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lolnope
So this, this and this are all inferior to this?
Well, it wasn't completely serious, but I do enjoy the original's soundtrack.
LoZ1 is a directionless mess that hasn't aged well. My friend and I sat down and played through the entire game together, but we had my laptop up with a walkthrough open the entire time. Nearly every NES era adventure game/RPG is an esoteric test of patience.
I'm not a fan of it either. Not to make myself sound like a crazed conspiracy theorist, but it puts too much control into corporate hands. For example, had MS been able to go through with their original plans for the Xbone they would be in a position where they could force consumers to buy new products but completely shutting Xbone support, effectively turning Xbones into paperweights and their games into Frisbees.
I prefer the term "gaming fan." It gets the point across without evoking images of 20something year old manchildren trading obscenities with actual children over Xbox Live.
Zelda did that already. It's called A Link to the Past.
Well, if you apply inflation it still comes out to around $60 anyway =/
Agreed, I even mentioned that in the sentence after that ALttP and the Gameboy games pretty much nailed it perfectly for me, haha. I think the 3D games are getting better at their puzzles at least. As much as I dislike Skyward Sword and even Twilight Princess to an extent, they had some creative areas. It's just everything in between the dungeons, I haven't been interested since Wind Waker days.
Funny, I only started caring about the LoZ series after Twilight Princess and didn't care for anything that came prior.
I suppose it's a matter of perspective. By the time TP came out I had been playing LoZ for what had amounted to all my life and it was just kind a "been there, done that" kind of deal.
It's not that it starts out with these levels, it's that the entire game was built using Ocarina's blueprint. Three dungeons (forest, fire, water), then plot event, Master Sword, then more dungeons. The biggest differences are that Ocarina had more dungeons after the Master Sword, and that Ocarina's part 2 dungeons are more element-based than in TP.
That's a pretty popular opinion. Almost everybody that's played ALBW loves it, or at least likes it better than the last few entries. Overall, I felt like I was playing a much weaker version of LttP, but at least it was something different from what Nintendo has been doing with the series for the last ten years.
Never used them but I hear RedBox and Gamefly are pretty good, although I suppose it's not the same.
I blame GamerGate. They don't know it, but they paint a really bad picture for video games.
There's a #NotAllGamers? Well I can already imagine it being flooded with putrid comments about how "eeeevil" SJWs are and how developers shouldn't "pander" to minorities because we all know everyone wants to play rugged 25 - 40 y/o white man who talks with his fist #2021, or sexy bombshell woman who moans with every hit.
I know! How dare they try to get corruption out of games journalism and stop censorship of artistic vision! Screw them, right?
Great strawman! 10/10 SOTY. For starters, don't try to pretend that women and minorities don't exist in video games, or that they don't have a significant role, or that they're not playable. That's simply untrue. Anyone who says otherwise is either clueless or lying. Gamers get annoyed at the PC police because they come in and try to remove everything that's not a panexual transspecies demigirl AOC (anemone of color), or failing that try to change something that already exists so that it makes them feel less insecure. We wouldn't oppose SJWs nearly as much if they'd stop trying to impose their will on everything and everyone else and make their own games if that's what they want to play. If this cult wants to play morality police, there's a problem. But if it wants to make its own culture, not too many people are going to have a problem with that.
I would rather play Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, or Prince of Persia than Super Mario World or any of the Yoshi games, but to each his own.
It started as being just about ethics, but because we dared to criticize a woman the white knights came out in force. There was also some drama and censorship led to /pol/ being involved, and when /pol/ gets involved you know things are about to get messy. :/
Eh, fair enough. GG mostly stopped having any real effect about April or July. At that point, pretty much everybody had had their say. The eternal vicitms claimed misogyny. We refuted them and gave a list of our grievances. A lot of companies pulled their ads. Some were afraid of being called misogynists, so they left them up.
Whatever you say dude.
I don't know, I've been playing Phantom Pain and that's been pretty rad.
Hyperbole, but I'm sure you understood that.
They're whole "goal" revolves around stopping the corruption in video game journalism, which, I'll be honest, is a good goal (I suppose at least). But for every one time I see that, I find 5 different **** or murder threats. What does wanting/wishing Anita Sarkeesian gets ***** have to do with game journalism? What does Doxxing people to the point that they have to evacuate their homes have to do with game journalism?
No one is saying that every game must have a diverse cast. Playing a black dude name Jaquan in Dynasty Warriors would be one of the most out of place things and if anything would take me out of the experience. But why couldn't one of the lead roles in GTA V be Asian? Or why in MMOs males have various body types, but females have varying breast sizes? Why is every military FPS told through the eyes of a guy named Irish?
Yes and no. While the most important part is to have a well written character, the race and gender still plays a large role in how relatable they are.
Agreed. Hollow Bastion and The World That Never Was are my favorite worlds.
I disagree, nearly every MMO I've ever played (and trust me, that number is in the double digits) gives me two choices: either incredibly buff (if western) or incredibly pretty (if eastern). Females tend to be in the same exact boat. Either incredibly curvy bombshells (if western) or incredibly cute petites (if eastern).
I disagree, I don't think I've ever read a book/watched a movie/played a game where I felt like a character's race and gender prevented me from relating to them or feeling empathy for whatever situation they've landed themselves in. Although to each his own.
Never said that you couldn't, how relatable a character is isn't exactly binary, but that it could make a character more relatable, at least for certain groups of people. I remember watching a podcast by The Black Hokage where they responded to the backlash of how Mafia 3's main protag is half Black half Italian (something like that), and talked about how nice it'd be if there were more black, or asian, or hispanic, etc. characters in video games that weren't just stereotypes. They were cool playing as white, middle aged men, and could relate with them well, but it'd be really nice if say the next AAA title was lead by someone else. I'll try to find the video when i have the time.
It's the 21st century. You live in a developed country. "I don't understand this" is not a valid criticism of something, especially not when you have access to the greatest information resource ever created. You have the ability to check all the sources you want. If you want to have an opinion on something, you should have an informed opinion. No other kind is worth listening to.
You haven't been paying attention to 21st century feminism. There are almost no more battles for feminism left to fight in the first world, and this really shows. Furthermore, none of them seem to be all that interested in taking the fight to places that actually could benefit from feminism, like the Middle East.
Where have you been for the entire 2000s? Every minor scandal is Whatevergate. I agree that it's a stupid name, but GG is not the start. In fact, it can be traced back to an actor that worked on Firefly. I have no idea why he injected himself into this, but at this point we had discovered enough hidden connections that "Quinnspiracy" was no longer a fitting name.
This was part of GG. When you have people ******** that a game set in medieval Europe should be diverse and trying to get it changed, those people need to be informed that they're stupid and that nobody should take them seriously.
How many anti-GG people have been doxxed? I know we've had a few of ours doxxed. A lot of them on our spaces, no less. So, how many of these doxxers are you guys, how many are us, and how many are trolls trying to prolong the lulz? Neither of us knows. I'd like to think that most of ours were done by Anti, and you want to believe that most of Anti were done by GG, but neither of us knows or even has a good guess. However, when there have been GamerGate supporters doxxed on /v/ I think it's clear that at least some of these cases have no affiliation with either side. Likewise, a lot of harassment has been attributed to GG where there has been no actual link demonstrated. In some cases, it was made up. Flynt faked some of his harassment for publicity, taking screenshots mere seconds after posting them with a different account and even forgetting to log out of his Steam account while posting fake harassment. It all showed up under his screen name, and even had the [developer] tag.
What MMOs have you played? I've played about seven at various points in my life, and I've only ever played one with a breast slider. I never stuck around long enough to make a second character, so for all I knew the male PCs had a muscle slider. All of the others either didn't allow body customization, only face, or provided a variety of body types for male and female characters.
So you have a hard time empathizing with someone who is a different race or gender than you. Got it. Oh, but you're not racist or sexist because SJWs have redefined the words so that only men can be sexist and only white people can be racist
Yes. Wanting to see equal amounts representation for a variety of cultures, ethnicities, and genders is completely ridiculous. Black kids who are tired of seeing nothing but white dudes everywhere, with anyone like them being resorted to lazy token characters? What a bunch of racists! Indian people who are sick of convenience store clerks being the only characters they can identify with on a cultural level? Damn those SJWs! Why can't everyone just get over it?
Okay, let rephrase that. I have an understanding of gamergate, I get what its goals are, but I don't care about gamer culture. Nobody should be harassed and threatened because of their gender, but while I love video game culture gamer culture is something I want to stay the **** away from.
This is what I meant when I said "misunderstand feminism." In most first world countries both genders can be whatever they want to be provided they have the skills and talents to make it so. And that's what feminism was originally about, being able to be who you want to be regardless of if you're a man or a woman (which is why I think it should be called equalism).
Examples?
I always assumed Crono was white given how Euro-inspired his game's locations are. Then again, I really doubt Toriyama put that much thought into him. Although when presented with something ambiguous went to to just project whatever we're used to seeing onto it.
You understand.
Yup, you got it! I'm actually a racist and a sexist, and my hair is an assortment of different colors.
Gameplay matters first, but there are still ideas being conveyed through video games, because in the end games are media, and media plays a large part in shaping our views. Do you really think it's not detrimental that aside from FarCry 4, the main role Indians had in video games are racist portrayals; generally a store clerk with a heavy accent? Or how, in western games, Asians are generally reserved for fighting games and given names like Kung Pao or Master Fu?
Well, that's not even close to what you said, but I'll bite. Nobody gets threats or harassment because of their gender. I've only ever witnessed one example of gender-based harassment in my 15 years of heavy gaming, and 13 years of being involved in gamer culture, and it was from a known troll. The person on the receiving end of it didn't care, we tried to kick him out and she just told us to leave it. Misogyny is far from the norm in gamer circles, and is in fact just the opposite, as anyone who's spent time with us can tell you. Don't believe everything you hear.
And who determines what a word means? Most self-described libertarians are more conservative than self-described Republicans or conservatives. Do we go by the dictionary definition, or do we use the word in its more common usage? I, and most people, use the word in its common usage when the common usage clashes with the dictionary definition. Language is meant to facilitate communication, and that method carries the highest chance that your message will be interpreted the way you intend for it to be. Oh, and the word is "egalitarianism".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_with_"-gate"_suffix
Okay, Crono was a bad example. Let's use Xianghua from Soul Calibur instead. She's Chinese, but you'd never know that just by looking at her. She's got more or less the same skin tone as Raphael (French) and her eye shape is also pretty much the same. Who can tell what real-world ethnic group Xenoblade's Homs parallel? What about Zelda's Sheikah? I think we can all agree that Shantae is Arabic, but most of the time what a character's race would be in real life is up for debate.
KimKarsmashian
I think the problem is that some people don't know how to start a constructive discussion. Case in point.Yeah, don't you remember all those kids' deaths in the 1950s? Looney Tunes had convinced the poor saps that dropping an anvil on someone's head was funny and harmless.
Examples please.
I don't play Western games that often, but most of them I do play either don't take place in the real world (or at least not a defined place in it) or are in a setting where Asian characters are inappropriate. Just off the top of my head, Deus Ex had a long segment that took place in Hong Kong.
lol this post
Iceweasel
