I am not apart of this argument but I believe you two are off in your argument. making you both right technically speaking.
Tero's saying being consistent meaning doing all your technical stuff(when it counts) without messing up or missing cancels which lead to you being punished is extremely difficult to do consistently (100% of the time). Not saying he's hard to have success with at a high level. Just that he is hard to perfect and take to a high level compared to everyone else in top/high.
You on the other hand are saying that of the hardest to play at a high level are Falcon/Marth. I don't think you mean play consistent with. You are saying based on what they have vs everyone else it is the most difficult for them to compete with at the higher levels. However you seemingly are talking in terms of skill level not technical consistency.
For example Sheik, Fox, Falco, Puff(when mastered enough) Have a easier time vs top characters then Marth/Falcon. Which is true
In terms of difficulty Perfecting a character that can play consistent. Out of Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth, Puff. Fox is the hardest it's true.
So if I'm right(not sure I am) Then both of you are right but just misunderstanding each other.
Kind of. If he is talking about only technically, then yeah, we are talking about different things. But as far as answering the question "who is the hardest to play at a high level?", I think Marth and Falcon are the clear answers; they require a ton of precision, each have hurdles that are incredibly hard to overcome (Marth's lack of a kill move and Falcon's lack of a solid approach), and each require very detailed matchup, %, and DI knowledge that characters like Fox and, to a lesser extent, Falco don't really need.
Plus there are factors like Fox's easy to perform edgeguarding (grab the ledge and bair! against every character in the game! shine if you're sexy), his simplistic approach (nair, shine, or grab and thats it), and how much shine covers mistakes, and its pretty hard to believe hes the hardest character to play. Not to say that he is easy; every character is **** hard to play in this game, but just that there is a reason why everyone has a pocket Fox. I mean ****, Falcon has to bait directly outside of exact ranges with aerials (see: Hax$). Marth does a similar thing with his DD grab. Fox doesn't have any spacing concepts that are nearly that hard to perform.
I don't think I am qualified to really tell who is hardest/easiest though. Not like I have a high-level Marth, Falcon, and Fox so I could tell you definitively...I am just telling you what I have heard a ton of players much better than me say.
