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What Characters can Fox Wave shine?
- Thread starter young wus
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young wus
Smash Journeyman
OK i will. thanks. Is there a thread on smash DI???
MegaMarthMan
Smash Cadet
at different times you have like I don't know how many frames to change moves but probably 1-6? Correct me if I'm wrong but in a time line each dot is a frame okay? d-b is down B.
d-b....jump...d-b....jump...d-b...jump.....d-b ect...
My only tip it's really hard don't get frustrated I can only do it like 5 times in row and I
short hop double laser in 1.5 speed it's that hard!
d-b....jump...d-b....jump...d-b...jump.....d-b ect...
My only tip it's really hard don't get frustrated I can only do it like 5 times in row and I
short hop double laser in 1.5 speed it's that hard!
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
List of characters Fox can waveshine:
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Doctor Mario
Donkey Kong
Ganon
Ice Climbers
Link
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Ness
Peach
Samus
Sheik/Zelda
Yoshi
List of charactesr that fall down from the shine:
Fox
Falco
Game & Watch
Jiggs
Kirby
Pichu
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu
Mewtwo
Bowser
Captain Falcon
Doctor Mario
Donkey Kong
Ganon
Ice Climbers
Link
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Ness
Peach
Samus
Sheik/Zelda
Yoshi
List of charactesr that fall down from the shine:
Fox
Falco
Game & Watch
Jiggs
Kirby
Pichu
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu
Mewtwo
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
An the first list is alphabetical order!!
Woot!
XD
Woot!
XD
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Yeah. lol I just went to character specific and looked at the characters then typed their names.
Bets
Smash Journeyman
prosmashertim. his fox is all about the multishine. have you seen his latest combo video "No Chillout"?
young wus
Smash Journeyman
i saw the "no chillout" video it was tight!!!! i loved the multi-shine........ i wish my fox was like that! i didnt really like the songs. Sry bout the double post! Hey i cant seem to get in the shine back air.......... i can do it with no one there but when im fighting i cant seem to land it( meaning my back air comes out, just i dont land it), can i have sum help on that????
young wus
Smash Journeyman
so all of those characters can be wave shined???( across the map {FD})
Hit with the tippy top of the shine, and do it faster.
Bets
Smash Journeyman
young wus, i'll play you sometime this week. i'll teach you my fox.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
Cool i would love to play ur fox.......... so when u wanna do the shine to back air...... u must hit the top of the shine??? so u cant( meaning it is impossible) hit them anywhere else( with the shine) and land the back air???
also do i have to short hop the back air, or can i full jumb it, can every character be shined back air'd???PS: hope to play u soon bets! also thx for the help ppl!
Bets
Smash Journeyman
In most cases shinebair will not hit because most people do not DI into it unless you're Lovage. SFAT and Hai?(L__) have told me that they both regret learning it. The only use I have for shine bair is on pc stadium when the stage is set up for infinites.
It's so stupid. You have to DI up and towards to get it off the shine.
professor mgw
Smash Champion
waveshine is good but not really important.
Bets
Smash Journeyman
young wus
Smash Journeyman
You Forgot 1 guy who lost to the shine back air( Eggz is the reason i want to be able to do the shine back air)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAmthNm61PA
so shine back air is not even useful ( only for falco)???
PS: wtf do u mean wave shine isnt important??? what bout the thunder combo??? u need wave shine for that......... how bout when u wanna follow up with a combo????........ or to pressure their shield???............ and simply to show off..... come on who doesnt want a little attention??? i think waveshine is very important..... besides u wanna fox looking sexy( lol )!
Eggz
Smash Hero
most people don't DI into shine bair?
last i checked, proper survival DI is what DIs into shine bair, so most good opponents who dont expect you to do it ever single time will do it.
switch it up between shine bairing while only intending to hit with the bair and shine bairing to hit with both. its meant to keep them guessing on their DI.
last i checked, proper survival DI is what DIs into shine bair, so most good opponents who dont expect you to do it ever single time will do it.
switch it up between shine bairing while only intending to hit with the bair and shine bairing to hit with both. its meant to keep them guessing on their DI.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
oh thx....... i loved how u totally came back on DJ combo with that shine back air, after getting wooped urself in the beginning.......... so what i understand is that the shine Back air is just like a mind game so u can trick them from the way they DI???
rabbt
Smash Journeyman
The way it works is, they either DI different and risk dying, or DI right and risk getting baired.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
oh i see so basically is not good for them, cause they only have 2 opinions, getting hit, or taking the chance that they might get shined off the map????............ but can every character be shine back air'd???
Eggz
Smash Hero
yes .
i'm pretty srue you meant options not opinions.
sorry that was bothering me.
sorry that was bothering me.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
lol...... my bad! Do u have to short hop the shine back air to land it??? or can it be full jumbed??? Also is there a way i should DI correctly, other than DI toward the enemy????
Well...it's dependent on THEIR DI not really yours.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
so You dont have to short hop the shine back air with fox????
rabbt
Smash Journeyman
*sigh*
Usually you're in the air already when it's done (ie: ledge hop it), so you do neither: you double jump it.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
ook!!! is there a certain way to DI out of it??? or all you have to do is just DI away from it???
rabbt
Smash Journeyman
It depends on the characters. Floaties can probably SDI down and be safe, but I haven't done any tests or anything.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
what does "SDI" mean???
rabbt
Smash Journeyman
Bets
Smash Journeyman
digression
yay
yay
You can't continually waveshine Luigi or Ice Climbers to my knowledge, and if Marth is DIing away, don't you have to dash out of the wavedash and JC shine to actually continue it?
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
young wus
Smash Journeyman
oh thanks....... and by the way lol on ur control....... jeff!
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
I never said that all those characters can be waveshined across the map. The ones on the top are the characters that don't fall down from the shine. So technically, you can dair->shine them. Thats called a waveshine. Waveshine refers to the act of JC your shine into the WD, not shining them continually.
If you're talking about characters you can infinite:
Falcon
DK (can d.i. out probably, but shield is so bad your shine might stab it. If they roll it doesn't help much either)
Ganon
Bowser (can d.i. out and upB)
Link
Peach
Sheik/Zelda
Samus (can d.i. out)
Bets
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, you're gonna have to dash-> JC shine cause I know that you can just walk out of wavedash to shine when marth doesn't DI.
young wus
Smash Journeyman
is waveshine( but when u waveshine across the map) more important then shine back air???
Yes
Infinitely much more important.
silly californians.
Infinitely much more important.
silly californians.
uhhhhh
ok, so you seem to be saying a lot of things here:
1.
Technically, you can dair -> shine anyone once. Given a wall, you can dair-> shine characters that don't fall down to shine infinitely. Without a wall, you can only do a moving drill shine on characters that don't fall down and aren't ICs and Luigi and I'm pretty sure with DI that Mario, Doc, Ness and Marth can escape too. (Maybe even more with SDI, I don't really care to find that stuff out)
2.
No, it's not, it's called a drillshine or dair -> shine and probably some other silly names, but it's certainly not called a waveshine.
3.
While I 100% agree with you here, there is some ambiguity and when a new person asks about waveshining. It's usually right after they see shined blind and as such think of waveshining as continually hitting them. That's also how I read the topic of the thread, since you can wavedash out of your shine regardless of who you hit. If we use waveshine to just mean wavedash out of a shine, the only correct way to answer the question "What Characters can Fox waveshine?" is "all of them"
Anyway, <3 Raynex, not trying to fight or anything, I'm just trying to clarify the question and the answer here.