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Some of us break away from this, but as a general rule, humans are creatures of habit. We generally respond well to familiarity but when something breaks that familiarity, major backlash is almost guaranteed. It happened to Sticker Star, it happened to SFZ and Color Splash is almost certain to be met with the same result. Color Splash may very well be a good game, but I can't ever foresee it reaching the status of games like TTYD.
That's what bothers me about Metroid FF. I think it's going to be fun, but it's not a Metroid game in the traditional sense. I wish they'd stop labeling new ideas after old things.
..FedForce is a spinoff. A spinoff in continuity with the main series, yes, but it's a spinoff game. That's what spnoffs are; new games with the names of older ones that aren't the same genre.
Well that is just the problem with FF. Metriod fans have been waiting for a new game for so long and when they finally announce something new it is just a spin-off game. If they would have at least told people they were working on a main Metriod game before announcing FF things would have been a lot better.
I was pretty clear about what I was and wasn't sure about... What else haven't I backed up?
Critics are dumb. We've had "notable" ones do stupid **** like go around the same loop in a cave for an hour before whining about it, or better yet praised PMSS's blatantly flawed gameplay. I don't think we needed to pander to them.
SF0 didn't have anywhere near the backlash of PMSS though. Reviewers didn't like it and some people on obscure forums hated it but that's it.
Their options were to release it now or sit on it for another generation... They didn't say there's a mainline Metroid in the works because it doesn't exist right now.
I don't disagree, but have they ever really promoted it as a spin-off (I'm really asking), because I'm getting the vibe that this is the future of the Metroid series, all this team bull****.
There's literally no reason to assume it's not merely a canonical spinoff.
Why? We haven't seen anything Metroid since Other M. The creators gave seemed to hint that they really don't know/not confident in where to take the series. The title really suggests nothing to me. By your point the first 3 MP games could be considered spinoffs as well.
The game has been in development since before Prime 3 came out and the story and gameplay were largely decided then... They're not sure where to take the series because nobody wants to make it. The point here is to try and re-establish something.
Doesn't that kind of prove my point? This seems to be the direction they want to take the series. It's not traditionally like the rest of the series, and can spell the end of traditional Metroid games as well known them if successful. When they planned to make it has no consequence in this conversation, the point is it very well be the replacement.
I'm currently under the impression that Federation Force isn't meant to be the future of Metroid, just merely a spinoff that takes place in the Prime era, just from the perspective of the GF Marines. Though it's said that Tanabe (producer of the Prime series) hopes that this entry will lead to a true Prime sequel sometime in the near future, but nothing has been set in stone yet, or so he says. I don't think there's too much to worry about, but one never knows I guess.
I'm hoping this is just it, but they've been too mum on thexactly future if this series for me to have any confidence in it either way. I'm really hoping we get a Prime style entry for the NX.
They made me wait a **** decade for Pikmin 3 and chances are they're going to pull the same stunt for a Kid Icarus: Uprising sequel.
What was the game that was shown on this video? Apparently it doesn't exist anymore. (Probably for the better.)
Meme Run.
Also, why have they not put
in Mario Kart yet?Heh, that would be pretty awesome if he was in Mario Kart.Also, why have they not put
I heard Kirby Robobot is arguably the best game in the series. Worth a look and pretty much brand new.
Well, there are games like Mario Kart 7, Kid Icarus Uprising (one of the greatest games on 3DS I think), A Link Between Worlds, the Mario & Luigi series, Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and others (among some notable 3rd party games like MH4U and the upcoming Generations). Maybe some of those might strike your fancy.
Usually the new Kirby games are called the best when they come out, and later on, people find a spot for it. As a huge Kirby fan, Planet Robobot is one of my favorites, maybe 3rd, with my personal favorites being The Crystal Shards (Kirby 64) and Return to Dreamland.
The Wii was a big hit among casuals, which in turn coaxed Nintendo to attempt to capture the same audience with the Wii U, but we all saw how that turned out. If anything, they should try to focus more on the core gaming audience. That might yield better results....and maybe tone down the amount of gimmicks that could potentially turn people away.
Completely agree.
To be fair, the vast majority of Duck Hunt's prominence arises from the fact that it was not only shipped with the system, but on the same cart as SMB itself. That said, you're very right, Duck Hunt was not a "core" game, but that's my point. I've absolutely no problem with the more casual, gimmicky games (like Duck Hunt) to entice people who otherwise might find less interest in the system, I would just like to see those experiences presented as additional to the main experience, not tied to the system in a compulsory manner (as of late through the default controls of the system - with games that use a traditional control scheme being the exception, not the rule). It's not like the Light Gun was the primary controller for the NES itself.
Yes, in the west, due to the reticence of the gaming market after the preceding crash. Not so much in Japan. And soon after the "toy" angle was soon dropped, as were most of the more "gimmicky" control schemes (such as ROB and the Light Gun) when the core experience of simply the game and the default controller were found to be by far the most popular aspect of the system.
Again, to be fair, much of the features implemented to breeze through chunks of the game were not overtly easy to access for or known by the typical player, especially in the age before the internet. But you're right, for the most part the Mario games are sliding down a scale of relative ease (with exceptional levels here and there), though that's a bit unrelated to the point I'm making. It's true by making the games easier they are trying to appeal to a wider market, but they're not alienating the more "core" audience in this fashion, unlike obtuse control schemes which face derision with much more frequency.
I don't see the difference between a few casual games on the NES and a few casual games on the Wii... The Wiimote wasn't created to be casual bait, it was created because they could meaningfully improve or add to games with it. People were complaining about the NES controller just like people complained about the Wiimote, remember.
Actually, Nintendo's main target from the Wii's lifetime was the casual audience. They wanted to gather the attention of people who don't normally play games on a regular basis as the core gamer does. To this end, Nintendo thought that motion-based control would be easier to understand for the non-gamer instead of the traditional button control setup that standard controllers use (i.e., the average person knowing how to swing their arms as opposed to knowing what a random button does). With Nintendo's logic in play here, yes, the Wii Remote was indeed casual bait, considering that the core gaming majority was more likely to flock to traditional controls.
So are you saying games couldn't legitimately be difficult in one way or another without some sort of cheap and broken artificial difficulty? Also, there you go again flinging the word "gimmick" around like it's the be all-end all aspect of video games. "Gimmick" is a word that has multiple meanings and to throw it out so frequently, calling every notable feature of video games a gimmick causes it to lose weight extremely quickly. At that point, how do you distinguish between gameplay and gameplay gimmicks? It wouldn't be easy.
Initially, no. They just wanted to make something that could play games in a new, better way. Hence "Revolution."
Still waiting for this trend to die. I have played so many triple-A games with open worlds for the sake of having open worlds.
