OhMySailboat
Smash Rookie
What's a Down Smash???Nobody said Dsmash. =(
Not even me at my first post in this thread. Dsmash is one of the most important ROB Moves. I said Jab as a personal opinion, but i still prefer it =] I <3 Jab
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What's a Down Smash???Nobody said Dsmash. =(
Not even me at my first post in this thread. Dsmash is one of the most important ROB Moves. I said Jab as a personal opinion, but i still prefer it =] I <3 Jab
You're joking, right?What's a Down Smash???
You're joking, right?
In case you're not, in the standard controls push the Jellow Pillar of No-Skill down and you'll Dsmash. you can also do it by pressing the control stick down and A at the same time.
If there's something that helps u a lot, i think u should start using it. I know that it's good when u see that u r doing well something that nobody did before, but u'll probably find more difficulties. What i want to say is that it's better findind an easier way to win IMOI'm kinda trying not to use d-smash, kinda sandbagging, Kind OS' soulcrushing. Me and my best friend kinda try and develop our characters without "****" moves. i'm developing my ROB with out a TON of dsmash/ Nair/camping, but I can use them. He develops his pikachu without really abusing dsmash or thunder, so when we play against a tough opponent and we use those moves we feel better. xD And it's funny because I don't camp with my ROB; i'm more aggro, so when I camp even minimally people that play me often are like OMG SPAM! and I'm thinking "I'm not spamming, I just don't play conventional ROB", or if I use dsmash in a match more then I usually do they get really ticked off. Most of this is online though, I haven't played against anyone with any real skill down in FL. (I'm trying to meet w/ someone but its kinda tough)
What I guess I'm trying to say is to not use moves like dsmash if you don't have to- it helps you discover your character, and if you can get good without dsmash then it seems even MORE deadly when you do use it. My friend plays a beastly pikachu, and he doesn't abuse dmsmash or thunder, doesn't even know pikachu has CGs(I'm not planning on telling him +.+) and doesn't do QAC trixies either. So when he plays against someone really good, or someone who spams well he becomes even more deadly. I rarely camp on less I'm on Japes facing Snake, and the one time I really camped I was amazed. was on wifi with said pikachu(like- no lag) he had 2 lives with 80& and I had 1 with 40%. I started camping HARD, and I uthrowed him off the top of FD for his last stock. I had 180% and he had 160%. I was amazed.
If there's something that helps u a lot, i think u should start using it. I know that it's good when u see that u r doing well something that nobody did before, but u'll probably find more difficulties. What i want to say is that it's better findind an easier way to win IMO
And Dsmash is perfect OoS, for punishes, rack up good damage considering u wont keep it fresh for kills and it also put the opponent at a bad position(depending on the opponent) giving u juggle options.
I think u need to play against better people. I'm not criticizing ur opponents, but Dsmash is essential for ROB.I know its easier normally, but thats the POINT. But the point is If I can beat people with OUT
using Dsmash, then I can unleash it as a "secret weapon" when I need to. Kinda like training for boxing using a glove thats heavier then normal, so when you use normal gloves you feel lighter and faster.
I probably do. I'm not saying I don't use it, I just don't abuse it. I use it alright, my I try not to use it as my "main" move, if you get what i'm saying.I think u need to play against better people. I'm not criticizing ur opponents, but Dsmash is essential for ROB.
^ This.Well there's your problem. You should abuse it. Why? Dsmash isn't a viable kill move, and it is a great damage racker and punisher, so why the hell WOULDN'T you abuse it?
^ Exactly.to lure them into a false sense of security
and then POW
right in the kisser
This post is winWell there's your problem. You should abuse it. Why? Dsmash isn't a viable kill move, and it is a great damage racker and punisher, so why the hell WOULDN'T you abuse it?
I like you.it's more a versatility and style issue than anything.
I mean, if you can master another way of playing ROB, and have it available to switch to on the fly to confuse the opponent, isn't that good?
That's probably a better idea.Conditioning is where it's at. Don't 180 your style mid-match, change it subtly so they won't notice.
One of friends that plays link likes to spam the boomerang>arrow combo, and after a ******** amount of times him using I'm really good at dodging it. So he's in Fsmash kill % and I know it's coming so instead of dodging it and fsmashing him, if I'm going from aggro to campy use dsmash instead?Basically what you want to do is react the same exact way 70-90% of the time in a situation where you -could- hit with a kill move, but you hit with something else or purposefully put yourself in a position to get punished. Never put yourself in a position to get punished too badly, though. It's..hard to explain it in good detail because you have to do it differently for every person you fight and you tend to have to do it differently against each person you play too. Iunno, it's something you really have to learn.
What I said in the thing you quoted isn't actually conditioning, but the statement still holds. Subtle changes over stocks/a set is good on top of conditioning as well.
I get it. So like kinda randomly sandbag?Well, if you see an opportunity for a KO, take it. lol Conditioning will only work once for the instance you're conditioning against a good player. Getting a stock > conditioning. Conditioning is preparing someone to lose a stock, taking a stock is actually taking it, haha. However, if he's not at a kill percent, let it hit you every now and then. It won't be much damage, but it'll make him think it's a good option so he'll keep doing it till you're ready to kill him.
Yeah, Dthrow to Uair is better. I prefer to save my KO Moves to get kills, and Nair isn't really guaranteed. With Uair u'll at least get some hits(as u said), and if that hits make a down knockback, i Fast Fall > Dsmash.Besides Dsmash, I like to always Dthrow and then jump into Uair or Nair...mostly Uair because I always score a hit.
Spin that TOP!!! GyRO!
Uair- has down knockback?o.oYeah, Dthrow to Uair is better. I prefer to save my KO Moves to get kills, and Nair isn't really guaranteed. With Uair u'll at least get some hits(as u said), and if that hits make a down knockback, i Fast Fall > Dsmash.
U can aso perform Dsmash > Uair(Down knockback) > Fast Fall > Dsmash again at low %s.
Actually, it isn't a "down knockback". It just doesn't give much knockback, but it depends on the hits that hits ur opponent.Uair- has down knockback?o.o
Okay. If u-sair had down knockback it could open up a lot of possibilities. I think.Actually, it isn't a "down knockback". It just doesn't give much knockback, but it depends on the hits that hits ur opponent.
Not exactly. Do you play campy or aggro? If yo play aggro, then its good. Campy...Bair, I use it more frequently than my laser. I'm assuming that's a bad thing.
Especially if you Fast Fall. Dsmash(as I said on the other post) is an example or simpy shield and wait for what your opponent is going to do and try to punish him.Okay. If u-sair had down knockback it could open up a lot of possibilities. I think.