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Well that's what I would assume but they don't show on his arbitrary pie chart so they must not exist.
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What has our beloved Smashboards become?
- Thread starter Cinder
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Kinzer
Mammy
Well this blog was kind of a joke... and yet serious at the same time because he brought up a point, as well as the mods, which I honestly did not expect to see in the user blogs.
Okay, now that I got my clowning tone out of the way I'll actually say something.
The moderation from what I can see is actually okay. Before points were permanent I really had little reason to follow the rules, other than save myself the nuisance of not being able to freaking post. But hey I was/still am a patient guy so that didn't really trouble me. Still that alone kept/keeps me from going apes***.
I have a purpose here, and that is to share information/collaborate with other people on other things, depending on what sub-forum I could be in. As long as cool people are here to make this place all the worthwhile, I need to try to keep my ability to post, so I always make d*** sure that if my post is small, my sig is disabled. If I'm going to make a one-liner post (I'm guilty of quite a few as of the latest global rules), I always make it clever/answer/(reply to) a previous post/on-topic, because I dare not make a post that is boring and simply says "^^yes/no/lol/*whatever*10char."
As long as you follow guidelines, I'm sure no mod is going to punish you for being a little bit creative (maybe), and other than having me fear the simple infractions that can easily build-up, the moderation is fine (heck that is probably their job to make me scared of breaking the rules anyway).
Okay, now that I got my clowning tone out of the way I'll actually say something.
The moderation from what I can see is actually okay. Before points were permanent I really had little reason to follow the rules, other than save myself the nuisance of not being able to freaking post. But hey I was/still am a patient guy so that didn't really trouble me. Still that alone kept/keeps me from going apes***.
I have a purpose here, and that is to share information/collaborate with other people on other things, depending on what sub-forum I could be in. As long as cool people are here to make this place all the worthwhile, I need to try to keep my ability to post, so I always make d*** sure that if my post is small, my sig is disabled. If I'm going to make a one-liner post (I'm guilty of quite a few as of the latest global rules), I always make it clever/answer/(reply to) a previous post/on-topic, because I dare not make a post that is boring and simply says "^^yes/no/lol/*whatever*10char."
As long as you follow guidelines, I'm sure no mod is going to punish you for being a little bit creative (maybe), and other than having me fear the simple infractions that can easily build-up, the moderation is fine (heck that is probably their job to make me scared of breaking the rules anyway).
Most (if not all) of the Admins have been here for 5+ years, at least. Most of the mods are relatively recent, and I don't recognize a lot of them. There's what, 70+ people on the staff now? Don't assume that we're a tight clique who's going to ignore you. We're as fair as we can possibly be.
And honestly Kinzer, most of us probably wouldn't have posted here if people weren't saying we were incompetent. It's peoples' right to have opinions about how we run things, but considering this is a volunteer service and pretty much every single thing we do gets bashed, you can see how we might get defensive if someone calls us incompetent.
Kinzer
Mammy
Well just know that your work isn't unappreciated by everybody all the time!
...*goes ahead and post sig anyway since it has Sonic giving you a thumbs up just to make my clarification post all that more assuring/awesome.*
Edit: ...Oh so this is what people mean when their sig is automatically disabled! I get it now, and that's pretty nifty TBQH.
...*goes ahead and post sig anyway since it has Sonic giving you a thumbs up just to make my clarification post all that more assuring/awesome.*
Edit: ...Oh so this is what people mean when their sig is automatically disabled! I get it now, and that's pretty nifty TBQH.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
I know its just difficult because generally someone does know someone one the staff. I'm not saying its explicit.
I can tell you all know, that there isn't any sort of conspiracy in the Staffer Shack. We choose mods that get things done, and know what they're doing. That doesn't mean we don't make mistakes.
If there is a bad mod, post in forum disputes. I don't get why you're arguing against it. There was a glitch once, so you can't trust to ever post in there again? I mean, the admins are by far the most reasonable of the bunch. They won't hate you for tattling on a bad mod. They'll thank you, if that's the case.
The members make the community-- not the staff.
If there is a bad mod, post in forum disputes. I don't get why you're arguing against it. There was a glitch once, so you can't trust to ever post in there again? I mean, the admins are by far the most reasonable of the bunch. They won't hate you for tattling on a bad mod. They'll thank you, if that's the case.
The members make the community-- not the staff.
M.K
Level 55
Thank you, I look forward to your response.
The moderators, as a whole, are extremely good. However, when I feel a moderator has overstepped his boundaries and duties, I believe it is appropriate that the correct disciplinary actions and/or consequences are dealt.
In fact, for all the bad rap it gets, the PRoom has some of the best moderation around.
Kinzer
Mammy
Bad rep?
You sure that isn't just people too scared to venture in there?
You sure that isn't just people too scared to venture in there?
Cinder
Smash Master
I completely agree...and I apologize to the staff, since, as stated, I as well believe that most of them are great...my intention wasn't to say that every single mod is corrupt, even though in my intensity it may have come out that way (which is why I don't plan to join the Debate Hall...I get way too gung-ho ._.)...
As Meta said, I have nothing against the majority of the staff, and usually understand and agree with them, but when a mod oversteps their boundaries, even if it IS "just once", I tend to take it seriously...
So yeah, I know I got a fit of blind passion...I hate to admit it, but I reckon that's one of my character flaws XD...but as CK suggested, I created a group to get a bunch of people looking to patch up the site together...perhaps we can, as a group, come up with some good ways to make everyone's experience here a little better...
I think after getting responses from half the staff outsmarting me, I've learned to be a little more careful how I channel my passions XD
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
One question, though, Cinder... How does the "corruption" you say that most, if not all, moderators on SWF have, apply?
Normally corruption involves paying someone (with money, goods, actions, ...) for doing something for you in return. I'd like to know, because I've never seen cases like this on SWF.
Also, please don't bash Brawl players, because there are annoying Melee players just as well:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230691
Normally corruption involves paying someone (with money, goods, actions, ...) for doing something for you in return. I'd like to know, because I've never seen cases like this on SWF.
Also, please don't bash Brawl players, because there are annoying Melee players just as well:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230691
Cinder
Smash Master
For the last time, I bash the game, not its players >.>
Believe it or not, I have the utmost respect for a lot of Brawlers, as long as they don't cross me...
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Would you mind answering my actual question instead?
Cinder
Smash Master
Okay, so perhaps corruption was a bad term -__-
Let's go with incompetence, shall we? And I believe Firus will PM you the story as promised...
Let's go with incompetence, shall we? And I believe Firus will PM you the story as promised...
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Look, I don't see how the staff is incompetent. They're humans, too. Every human may make mistakes. If you just spit into their face they're incompetent for a mistake, I don't see how this is going to help at all.
I rather think what has to be changed a lot and with utter importance is the view many people see the moderators and administrators in. I see no sense in being a douche to them just because they made a mistake. If one moderator constantly does wrong, then I can see where you're coming from, because he then will not fit into the staff. But making one mistake should not warrant putting all members of the staff into one drawer and saying the complete staff is incompetent. They are doing this on a voluntary base, and have to make some very hard decisions. And all they get is **** like they would be incompetent, if one of their members makes a wrong decision, or even if they make the right decisions, but some people still don't like it. =/
I rather think what has to be changed a lot and with utter importance is the view many people see the moderators and administrators in. I see no sense in being a douche to them just because they made a mistake. If one moderator constantly does wrong, then I can see where you're coming from, because he then will not fit into the staff. But making one mistake should not warrant putting all members of the staff into one drawer and saying the complete staff is incompetent. They are doing this on a voluntary base, and have to make some very hard decisions. And all they get is **** like they would be incompetent, if one of their members makes a wrong decision, or even if they make the right decisions, but some people still don't like it. =/
LordoftheMorning
Smash Champion
What a bunch of Negative Nancys. That's all I have to say on the subject.
In other news, Cinder has insulted me. He MUST PAY! Therefore I challenge you to a wifi BRAWL match! My FC's below my avi, see you in five minutes, k? k.
In other news, Cinder has insulted me. He MUST PAY! Therefore I challenge you to a wifi BRAWL match! My FC's below my avi, see you in five minutes, k? k.
Skrah
Smash Ace
Jam, could the Dont's of Blogging be stickied just as a suggestion, not as an official guide to go through? I mean, it was unstickied and we already have like 2 blogs doing stuff that simply takes up space and could've gone in the meet and greet.
There really are no "Don'ts" of blogging, as blogs are supposed to be whatever you want, so long as they follow the rules. I locked that thread because of the other posts, not because of the OP. If blogs violate the Global Rules, they will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Are we allowed to bump the thread, then?
I mean, I can see where you are coming from (although it seems that you're rather begrudgingly saying all that and your superiors told you to make blogs spammy again), but I dunno... We've achieved so much in this section of the board. Now scrapping everything again does hurt. =|
I mean, I can see where you are coming from (although it seems that you're rather begrudgingly saying all that and your superiors told you to make blogs spammy again), but I dunno... We've achieved so much in this section of the board. Now scrapping everything again does hurt. =|
Skrah
Smash Ace
Oh, well, I guess the best we can do is just not posting in the stupid blogs so they're taken away by the more visited blogs.
M.K
Level 55
Why did your opinion change so drastically over time? Was this prompted by a higher authority?
As far as I can see, the User Blogs is just going to descend into chaos and spam unless some rules are in effect. The SWF Global Rules just don't cut if for this board.
I think it's pretty shameful that people insult the moderating staff that is volunteering their time to you guys to the best of our abilities don't take into account that we're people.
Insulting us by calling us incompetent and stupid, is a sad thing to do when you consider we're a bunch of normal people volunteering our time to you guys. And the whole time you do this the staff manages to make polite informative answers, think about your positions and arguments before you make them.
Insulting us by calling us incompetent and stupid, is a sad thing to do when you consider we're a bunch of normal people volunteering our time to you guys. And the whole time you do this the staff manages to make polite informative answers, think about your positions and arguments before you make them.
As a friend, Chris, I'd like to state that there are more people who bash Brawl than Melee, so there isn't exactly a problem lying in this quote. We've passed the period of Melee, and it was loved, and it is missed. But now, Brawl is here, and there are a few people who are obviously unhappy with the change.
I honestly cannot believe that there are people who just "obnoxiously" hate Melee just because Brawl was released. That actually doesn't make any sense. We all have our opinions for things we like, but most of us "Brawltards" loved Melee, and we still do.
In my opinion, I think we should just put an end to this whole Melee vs Brawl thing, because it has been more than a year since Brawl came out and it is ridiculous how people continue to try to prove which is the better game. It is a matter of opinion. People are so caught up in competition that they let silly things like this bother them.
To me, Smashboards is just a site. I may not have been here as long as you have, but this site has always been loved by me whether it is was about Smash or not. If anything is "declining" it would be Smash in general, not Smashboards.com. So we should leave the staff out of it.
Kinzer
Mammy
^^
Read: "Join Date: 1970."
You lie about not being here as long as some other people have apparently.
Read: "Join Date: 1970."
You lie about not being here as long as some other people have apparently.
Time travel doesn't count.