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What items should be added/cut from Brawl?

Wet Fish KO

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lol i like the idea of ditto coming out of the pokéball and transforming into the nearest player or item it sees. but wouldnt it be cool if it transformed into another pokémon that was already on the stage and started fighting on your behalf!
so...some items that should be cut...
the most anoying item in SSBM is that god dam Mr Saturn!! it anoys me so much and when ur on adventure mode fighting the 3 ness, all that they go for is f*ing Mr Saturn! (sorry for swearing) Mr saturn just has to go!
all the rest are fine, but if i had to chose a few more items to be cut they would be..
the fan and that red thing that spins in the air.
some items to be added..
another version of fox's gun would be pretty good i think.
a water bomb-bomb?
oh well, i cant think of anymore but please feel free to post more ideas of what items you think should be added.
 

notftomearth7

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What if there was nothing in it's range of vision?
Umm, it's good, but I doubt they would put ditto in...
Re-add the bumper, get rid of the cloaking device.
What he said + more

Chaos Emeralds could be added in considered that Sonic being in Brawl isn't sounding so crazy anymore (I haven't played any of the Sonic games, so for specifics ask someone else)
1-up Mushroom

Bowling Ball- With Wii Sports being so popular, it'd be cool just to roll it across the stage and get three KOs at once.


Also, get rid of the freaking umbrella, the Barrel Cannon and The Bunny Hood because they're all real cheap and stupid items. They should also get rid of the stat enhancers such as the Bunny Hood
 

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I really like the idea of the "rare" throwable Gamecube item. That would be a cool little Nintendo style adition. Like Nintendo saying "Throw the gamecubes at people, you have a Wii now my children" I hope they thought of an idea like that...
 

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Crocodile Cap!
Effect: Whenever you run, jump, shoot projectiles, or just plain move the hat jiggles around comicly.
Actual benifit in gameplay: none

Snake would be proud. =]
 

Numbuh 214

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Whoa there, darktiamat47; don't knock the food. It should be only available in Party Balls, though.
 

Sailus

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Drop these items:
Cloak
"Food"
Flipper

Improve these items:
Fire Flower
Motion Sensor Bomb (Less detectable)
Ray Gun (Reformat it to the n64 style. Faster, stronger =P)
Hammer. Make it stronger/longer. It's not as fearsome as in n64.

Add these items:
Biggoron Sword (OoT anyone? =P)
BUMPER! BEST ITEM EVER
Mario's Waterpack (On ground, shoots water. In air, hovers temp.)
Ninja Stars
Temporary Deployable Walls
Whip (Not laser, like samus's. Just a good ol' fashion leather whip =P)
Folded Chair, to beat people like in wrestling.
 

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I would like it if they got rid of the boxes and barrels. Or make them a separate item. I mean when I put bomb-ombs and pokebalss in I do not want boxes.
 

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I want some of the nearly useless pokemon to appear alot less. I did a test with 10 pokeballs, 4 of them were Chikaritas, 2 were Goldeens, 2 were Wobbofutt, 1 Charizard, and 1 Venisaur. Not a very good hand if you aske me. I want Mew to actually do something, besides floating. It would be awesome if he just let out this awesome physchic attack.
 

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I think mr.freezie should stay and they need to take the cloak out its a dumb item.
I don't neccessaraly agree. 4 online it would be awsome were u c ur self normally while ur opponent does not....I still don't ge y ppl h8 the bumper, it neat, fi u have like 6 of them :laugh: . They need the bumper back in without removing the flipper; they just need more items...period. If u don't like the item, turn it off ppl (i acutally really good with cloaking device by memorizing movement and trickin my real enemies. Still it needs to confuse the bots as well, and any masterful player would master using the cloaking device and keeping up with ur invinsible movement :cool: ). They might as well just keep al lthe items, and make it more customizable with items (ex Hammer with breaking head as a actual item option, breaking home run bat, etc.), and more features. Also on the pokeball item, they should make it customizable wat pokemon can come out or not, much like the item screen (i love tons of options, lol). This is the type of stuff BRAWL needs to go above and beyond any expectations...even my maximum expectations (crazy high :laugh: )!
 

mario-man

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I think it would be sweet to see yourself, but nobody else could see you. That's the only reason that I would like it to stay in Brawl.
 

LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME

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hmmm..........thats pretty much the only reason it should...unless the computers get tweaked into not knowing where u are in single player/ multi gainst Comps...
 

DragoKnight

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If they'd tweak the computers to have difficulty with the cloak, it sure should be better than the computer's proximity mine AI... Why is it they can see an invisible opponent but not a mine thrown right in front of them?

As far as the Pokeball goes, I liked the idea that sometimes you got a dud Goldeen, but I would like to see it go a step further with a Pokemon that actually attacks the player that wielded it; I can just picture the hilarity of someone throwing down a Pokeball, then running like a hoon to get away from the treacherous 'mon they just released. Or if not one that specifically targets the wielder, then one that simply goes after the nearest player.
It's been suggested before, but a Pokemon that randomly switches the places of every user could work. Or one that temporarily swaps the character you're using. That'd be funny. :lol:

I also thought it might be neat to have the hammer suit from SMB3 as an item; obviously gives you the ability to throw hammers, but also whenever you duck the 'shell' part of the suit would protect you from projectiles. Maybe even deflects them.

I expect to see at least one Star Fox item... maybe the grenades from Assault? That'd be fun to chuck into a group of people.
 

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Lol I hope Snakes box is an item. I hope they return the bumper returns without taking out the flipper. They both awsome items. Plus keep/return all other Melee and SSB 64 items.

A sword should be a weapon, along with the beam sword, and the breaking hammer should be it's own slot, along with explosive barrels.

Pokeballs hopefully will have over 50 (lMelee=over 35) pokemon, and have a customizable list of which pokemon appear, and which ones don't, to cut/keep the ones you love/hate!

Hopefully we get the gun japan got that we didn't, and they get the one North America and Europe got that Japan didn't get. Another new sword, and a gernade would be nice! More explosives, hehe!

I also think the Heart Container should restore all damage like in SSB 64 as oppose to 100% in Melee, and the Maxima Tomato restore 100% as in SSB 64, as oppose to 50% in Melee. They should make like a peice of a heart restore 50% damage, or something like that, and Brawl should have more healing items like these and food.

Plus, theyy should make random character appearances (goomba, koopa troopa, likelike, octorks) as items (eat my goomba boswer!). These items would be nice, plus maybe a rocket launcher and gernade launcher (not to the extent where you can't tell if your playing gears of war or supeer smash bros Brawl, lol).

Hopefully Brawl adds more customablization, options, etc that SSB 64 and Melee didn't have. Lots of options own! More options makes more players happy! I like the random course select option; the little stuff like that can really make a game a lot better!
 

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well you could say that the box could act as a shield better yet if Sonic does appear, I would like to see sonic's bubble shield appear unlike the one from melee, this shield would not disappear until it takes enough damage
Exactly what I meant! Also it would be random to throw it! A smoke gernade would also own! Plus maybe a mega/ultra mushroom and mega/ultra mini mushroom! it would be 5 times as rare as a hear container! Giga mushrooms and mini mushrooms would be neat, and would be like 10 times rarer than Heart Containers! How cool would it be to fight Giga Bowser as the same size as him? Make a recreation of Godzilla vs. King (or Donkey) Kong, now 2x as large!

Also a poision mushrrom would be neat: it could do like 10 damage to you, make you immobolized for 5 seconds, or until hit, and makes you run slower for maybe 30 seconds to a minute. Really rare though!

I also think customizing item ratios (like the off, very low, low, medium, high, ver high option) would be neat, but also customizable for each item and pokeball pokemon individually, rather than overall with every item you choose! Who doesn't want this, or more special Melee/battle types (Stamina lives would own!)

I'm gonna laugh if Snake's box is his shield instead of an item or attack, lol. It is confirmed that you can use it in SSBB, we just aren't 100% sure how!:laugh:
 

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Double post, Don't Read! My Bad!

well you could say that the box could act as a shield better yet if Sonic does appear, I would like to see sonic's bubble shield appear unlike the one from melee, this shield would not disappear until it takes enough damage
Exactly what I meant! Also it would be random to throw it! A smoke gernade would also own! Plus maybe a mega/ultra mushroom and mega/ultra mini mushroom! it would be 5 times as rare as a hear container! Giga mushrooms and mini mushrooms would be neat, and would be like 10 times rarer than Heart Containers! How cool would it be to fight Giga Bowser as the same size as him? Make a recreation of Godzilla vs. King (or Donkey) Kong, now 2x as large!

Also a poision mushrrom would be neat: it could do like 10 damage to you, make you immobolized for 5 seconds, or until hit, and makes you run slower for maybe 30 seconds to a minute. Really rare though!

I also think customizing item ratios (like the off, very low, low, medium, high, ver high option) would be neat, but also customizable for each item and pokeball pokemon individually, rather than overall with every item you choose! Who doesn't want this, or more special Melee/battle types (Stamina lives would own!)

I'm gonna laugh if Snake's box is his shield instead of being an item or attack, lol. It is confirmed that you can use it in SSBB, we just aren't 100% sure how!:laugh:
 

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I highly doubt this, but it would still be cool though.

Four Sword. When you pick this item up, it grants you the power to make you into four. all four use the exact same moves, but limits certain moves.
 

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Exellent Idea!

I highly doubt this, but it would still be cool though.

Four Sword. When you pick this item up, it grants you the power to make you into four. all four use the exact same moves, but limits certain moves.
That would be sweet! Awsome idea!

Another awsome idea is Pickory/Four Swords Link, but I doubt that! 4 Links=4 times the pain! As an item or character that would own! Exellent idea!:)
 

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How about they cut poke'balls and add digimon!
Ok, nvrmnd, that's not even funny. I was hoping for blue or yellow shells like from some snes marioz
Wat would a yellow shell do? I remeber wat the blue shell did, but I don't remember wat the yellow shell did.

Imagine if you can hide in a barell or Snake's box like a item lol! Especially if someone throws it, that would be a hilarious addition, that could add some damage avoiding and some randomness to a random series.

Plus I guess it could be used as a shield sorta, but throwing someone in a barell would be funny! Despite this, it should be customizable along with a breaking hammer, and hopefully which Pokemon that come out of Pokeballs. More customization=more fun and control!:) :) :)
 

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maybe they should have the double clawshots then u could grab to people at once

ure up throw would be smashing them together above you

ure down throw would be smashing them both into the earth

ure backthow would be spinning around and throwing them back(maybe smashing into each other

and the front throw just tossing them forward

or when u grab one just keep clawing with the other one wit a
 

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I would love to see DK bongos as an item(paralzizes everyone), and also a blue shell (targets the person with the lowest taken damage). I think they should take out the cloaking device.
 

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i think they need some kirby enymies because they hhave octorocks and stuff but i think they need somthing like a umm.. the old ssbm game disk! lol it would be trash so just thhrow it!!! just kidding... but i had a thought you know the motion censor bomb? and the cloaking device? and the "will pit ever fight again"? thing? he is hinting about brawl! ever notice??? i noticed that all the stuff about brawl is sorta linked to the trophies! like the c4 or motion sencor is from metal gear solid, right? well, so is the cloaking device!!!....anyways, i think the trophies should be thrown too sounds kinda cool but what aboutlegend of zelda items? i don''t think any items need to be taken away or characters, i think that we should keep everything that melee had don't ya think? because why take away anything? you can just not use the item and turn my head hurtsit off or not use a character (WTF?!?!?!) but another thing is i think mario's feather should give wings on the opponent's head to make them float and make the character able to use arials better... don't you think?... ok i'm done now ( and tired of thinking and my head hurts)
 
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I dont think that the cloaking device is any good. Because if you didnt choose to play under your name before you started, it would totally screw you up. AND besides, the Computer Players can still see you. So they should either fix the Computer Players, or just take out the cloaking device completely.

And I think the power of the home-run bat is too powerful....Even if your health is 0% it can still send you flying into a KO.

An item I would like to see in SSBB is a detonation mine... when someone goes near your bomb, you press a button and it explodes... Therefore you cant walk into your own mines like with a motion sensor bomb if you forget you threw it (like i always do lol)
 

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man i like the cloaking device, and well, hate that ditto aidea, and u know what i hate? the thing that theres gonna be a dog hitting the sscreen and dont letting u see whats happening, i wish u can cancel it like with an option. I wont like the dog there..
 

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Infinite jumps wouldn't be TOO bad-as long as it didn't last forever, only 30 seconds or so--therefore, if someone is hiding under stage to stall...he'll fall to his doom eventually. Maybe, perhaps, a jump extender? As in, you get longer jumps, or you get a few more jumps?

And...you can cancel the dog hitting the screen...in the item switch option. The nintedog is an item, and is activated by an onscreen item, its not just something that happens without any reasn. And all that has to happen to make cloaking devices great is the AI's reworked a bit (that may not have made sense, I couldn't think of a way to word it, sorry lol) so they can't see you when cloaked-but seriously, I think that LV 9's should still chase you when cloaked. 9's are supposed to be hard as hell, so they should not be changed-but should be smarter...(walking straight into mine=deedeedee)
 
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