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What items should be added/cut from Brawl?

LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME

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more items are being added to each smash sequel, as well as a few being cut. new pokemon obtainable through pokeballs are being added, updated, & cut. which items do you think should stay, which should go, and what new items should be introduced? what pokeball pokemon should be introduced, updated, or cut?
I like the idea of ditto coming out of a pokeball, & transforming into the first thing it sees (or the closest object to it). it would pop out and see Link standing their. it would transform into link and fight with you until it gets ko'd! If it saw, lets say, a superscope, it would transform into a superscope, & could then be picked up for normal superscope use. when the superscope runs out, ditto would turn back to normal & turn into the next closest thing. or dissapear.
 

Granz

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What if there was nothing in it's range of vision?
Umm, it's good, but I doubt they would put ditto in...
Re-add the bumper, get rid of the cloaking device.
 

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if their was nothing in dittos range of vision, then ditto would just transform into the character who released it from the pokeball. i liked the bumper, but the cloaking device aint that bad, is it?
 

Granz

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The cloaking device just screws with the human characters. It doesn't do anything to CPU. So I vote they change the CPU, or get rid of the cloaking device.

And the ditto thing, what stops people from getting dittos all at once, while all have Iceclimbers, and it would jack up the game. I mean, even if it would only copy one of them, there would be 12 characters on screen at once. it would probably have serious complications, like screen lockups, glitches, etc.
Mostly becasue the character are all going to be updated. But if those problems aren't going to appear, then by all means, add ditto.
 

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i have noticed that when your cloaked, CPU's go right on attacking you, like your not even cloaked. i guess that i could live without it. although when facing humans, its CAN be kinda helpful, & at least you cant take damage when uder its influence.
 

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i like the idea the new smash emblems for each specific character, except kirby's seems kinda funky. i wish he had the mike instead...
 

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yah, i liked the bumper, but in large numbers it was a real pain!! i liked to get to bumpers, throw 1 behind my opponent, knock him onto it, then toss another in the direction he was geaded. sumtimes he would just keep on bouncing back & forth!lol
 

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Yes I agree, need the bumper back.

The ditto idea sounds really fun but should be toned down a bit. It would create too much chaos.

Also, I think the cloaking device hurts more than helps. You can't really see yourself and the CPU isnt affected at all. Get rid of it.
 

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I guess we can all agree we want the bumper back, 'cause I agree with you all. Replace flipper with bumper.

The sparring idea with Ditto is pretty cool, but I don't think it should stay until it's KO'd. Maybe after it executes an attack if it copies someone else, then disappears.
 

GaryCXJk

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How about some Animal Crossing based items. Like the shovel. Would be fun to hit everybody with a shovel. Or an axe. Maybe a fishing rod or a net, or maybe a watering can (WTF) or catapult.

I personally would love to see you throw with furniture. It starts off as a leaf, and when it hits the ground it pops up as an item. It wouldn't do damage, but it would knock your opponents far back. Also nice obstacle, were it not that if you hit it hard enough it would revert back into a leaf, making it disappear.
 

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Ami said:
I guess we can all agree we want the bumper back, 'cause I agree with you all. Replace flipper with bumper.

The sparring idea with Ditto is pretty cool, but I don't think it should stay until it's KO'd. Maybe after it executes an attack if it copies someone else, then disappears.
yah, you right about ditto. maybe i shouldnt have put it so extreme. maybe once he reaches a certain damage ratio, or like you said, after it attacks a few times. :laugh:
 

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i herd that in super mario world, mario used missiles to bash his foes...that might be a good item to use.if you no more about them, feel free to explain!
 

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I love the idea of the animal crossing furniture!!! Throwing a leaf and having it become a chair that sends your opponent flying. Brilliant!
 

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They should get rid of the Barrel Cannon. It does more harm than good. The poison mushroom is more useful than it.
 

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they should have an item that works like a pokeball, but the size of a crate! It would be be the animal buddy boxes from the donkey kong games. you would smash the crate (however you want to) and , lets say, rambi would pop out. rambi would run left or right (decided at random), turning around when he meets walls, until he finally falls of the stage. rambi would do the classic snort-while-ramming-enemy thing. Whats the ostridges name again? oh well, the ostridge would serve as a moving platform that you can jump on.the ostridge would run around the stage, turning around at edges for a short time. (around 40 seconds or so, don't you think?). squitters could jump around making new web platforms which would last as long as they did in the original DKC2 & DKC3. if you have any ideas for animal buddies, nows the time... :lick:
 

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I would love to see the Bumper from the first game to make a return and I would love to see the Four Sword added. Whenever a player picks it up, three CPU clones of that character appear and attack for you. :)
 

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i THINK THEIR SHOULD BE THE BLUE KOOPA SHELL FROM THE MARIO KART:dOUBLE DASH GAME. tHAT WOULD BE AWSOME. iT WOULD SEEK OUT A RANDOM PLAYER & HOME IN ON IT, WAIT ABOUT A SECOND, THEN COME CRASHING DOWN ON THE POOR VICTIM. THEIR WOULD BE A MEDIUM SIZED BLAST RADIUS, & IT WOULD DAMAGE WHOEVER GOT CAUGHT IN ITS BLAST.
 

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LIEK CAPS LOCK!!! Sorry, just had to.

Anways, about the Ditto thing, wasn't he supposed to be in SSBM? I mean I have the guidebook (Hey, come one, it was only $2-5 CDN with the game!), and he is listed under the 'Pokemon pokeball' section.
 

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^ The debug mode lists Metamon (AKA Ditto), but I haven't tried seeing what he does. I think for the idea of Ditto, he'll become a random onscreen character, but be really light, like in 1-P modes _____-teams. Also, get rid of either Togepi or Clefairy. Having two just makes it more likely that you'll wind up with a pokemon with an attack you can't read before it happens.



Also, touching Mew/Celebi as they fly away needs to do damage. They have no purpose except getting you a trophy, or a point boost in Bonus mode. And nobody plays Bonus mode.





And definately bring back the Bumpers. Bumpers >>>>>> Flippers.
 

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ditto is accesable though action replay. and whoever said that too many dittos=chaos, ditto wouldn't come out if another ditto was already present, the would-be second ditto would be a goldeen.
 

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I'd really like to see a banana peel in Brawl.

Honestly, how could you have a game with Donkey Kong and not have a banana peel?
If not for Donkey Kong, take it from Mario Kart.

It'd be cool to throw it on the ground and have any that steps on it 'spin-out'. :laugh:
 

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I like the idea of a bannana peel, & the thwomp idea. Although, maybe have the thwomp act more like bob-omb, in that it has a mind of its own. You would activate it by attacking it or by picking it up & throwing it (only heavy-weight characters could, since a thwomp is so jinormouse, lol) and then it would hang in the air like the flipper does. When a character gets to close, walks under neath OR jumps over it, it would come crashing down, doing massive damage to whatever it smashes. AT LEAST 20% damage. And i think it would do much more than that...
 

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Now hold on about the cloaking device. It may fit in with online play. Your character would fade only barely, but on the screen over the wireless connection would not show your character. It would make it so you are invisible, but YOU can still see you, but your online opponent could not...this is only for wireless play though...
 

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Maybe add the giga mushroom that make you twice as big as a super mushroom. (Same effect as when colleting a super mushroom in Giant Meele)
There was rumours a long time ago that there was a giga mushroom in Meele but there was'nt.
 

Master_Sheik

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I would love to see a few of the items from the Mario Kart series. Whoah, now that I think about it, almost all of the items are already SB. Pikachu and Pichu with the lightning bolt, the red and green shell as items, yoshi's egg, star, etc. Ok, scratch that idea, but how about the winged blue shell! Think red shell, except specifcally designed for air battles which seems to be more frequent in Brawl as compared to the preceeding titles. I would love to just nail Pit with one!
 

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I realllly hope they DON'T bring back the Bumper, it sucked, I hated it the most , out of all the items I probably won't play the game as much, if nintendo is stupid enough to put the ****ED UP BUMPER BACK IN
 

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1. Axe Flipper, add Bumper.
2. Bunny Hood - Only increases speed, not jump.
3. Super Scope - Needs to leave off the stun bullets. Nothing's more annoying than stopping for 10 seconds just to let one guy shoot his load.
4. Lip's Stick - Needs a bigger aura for the poison.
5. Food - Maybe two other types that subtract 10 to 25%. I think Grandma's Soup from Wind Waker would make a great candidate to heal 10% + increases your power until you get hit.

One thing we need to think about is that if Brawl is more aerially-oriented, we need more aerially-oriented items.

6. Space Jump - Gives you an extra jump of the height of your second jump.
7. P-Wing - Lets you air dodge without being stunned.
8. Cape - Let's you jump in a specific direction i.e. jumping down towards the ground will dive in that direction.
9. Winged Shell - Moves in a straight line if thrown from the air. Or, you could have it deliberately home in on an airborn opponent.

It would help if you could wield items like the Star Rod or Beam Sword in the air.

Two types of Pokemon
10. One that electrifies or lavafies the ground, forcing you airborn.
11. One that fills the air, forcing you to the ground.
 

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It would be cool if they put the pitfall item from from Animal Crossing in. Just seeing a character attempting to get out but just wiggling would be so awesome.The tranquilizer gun from MGS would be fun to shoot characters and put them to sleep. The lighting from Mario Kart would also be fun to make the other characters small.
 
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