applejack
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will that be taking a point from the guy who killed you and givng it to the guy who was killed? Then that is two points. One point wouldn't make that much difference unless they suicided.
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What items should be added/cut from Brawl?
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Chewbacca35
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They should have some of the masks from Majora's Mask.
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applejack
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True.
unless it shows up again and again.
could make a more interesting match.
how about an item from RE4? shotgun, grenade, gigante, villager, ah.....the possibilities.
unless it shows up again and again.
could make a more interesting match.
how about an item from RE4? shotgun, grenade, gigante, villager, ah.....the possibilities.
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Yah, their should be a limit on how many would apear, no matter what the item percentage is...(high, low, very high, noe, etc.)
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lets get more earthbound items...anyone else getting bored with mr. saturn?
also, the 1-up thing...in time mode, collecting it would get get u asmany points as u got from it in the original games...
also, the 1-up thing...in time mode, collecting it would get get u asmany points as u got from it in the original games...
Or not.This stuff has probly been said b4, but ditch the food and the star and the baseball bat. I don't use items anyway. On second thought, ditch em all!
Preferably, NOT.
REØ
Smash Lord
they could add more varieties of food, like maybe a hot pepper that tacks on 4% damage to your total or something like that.
Armygeddon Bomb
Smash Ace
I could live without the cloaking devise. All it can do is prevent damage, even to Pichu's electric attacks.
Dokuro
Smash Ace
hi
bring the bumper back.
for new item ideas, the SMB3 hammer would make a random part of the stage fall apart, the Tetris Attack garbage block would fall down on an opponent making them paralyzed, and the Donkey Kong banana would make people slip.
bring the bumper back.
for new item ideas, the SMB3 hammer would make a random part of the stage fall apart, the Tetris Attack garbage block would fall down on an opponent making them paralyzed, and the Donkey Kong banana would make people slip.
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what new pokemon do you think they'll add to brawl? To come out of pokeballs, of course...
The Basement Dweller
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The Nintendog should die before it's released.
jigglyppuff8
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Are You Crazy!!!? I usually win all of my matches being dependent on items. If there were no items I would be gone faster then you could taunt. Not that I'm saying that I'm that bad but still, the items help.This stuff has probly been said b4, but ditch the food and the star and the baseball bat. I don't use items anyway. On second thought, ditch em all!
So you should get good without using the items. Items are cheap, cheating ways to win that reflect in no way the actual skill of the players. They're sort of fun for just screwing around, but for serious competitive play? No way.
Let me guess: baseball bat and poke balls?
Let me guess: baseball bat and poke balls?
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iTEMS CAN BE USED STRATEGICALLY, but for the most part, you are right...still, i want items in brawl...
jigglyppuff8
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Don't we play video games to have fun? What's the point of a video game if it isn't fun? Without items, it would just basically be 1 person hitting another over and over again. Let's make it fun and whack someone with a hammer. If you don't want items, just turn on the item switch. Other than that, can we get back to the subject of what items should be added/cut from the new game.
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We're saying that items are great for fun, and when your screwing around with friends, or under special item "agreed" battles, but for real competitive smash, there's too much luck involved with them.
Item ideas, right.
1) Ragnel, Allundite, Durrandel, whatever, ledgendary weapons from Fire Emblem - Pick one up, and swing it around to cause massive destruction. I think that they should have respective magical elemental powers that run out, much like the star wand. So a player pickes up armads, and the first five times he swings it, a thunderbolt flies outta the axe. Then, it's just a huge swinging weapon.
2) Magic tomes from fire emblem - pick up a magic tome(book) then use it to summon a hail of fire, darkness, ice, thunder etc. that engulfs your enemies' area in fury.
3) Energy shield - while holding this item, your R/L shield is upgraded, and almost invulnerable.
4) Vulnerary/Elixer from FE - like food or tomato, exept you must use three times.
5) Double team - two illusiary copies poppes out of your fighter. Their attacks two half damage, so theres like three of you for a set time.
6) Boost - your character blows red, and the next attack that you deliver is incresed by 3x.
7) Teleporter - when this item is held, rolling is switched to instant warping.
8) Force field - when thrown, creates a cirlce of energy. Only the user can be inside, all others gets oushed out, and for 10 or so seconds, the user is safe within and able to throw projectiles outside.
9) RPG - pretty self explanatory
10) A beam cannon form metroid - so you get an arm cannon(if your Samus already, it actually changes your arm) to hold that has a special weapon like the plasma beam.
11) Earthquake - throw an this item at the ground to have all enemies on the ground knocked up, like as if the whole stage got DK hand slapped.
12) Plasma gernade form halo(just kidding, but that WOULD be fun)
But how about sticky boboms, that would be fun.
13) Poison jar - a purple dark jar that when broken releases poison onto the target, inflicting damage over time.
14) Gamecube - a rare throwing item that does considerable damge
15) wii-mote - turns into a different weapon once aquired depening on who has it. If link has it, it turns into the master sword(stronger, obviously) if Smaus has it, it's the power beam, if mario has it, it's ... gee, i don't know.
Item ideas, right.
1) Ragnel, Allundite, Durrandel, whatever, ledgendary weapons from Fire Emblem - Pick one up, and swing it around to cause massive destruction. I think that they should have respective magical elemental powers that run out, much like the star wand. So a player pickes up armads, and the first five times he swings it, a thunderbolt flies outta the axe. Then, it's just a huge swinging weapon.
2) Magic tomes from fire emblem - pick up a magic tome(book) then use it to summon a hail of fire, darkness, ice, thunder etc. that engulfs your enemies' area in fury.
3) Energy shield - while holding this item, your R/L shield is upgraded, and almost invulnerable.
4) Vulnerary/Elixer from FE - like food or tomato, exept you must use three times.
5) Double team - two illusiary copies poppes out of your fighter. Their attacks two half damage, so theres like three of you for a set time.
6) Boost - your character blows red, and the next attack that you deliver is incresed by 3x.
7) Teleporter - when this item is held, rolling is switched to instant warping.
8) Force field - when thrown, creates a cirlce of energy. Only the user can be inside, all others gets oushed out, and for 10 or so seconds, the user is safe within and able to throw projectiles outside.
9) RPG - pretty self explanatory
10) A beam cannon form metroid - so you get an arm cannon(if your Samus already, it actually changes your arm) to hold that has a special weapon like the plasma beam.
11) Earthquake - throw an this item at the ground to have all enemies on the ground knocked up, like as if the whole stage got DK hand slapped.
12) Plasma gernade form halo(just kidding, but that WOULD be fun)
But how about sticky boboms, that would be fun.
13) Poison jar - a purple dark jar that when broken releases poison onto the target, inflicting damage over time.
14) Gamecube - a rare throwing item that does considerable damge
15) wii-mote - turns into a different weapon once aquired depening on who has it. If link has it, it turns into the master sword(stronger, obviously) if Smaus has it, it's the power beam, if mario has it, it's ... gee, i don't know.
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Mario could...um...turn into "Raccoon Mario", I guess...or something...
Here are some item ideas
Pitfall:Through this like a Motion sensor bomb, and when foes walk over it, they fall in and are stuned. You can walk slowly over it so you wont fall in.
Stylus:A weapon that when you swipe it leaves a line that will hurt foes who touch it. Deafinatly deadly in Mewtwos hands.
Vulnerary: Restors 20HP
Spiney Shell: Homes in on the character who is winning. If two are tied, it does it randomly. If the user is winning, then it can go for him(if theres a tie, otherwise it will go for the user
1-up Mushroom: Gives the player an extra stock. Only in Stock matches
Mic: When grabed, dmages all opponents
Bullet Bill Cannon: Fires Bullet Bills that explode. Only 3(May also be a Homing Launcher for a Starfox item)
TNT Barrel: Barrle that always explodes
Pitfall:Through this like a Motion sensor bomb, and when foes walk over it, they fall in and are stuned. You can walk slowly over it so you wont fall in.
Stylus:A weapon that when you swipe it leaves a line that will hurt foes who touch it. Deafinatly deadly in Mewtwos hands.
Vulnerary: Restors 20HP
Spiney Shell: Homes in on the character who is winning. If two are tied, it does it randomly. If the user is winning, then it can go for him(if theres a tie, otherwise it will go for the user
1-up Mushroom: Gives the player an extra stock. Only in Stock matches
Mic: When grabed, dmages all opponents
Bullet Bill Cannon: Fires Bullet Bills that explode. Only 3(May also be a Homing Launcher for a Starfox item)
TNT Barrel: Barrle that always explodes
jigglyppuff8
Smash Lord
What if Mario/Luigi got the wii-mote and it turned into a pow block? The pokemon would get a random berry that could be hurled at an enemy or itself and heal or give damage depending on the berry, Kirby would turn into fire Kirby, and Donkey Kong would get a coconut he can throw to cause major damage.
Ac35Full701
Smash Apprentice
Now you guys are just coming up with random items that would make players invincible or make kills much too quick.
The 1-up mushroom? No offense SmashChu but that's like deciding the match with one item.
The items they add will be equally as fun and equally as pointless as some from the Melee version. Either way, items aren't used competitively so most people don't like him/have no affinity toward them anyway.
The 1-up mushroom? No offense SmashChu but that's like deciding the match with one item.
The items they add will be equally as fun and equally as pointless as some from the Melee version. Either way, items aren't used competitively so most people don't like him/have no affinity toward them anyway.
Ac35Full701
Smash Apprentice
EDIT: My stupid Edit button doesnt work..in all seriousness. It's been swirling that image for like 5 minutes and I have high-speed, fast comp, etc.
Why don't we just have a Michael Jackson doll that comes out of the screen and finds unsuspecting children for whatever reasons his twisted heart desires!
Yayyy to old has-beens who want attention through the art of child-loving!
Why don't we just have a Michael Jackson doll that comes out of the screen and finds unsuspecting children for whatever reasons his twisted heart desires!
Yayyy to old has-beens who want attention through the art of child-loving!
shinehex
Smash Lord
I'm liking all the creatve ideas...except for the M. Jackson one.
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You know, I am with you on that one...
Caleb Wolfbrand
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I want the newer legendary pokemon like Rayquaza to come out of Pokeballs for sure. And Diamond/Pearl ones too, not like I know their names or anything.
Bumper from 64.
Cracked Bat from Earthbound. Basically a crappy bat that breaks in one hit, sorta a downside like when the hammer flies off the handle on Melee. On the plus side I was thinking maybe the bat's smash or something could break invincibility... would be interesting.
I want poison mushrooms to be blue.
Luigi's Vaccum and/or Mario's water jet thing from Sunshine.
Make the ray gun chargable or something, it's so boring.
I really want Magikarp to come out of the pokeball and flop around instead of goldeen, and you can hit him, and whoever hits him he evolves into Garydos and pwns your *** with a hyper beam... :D
Bumper from 64.
Cracked Bat from Earthbound. Basically a crappy bat that breaks in one hit, sorta a downside like when the hammer flies off the handle on Melee. On the plus side I was thinking maybe the bat's smash or something could break invincibility... would be interesting.
I want poison mushrooms to be blue.
Luigi's Vaccum and/or Mario's water jet thing from Sunshine.
Make the ray gun chargable or something, it's so boring.
I really want Magikarp to come out of the pokeball and flop around instead of goldeen, and you can hit him, and whoever hits him he evolves into Garydos and pwns your *** with a hyper beam... :D
jigglyppuff8
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Actually, I like the idea of magicarp evolving. Or, maybe you can pick him up and throw him, since he is rock-solid. After taking a severe beating from everyone throwing him around, he MIGHT evolve, and throw a giant rage and tear up anyone who gets in his way! As you said, hyper beam...
Bakemonky
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All of this is posted on another thread, but more people seem to be talking here, so here ya go. NONE of these ideas are mine, only the ideas on how they work. Props to shadenexus18. See the rest of his stuff here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1917012#post1917012
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Spiked Blue Turtle Shell w/wings (Mario Kart Double Dash)
Really good idea. Just like in Mario Kart, when you throw it, it auto locks on whoever is in first place, and blows up on top of them. The script for determining who is in first place is already in the game, as it shows on the big board on Pokemon Stadium. All they need to do is add a parameter that searches for % in the case that both players (or all 4) have the same number of lives left, finds the lowest %, and BOOM
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Chaff Grenades (Metal Gear Soild; Brawl use...to daze opponents)
It's weird... There are no stun items in Melee. They may be a bit overpowered, but no one in tournaments uses items anyway, so who cares? But a stun or daze item would be awesome.
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Golden Gauntlets (Ocarina of Time)
THIS WOULD BE COOL. Once you pick up the gauntlets, your moves would hit incredibly hard. I really hope that this item makes it in, and it should, since it's been in more than one Zelda game. Already I can see me picking up the gauntlets, then getting a super mushroom, and doing a Falcon Punch on Jigglypuff, just to see how far he flies.
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Lighting Bolt ( Mario Kart Double Dash)
neat. There should be awesome hit everyone items, and this one would be cool. Im not sure if it should shrink everyone, as that might be a bit overpowered, but a quick jolt from the sky hitting everyone would be pretty cool.
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Chaos Emeralds (Sonic/ Sega licensed I know)
This is a good idea, but what would the chaos emerald do? In the cartoon for Sonic, when he grabbed a ring, Sonic became incredibly fast(er). So instead of the chaos emerald, since they really dont do anything unless you have all of them, put in a ring. When a character grabs a ring, his or her run speed is amplified.
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POW box (Super Mario Bros. 2& 3)
AWESOME. Just like the lightning bolt, this would knock every enemy down. It wouldn't be overpowered, either, since just like in every Mario game with the POW box, if a character is in the air, he or she is unaffected by the POW box.
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Transcendant Wings (Kid Icarus)
This just seems like a cool idea. Maybe every character is then able to do 4 to 6 minor jumps instead of their normal 2?
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Wii Nunchaku
Im sure either the wii-mote or the nunchaku will make it as an item. I have no idea what they will do, but they should be in.
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Mirror Shield (A Link to the Past)
Really good idea. A character could pick it up and hold it like Link holds his Hylian Shield, and when you attack, you hit them with the shield, similar to the sword or bat, but when you BLOCK with it, they hold the shield out and can redirect any projectile. Really good idea.
You've got some awesome ideas. These are the ones I thought were cool, and you really had none that I didn't like. Cool.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1917012#post1917012
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Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Spiked Blue Turtle Shell w/wings (Mario Kart Double Dash)
Really good idea. Just like in Mario Kart, when you throw it, it auto locks on whoever is in first place, and blows up on top of them. The script for determining who is in first place is already in the game, as it shows on the big board on Pokemon Stadium. All they need to do is add a parameter that searches for % in the case that both players (or all 4) have the same number of lives left, finds the lowest %, and BOOM
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Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Chaff Grenades (Metal Gear Soild; Brawl use...to daze opponents)
It's weird... There are no stun items in Melee. They may be a bit overpowered, but no one in tournaments uses items anyway, so who cares? But a stun or daze item would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Golden Gauntlets (Ocarina of Time)
THIS WOULD BE COOL. Once you pick up the gauntlets, your moves would hit incredibly hard. I really hope that this item makes it in, and it should, since it's been in more than one Zelda game. Already I can see me picking up the gauntlets, then getting a super mushroom, and doing a Falcon Punch on Jigglypuff, just to see how far he flies.
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Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Lighting Bolt ( Mario Kart Double Dash)
neat. There should be awesome hit everyone items, and this one would be cool. Im not sure if it should shrink everyone, as that might be a bit overpowered, but a quick jolt from the sky hitting everyone would be pretty cool.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Chaos Emeralds (Sonic/ Sega licensed I know)
This is a good idea, but what would the chaos emerald do? In the cartoon for Sonic, when he grabbed a ring, Sonic became incredibly fast(er). So instead of the chaos emerald, since they really dont do anything unless you have all of them, put in a ring. When a character grabs a ring, his or her run speed is amplified.
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Originally Posted by shadenexus18
POW box (Super Mario Bros. 2& 3)
AWESOME. Just like the lightning bolt, this would knock every enemy down. It wouldn't be overpowered, either, since just like in every Mario game with the POW box, if a character is in the air, he or she is unaffected by the POW box.
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Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Transcendant Wings (Kid Icarus)
This just seems like a cool idea. Maybe every character is then able to do 4 to 6 minor jumps instead of their normal 2?
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Wii Nunchaku
Im sure either the wii-mote or the nunchaku will make it as an item. I have no idea what they will do, but they should be in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadenexus18
Mirror Shield (A Link to the Past)
Really good idea. A character could pick it up and hold it like Link holds his Hylian Shield, and when you attack, you hit them with the shield, similar to the sword or bat, but when you BLOCK with it, they hold the shield out and can redirect any projectile. Really good idea.
You've got some awesome ideas. These are the ones I thought were cool, and you really had none that I didn't like. Cool.
T-major
Smash Champion
the only Item that absolutly needs to be added is the POW! block. I dont know why it was in melee. this item is 100% nedded if they want to represent Nintendo right.
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Yah, the POW block was awsome in SSB on the one stage they had it on...would it appear randomly in the air? Like, each level would have predetermined spots it could appear at, and then it would appear in one of those spots randomly every once in a while. Should players ve able to pick it up or stand on it like in the very first mario bros. game? You know, the one they have as a bonus in the Super mario bros. 3 games and such for GBA...or would they only be able to attack it?
T-major
Smash Champion
you should be able to pick it up and throw it. if it hits some one, they take damage (15% to 20% damage give or take), or it could do little damage, but have high knock-back. maybe they could make it stun people that it hits. it would be like in the classic Mario game, and would add a stun effect item.
jigglyppuff8
Smash Lord
Yeah bring back the pow block! We all need it back, just like the bumper.
The_Corax_King
Smash Lord
shadenexus18
Smash Master
Thanks a million Bakemonky! (whenever I get the chance I'll add to you R.E.P!) but anyway, lose da paper fan, no one's going to miss it!
experiment111
Smash Journeyman
O DEAR GOD HOW I HATE THAT FAN!!!!
Also cloak is absolutely pointless
Also cloak is absolutely pointless
FlipTroopa
Smash Lord
Just a quickie I did of some item ideas I had...
Enjoy
Enjoy
Snafu
Smash Cadet
Summarising the vast majority of item changes I wish to see in SSBB (Most, if not all, have been said, but bear with me).
-DROP-
Get rid of the flipper. No ifs, no buts.
Also, for Pokemon, drop Togepi's Nightshade - we already have a Nintendog to block our view.
-CHANGE-
Have the cloaking device in WiFi only, only making you disappear on opponents' screens. That way you get the benefit of your opponents not being able to see you whilst you can still get up to mischief (Charging up a Falcon Punch for some unsuspecting sucker... I mean victim... I mean... player, for example).
Have food give back varying amounts of health (maybe promote healthy eating by having healthy foods give more? Then Ninty have given us exercise - playing Wii Sports - and diet advice!).
Have more of the powerful items with weaknesses, like the breaking baseball bat
-ADD-
Empty Pokeballs - Instead of a pokemon popping out, this captures a hit opponent temporarily, or does nothing if it hits the floor.
Bumper back.
Deku Nut - Throw at an opponent, stuns them for a second (like if their shield had broken, but shorter).
Mega Mushroom from NSMB - Like a Super Mushroom in Giant Melee.
Banana Peel - Just like any Mario Kart game, place it and wait for someone to slip on it.
Also, though I'm not sure what could do it, an item that messes with gravity would be fun. It could turn the gravity up, as though all the characters were metal, or down like on the Battlefield stage in Melee. Any ideas for that one?
-DROP-
Get rid of the flipper. No ifs, no buts.
Also, for Pokemon, drop Togepi's Nightshade - we already have a Nintendog to block our view.
-CHANGE-
Have the cloaking device in WiFi only, only making you disappear on opponents' screens. That way you get the benefit of your opponents not being able to see you whilst you can still get up to mischief (Charging up a Falcon Punch for some unsuspecting sucker... I mean victim... I mean... player, for example).
Have food give back varying amounts of health (maybe promote healthy eating by having healthy foods give more? Then Ninty have given us exercise - playing Wii Sports - and diet advice!).
Have more of the powerful items with weaknesses, like the breaking baseball bat
-ADD-
Empty Pokeballs - Instead of a pokemon popping out, this captures a hit opponent temporarily, or does nothing if it hits the floor.
Bumper back.
Deku Nut - Throw at an opponent, stuns them for a second (like if their shield had broken, but shorter).
Mega Mushroom from NSMB - Like a Super Mushroom in Giant Melee.
Banana Peel - Just like any Mario Kart game, place it and wait for someone to slip on it.
Also, though I'm not sure what could do it, an item that messes with gravity would be fun. It could turn the gravity up, as though all the characters were metal, or down like on the Battlefield stage in Melee. Any ideas for that one?
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i think that pokemon that they put in super smash brothers and melee should actually do something this time.... i dont know anything about pokemon but im talking about that fish that just flops around.... also i like the cloaking device, although computers and all may still hit you... you dont take any damage which is real nice and leaves you a good oportunity to hurt them.
marthsword
Smash Ace
I love those items you drew, but they still won't be used in tourneys.