What character is right for me?

[Ballin]

Right now, I play a little of Marth, fox, falco and falcon.
My main is probably marth, but I just don't like his style anymore.

Whenever I play against someone that's even a little better than me, it feels like I just get completely shut down.
Playing marth, I'm either ****** someone, or getting *****. There is no middle ground.

I'm going to commit to this game harder and learn the fundamentals of the game that i never got to learn in preparation for SMYM. So if you have any tips for practicing, that would be great.

I am not a patient person. Although I'm learning to be more patient, it is not in my nature. I would like to play one of the characters I listed because I do not want to relearn a whole new char. Fox - I like his ability to pressure with nair shine and shine to grab, and I feel like no matter what happens, he always has options. Falco I really like because i'm good at wave shining with him, but I feel stuck under pressure. Falcon I really like, but against spacies, I will have no options except to wait for them to **** up.

So I'm not patient, I like automatic things... meaning if i do the tech skill required, I will get the results I want. which char to i commit to and practice?
Sorry if this post is bad to read. I'm really ****ing tired right now.

 

[Beat!]

Definitely Falco (or possibly Fox), given the criteria you listed.

 

[Planet Piss]

You should make that decision yourself. We can't do it for you. If you can't play consistently with one character, you probably won't automatically develop that skill by switching to another one. Your main should be your favorite character, not one you think will win matches for you.

I'd say Jiggs.

 

[Ballin]

My favorite character is marth.
But i do care about winning.
Not even just winning, but I get frustrated playing marth.
Like mew2king vs PP or mango... even he just gets completely shut down by people a little better than him.
I think i'll just practice both marth and falco. and play both at SMYM and see which one I like better in competition.

 

[Varist]

omg shut up planet piss do not kill the game

do you realize that if more people play jiggs more of our sets will be stalls and camping, omg

someone put puff on the bottom of the tier list so no one will play her. right next to bowser actually, so people who want to "play the worst character" for attention don't accidentally pick her and **** everything up.

 

[Avalancer]

Falco or Falcon

 

[Mahie]

Falco is probably one of the most straight-forward characters at low~mid levels, but if you really wanna improve you'll need to learn patience, no matter what character you play.

 

[King5280]

omg shut up planet piss do not kill the game

do you realize that if more people play jiggs more of our sets will be stalls and camping, omg

someone put puff on the bottom of the tier list so no one will play her. Right next to bowser actually, so people who want to "play the worst character" for attention don't accidentally pick her and **** everything up.

oh my gawd fox mains are the only reason melee is fun. Only fast fallers are real characters!!!! THANK GOD FOR VARIST

 

[Prince_Abu]

omg shut up planet piss do not kill the game

do you realize that if more people play jiggs more of our sets will be stalls and camping, omg

someone put puff on the bottom of the tier list so no one will play her. right next to bowser actually, so people who want to "play the worst character" for attention don't accidentally pick her and **** everything up.

haters gon hate

 

[Merkuri]

Unless all you want to do win then you should go with Fox, Falco is a very boring character and cannot be played efficiently into many different ways. Of the characters you mentioned Fox would probably be the best for you, although getting combo ***** will probably get frustrating every now and then.

 

[Divinokage]

Falco is boring and cannot be played efficiently in different ways? Excuse me? What have you been watching all these years? lol.

 

[Merkuri]

Falco is boring and cannot be played efficiently in different ways? Excuse me? What have you been watching all these years? lol.

I have been watching pretty much the same exact pillar combos/shield pressure over and over again. For the past 6 or so years.

 

[King5280]

Unless all you want to do win then you should go with Fox, Falco is a very boring character and cannot be played efficiently into many different ways. Of the characters you mentioned Fox would probably be the best for you, although getting combo ***** will probably get frustrating every now and then.

i hate you

 

[Kal]

You should make that decision yourself. We can't do it for you. If you can't play consistently with one character, you probably won't automatically develop that skill by switching to another one. Your main should be your favorite character, not one you think will win matches for you.

I'd say Jiggs.

I don't think it's all about winning. I am a player who likes rushdown options, but at the same time I am obsessed with precision. From the beginning, Marth was good for the latter, and I spent forever trying to develop options for the former on my own. I mean, there were some things that worked in certain matchups, but overall I wish someone had just told me

"hey Kal, did you know that Fox can like, approach?"

and I would have immediately ****ed in my pants and picked up Fox, instead of waiting three years to do it. Certain characters maximize a players potential by accentuating their personal strengths, and that is usually how they have the most fun anyway. You're going to be pissed if you like aggressive, rushdown-heavy game play, but you chose to main Peach or Link because Peach is cute or you think Link's forward smash is cool.

 

[Jolteon]

This thread makes me sad.

@OP: You'll need patience for every character, but you especially won't go anywhere with Marth if you aren't patient.

 

[Divinokage]

I have been watching pretty much the same exact pillar combos/shield pressure over and over again. For the past 6 or so years.

Hm then that can be said for every character.

 

[Archangel]

Hm then that can be said for every character.

I disagree...only because you saw little to no footage of most characters until recent years aside from the same handful.

Statement does cover Fox/Falco/Falcon/Doc/Mario/Marth/Sheik/Ice Climbers pretty well though.

 

[Merkuri]

Hm then that can be said for every character.

Except that's all Falco does. Pillar combos/shield pressure and lasers sums up Falco's game pretty well.

 

[Divinokage]

I disagree...only because you saw little to no footage of most characters until recent years aside from the same handful.

Statement does cover Fox/Falco/Falcon/Doc/Mario/Marth/Sheik/Ice Climbers pretty well though.

How the heck would you know that about me? lol You know I've been around for a LONG time now.

 

[Archangel]

How the heck would you know that about me? lol You know I've been around for a LONG time now.

oh bad communication on my part. When I said you I didn't mean you as in you kage. I meant people in general didn't didn't see many of the other characters until recent years. When you did see them they were getting scrapped by one of the characters I mentioned usually.

 

[Divinokage]

oh bad communication on my part. When I said you I didn't mean you as in you kage. I meant people in general didn't didn't see many of the other characters until recent years. When you did see them they were getting scrapped by one of the characters I mentioned usually.

Oh ok then that's likely. But I mean I think the real magic of Melee is HOW the players setup combos, I think it's always awesome to see even if it's not totally surprising now it's still great! lol. Which is why I disagree with Merkuri's statement when all Falcos does is standard pillaring without mixing it up with like Utilts, downtilts/dash attack and stuff like that to extend combos.. or like wavelanding everywhere like a blue chicken.

 

[Archangel]

Oh ok then that's likely. But I mean I think the real magic of Melee is HOW the players setup combos, I think it's always awesome to see even if it's not totally surprising now it's still great! lol. Which is why I disagree with Merkuri's statement when all Falcos does is standard pillaring without mixing it up with like Utilts, downtilts/dash attack and stuff like that to extend combos.. or like wavelanding everywhere like a blue chicken.

ah well I do agree in that sense then. Seeing people trap or lure people into creative "WTF DID THAT JUST HAPPEN!?" combos is the reason why I still watch melee.

on a side note: I don't think standard Falco is even viable against most people anyways. When was the last time you saw someone pull off a 0-death with old school Shine-full hop dair? lol.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Play Yoshi.

 

[EPsilon933]

The character chooses you

Play long enough and it'll find you

 

[Planet Piss]

I don't think it's all about winning. I am a player who likes rushdown options, but at the same time I am obsessed with precision. From the beginning, Marth was good for the latter, and I spent forever trying to develop options for the former on my own. I mean, there were some things that worked in certain matchups, but overall I wish someone had just told me

"hey Kal, did you know that Fox can like, approach?"

and I would have immediately ****ed in my pants and picked up Fox, instead of waiting three years to do it. Certain characters maximize a players potential by accentuating their personal strengths, and that is usually how they have the most fun anyway. You're going to be pissed if you like aggressive, rushdown-heavy game play, but you chose to main Peach or Link because Peach is cute or you think Link's forward smash is cool.

This is why I told him to make the decision himself. If he wants to win then it's obvious who he should pick (from). I'm just saying that he can't magically get better by switching characters, which, I think, is the misconception he has. If he wants to join the spacie circle jerk he's perfectly welcome, but it seems like the problems he has lie in the fundamentals of the metagame (patience, consistency, ect.). If he has problems with patience and consistency, I highly doubt he would make a good Falco or Fox.

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

Playing marth, I'm either ****** someone, or getting *****. There is no middle ground.

Hate to tell you this, but Falcon, Fox, and Falco don't really fix that problem lol.

You're in a super early point in your development (based on what you're saying); try EVERY character. I know you say you don't want to learn a whole new character but you probably know less about the ones you play than you think. You're going to have to work hard no matter what path you take, so feel free to explore.

The character chooses you

Play long enough and it'll find you

Truth.

 

[Bing]

I ran into an identical situation recently. I mained Marth, but my aggresive style just didnt suit the character. So I switched to Fox/Falco. I can honestly say that Im happier now because as a Fox main my results have been better and my enjoyment in the game has not decreased by any means. Also to go along with this, because of the skill required to play Fox at a high level, your skill level in General increases so If you truly did want to stick with Marth, even as a secondary like I did, I feel this option would probably work out.

 

[n1000]

The character chooses you

Play long enough and it'll find you

"Mystical explanations are considered deep; the truth is, they are not even shallow." -Nietzsche

 

[King5280]

I don't think it's all about winning. I am a player who likes rushdown options, but at the same time I am obsessed with precision. From the beginning, Marth was good for the latter, and I spent forever trying to develop options for the former on my own. I mean, there were some things that worked in certain matchups, but overall I wish someone had just told me

"hey Kal, did you know that Fox can like, approach?"

and I would have immediately ****ed in my pants and picked up Fox, instead of waiting three years to do it. Certain characters maximize a players potential by accentuating their personal strengths, and that is usually how they have the most fun anyway. You're going to be pissed if you like aggressive, rushdown-heavy game play, but you chose to main Peach or Link because Peach is cute or you think Link's forward smash is cool.

links fsmash is so cool

 

[Warhawk]

Unless all you want to do win then you should go with Fox, Falco is a very boring character and cannot be played efficiently into many different ways. Of the characters you mentioned Fox would probably be the best for you, although getting combo ***** will probably get frustrating every now and then.

Maybe its just me but I think Fox is actually more cookie cutter than Falco... Then again, not like the way to play any character is set in stone...

 

[Fregadero]

From the sound of it probably fox...

But I think you should explore the cast, especially the top half.

 

[n1000]

links fsmash is so cool

links fsmash is so cool

 

[Kal]

This is why I told him to make the decision himself. If he wants to win then it's obvious who he should pick (from). I'm just saying that he can't magically get better by switching characters, which, I think, is the misconception he has. If he wants to join the spacie circle jerk he's perfectly welcome, but it seems like the problems he has lie in the fundamentals of the metagame (patience, consistency, ect.). If he has problems with patience and consistency, I highly doubt he would make a good Falco or Fox.

It can just be helpful to get input on these issues from other players. I'm not saying someone else should make the decision for him, and it's not as though the decision is going to be final, i.e., if someone tells him he should main Fox and he tries it and realizes that he is worse off for it or simply enjoys it less, there is nothing stopping him from switching back. More experienced players can provide insight he won't have for a long time, which is why I think it's a good thing to ask people what characters suit them in terms of playstyle. This is especially so if you are unfamiliar with the metagame.

 

[AKARed]

I honestly have a tough time deciding which character is right for me, but I ended up sticking with Ice Climbers just because I learned you can desynch with them right in the beginning all on my own plus I seem to perform decently well with them and can wobble although wobbling seems banned at some tournaments like apex.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

i sort of agree with the idea the character picks you. But its more like u will feel comfortable and have an affinity for a certain character, and thats the one u should use

 

[n1000]

tl;dr for this thread: if you like a character, pick that one.

p. startling conclusion , actually. when u think about it.

 

[Bing]

I also agree with that statement that the character picks you. Explore the cast and which ever feels the most comfortable, go with them. And even if you're not the greatest with them to start, yet it still feels right. Keep at it, Rome wasnt built in a day.

 

[Bones0]

Don't choose a character based on what you know (or think you know) about the game so far. Generalizations like "As Falcon I can't do anything vs. spacies unless they mess up" aren't true at all no matter how convinced you may be now. This is especially relevant when it comes to picking characters for certain matchups. It's a horrible habit that almost everyone is guilty of (myself included). Pick your 3 favorite characters based on YOUR style when using them, and you'll eventually settle on one. Playing 2-3 characters may slow your improvement in the beginning, but as you improve and get a better understanding of the game as a whole, having multiple perspectives to view the game from will help you make up lost ground. If that doesn't appeal to you, an alternative is to just pick a single character and practice them exclusively for 2-3 months at a time. After going through each of your 2-3 top choices like that, you can make a much better educated decision about which character is best for you.

 

[baka4moé]

pick peach

also even though ur impatient uve got to have solid defense, just to keep in mind i guess

 

[Bing]

I really dont understand the logic in picking Peach based on what he said...