What Characters can Fox Wave shine?

[young wus]

Basically i have picked up fox. and i would like to know what characters can be wave shined. Also, i was wondering if the wave shine is even that important. This is because, i hear that most of the good characters cant be wave shined. Another thing, i don't now if i should learn the multi-shine. Is it worth it??? does it Actually help in battle??? Thanks For Replying!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

any of them that dont fall. (pika, jiggs, pichu, fox, falco, roy..i think im missing some are the ones that fall)

multishine helps for shield pressure but there are safer options

 

[choknater]

People with high traction are easier to do it on: Peach, Link, Falcon, perhaps Ganon.

It's better to drillshine combo instead of straight up waveshine.

(Sometimes they can try to sdi away out of the drill and do Peach's dsmash or something.)

 

[jugfingers]

even the ones that fall can be comboed with a jab out of waveshines though so its still useful against them, plus if you can waveshine consistently its easy to get off grabs, like drillshine->wavedash into grab->throw etc, so yea you should learn it.

multishines aren't as useful as waveshines but they will get you hella fine ladies.

 

[Miggz]

This http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=67333 has everything you need.

 

[choknater]

multishines aren't as useful as waveshines but they will get you hella fine ladies.

Lmao.

In a match i played against mango with my sheik, he triple shined my shield and I got hit by the last one =\ random but it worked

 

[DtJ Jungle]

i mean it works as shield pressure but who consistently wants to do that..

 

[Miggz]

Yeah...that's Mango for you...

 

[Piman34]

how do you have negative post count?

 

[Miggz]

how do you have negative post count?

Mindgames. =P

Ok I am really getting tired of the color of our names changing. lol

Can they pick one and stick with it already?!

April fools is over. lol

 

[choknater]

I don't know lol, you tell me.

APRIL FOOLS!

jk, i know.

lol @ not revealing how i did it

Spoiler

i didn't do it

 

[young wus]

Thank For the answers........... i have another question............ how actally do u multi- shine........... i have seen it done but have not learned how 2 do it.

 

[choknater]

there are various methods... basically

you shine
jump cancel
shine
jump cancel

etc

some people use down BYBYBY or down BXBXBX with a sliding finger motion

not sure about other methods

 

[Piman34]

personally I can do both, but only to about 10 times only, but the Y --> B is much easier, for me, since sliding over the a button coming from X is harder to go fast

negative post count ftw

 

[young wus]

is it like a a fast thing??? like.............. u press Down B then Y at the same time...... or what???

 

[Miggz]

JC shines is not that big of a deal. I wouldn't bother learning it.

Me personally, I'd stick with just basic waveshines.

 

[young wus]

i see.............. so the Multi- shine isnt that useful???

 

[Miggz]

Not really (I'm assuming you mean JC shines. =P). People only use them for showing off. I mean if you want to learn go for it. Just keep in mind that its not really a tool worth using in battle. XD

 

[EWC]

There are a few situations where being able to do two fast shines is useful, or being able to shine oos, but it's really not important.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

not at the same time...you can jump cancel on the 3rd frame...or like 1/20th of a second....so fast...but not at the same time

 

[choknater]

No. It's a timing thing. It's really fast... but if you do it too fast, the timing will be thrown off

 

[young wus]

i See....... well im not even going 2 waste my time with it........ i am just going 2 focus on the Wave shine............ Could you guys give me a link to a good Fox combo video???

 

[Dogysamich]

Multishining is useful for that fact that you could do something like double-shine on somebody's shield, and then shinegrab.

Sure you could do it with waveshines, but you add 14+ frames in the middle of the shines ( I know that number now, yay i get to wave it in people's faces ),

 

[DtJ Jungle]

but why do a multshine to jc grab when you can do a shine jc grab?

 

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best fox combo videoo everrrr

 

[young wus]

do u have the link to that video on youtube??? hella good combos. thanks for the help yall!

 

[young wus]

was zelgadis the best fox??? or is he still???

 

[DtJ Jungle]

LOL shined blind.

DBR DI for the win.

no. hes not.

see PC Chris, Raynex, Col Bol.

and Cactuar....and M2K...and..****...mang0?

 

[young wus]

dam i never knew that u can shine falco when he does his Forward B, and his Fire! dam i got to learn more. lol! Zelgadis is the best fox i have seen! PS: i like the first song more than the other 1.

 

[young wus]

lol mango! ok i have seen PC Chris, Cactuar, and replicate, a little of M2K but not much.

 

[young wus]

DBR DI for the win.

what does that mean???

 

[Geist]

lol use the edit button

DBR is the crew DBR (death by ****). They came up with a bunch of combo videos that got mad rep a few years ago. Zelgadis's Shined blind practically spawned thousands of competitive players alone.
I think the active members are Zelgadis, King, Silent Spectre, Hella, Bob$, and a bunch of retired people too. (Edit: Apparently germ still plays too)
DI is directional influence, in case you didn't know. Pressing a direction while getting hit influences where you go, basically.
DBR DI is silly stuff, like European DI. They're pretty silly themselves.

And yeah, Falco's UpB doesn't have a hitbox until he starts moving.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

you can also rest the phantasm too

its fun

 

[Geist]

lol you can rest anything
invincibility frames ftw

 

[DtJ Jungle]

by invincibility frames you mean....frame.

 

[xMosmo]

I think he meant with the assistance of invincibility frames, you can rest anything.

either way fox cant rest. lolwut.

 

[young wus]

Oh i See, I thought it ment sum thing else, or sum special way 2 DI. Hey by the way can anyone show me how 2 look at the tourney's cuming up? i dont get it, and i want to go to tourney's so i can get better, but i never know when they are going on, but i get to see sum matches on youtube.

 

[xMosmo]

Just go here!

http://www.smashboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=89

regional boards, get in the scene.

 

[young wus]

Thanks Man!!!!!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

no i knew what he meant

i was just being a prick