Westeros Mafia - Night 6 - ENDGAME - THE NORTH REMEMBERS

[redfeatherraven]

Randomly received a "late raven." Aren't all ravens supposed to be received at the beginning of the day?

Will check with the mods about this, and if it was an error that it was received late, hopefully they'll make some kind of confirmation in the thread.

Faux pas on our part.

Wolfie blames the winds being strong up north. Personally, I'm googling whether ravens can get drunk.

 

[praline]

Faux pas on our part.

Wolfie blames the winds being strong up north. Personally, I'm googling whether ravens can get drunk.

I think most animals can get drunk

 

[Coricus]

Faux pas on our part.

Wolfie blames the winds being strong up north. Personally, I'm googling whether ravens can get drunk.

redfeatherravenrumbarrel.jpg

 

[BarDulL]

Moydow Maven89

Explanations for the Shish action? You seemed to be against Holder, but it appears that it is likely you sent an alliance to him. Thoughts?

Also, what about the other part?

 

[redfeatherraven]

ersonally, I'm googling whether ravens can get drunk.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...-birds-animals-science-winter-global-warming/

Huh.

Fancy that. They can and do.

Birds, anyway. Ravens specifically, bit of a crapshoot.

redfeatherravenrumbarrel.jpg

Spoiler

Alright most ravens are a crapshoot.

 

[Maven89]

Moydow Maven89

Explanations for the Shish action? You seemed to be against Holder, but it appears that it is likely you sent an alliance to him. Thoughts?

Also, what about the other part?

We had nothing to do with Shish, and sent our alliance to you, not Holder. The mod didn’t see the PM and sent it late

 

[BarDulL]

 

[BarDulL]

Maven/Moydow, are you claiming to not be a part of the Targaryens with Shish?

 

[BarDulL]

Just double checking for clarity.

Will be thinking on the next move shortly.

 

[Maven89]

No, we are Targs. But shish is dead and we have nothing that allows us to control the dead.

Someone have the ability to make the dead preform their actions

 

[Wolfie557]

Yeah a raven was missed and not sent before results. But it got sent a bit late.

I don't see the need to publicly state this when it was clearly explained privately - but this was requested.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

 

[BarDulL]

So, of the remaining Houses:

House Targaryen - Moydow/Maven
House Baratheon - Coricus/?
House Stark - Myself/praline/Disfunkshunal
House Lannister - Nabe

By process of elimination, assuming a house has no more than 3 players, Golden must be an NPC for House Baratheon, so I don't see merit in hiding it. Sorry Coricus . Besides, Nabe already knows Disfunk is in our House, and it's likely Moydow/Maven have figured it out as well.

So, uh, since my house is 3, we can essentially win the game with only one person voting with us in a voting block. That said, my opinion on the current state of affairs is thus:

I'm pretty confused about the Shish result in Nabe's watch result. Either he is lying, or the Targaryens are lying, or somehow the Baratheons are randomly the walking dead even though Ryu just flipped as a Baratheon. We of House Stark shared no involvement in this state of affairs.

Current opinion: Nabe is fear mongering, probably. I don't think the Shish result is real. From his point of view, fear mongering to get someone killed is the best way to distract people from himself when he is an obvious lynch candidate, being alone. Can't say I blame him though; he is currently by himself. What would controlling a dead player even do, what's the point? House Stark's motives included roleblocking Holder and killing him, nothing more, nothing less. Interesting that Nabe has suggested House Stark may be responsible, but for what gain would we have to do this? Perhaps #HBC | Nabe can answer this.

The only other explanation is that Maven/Moydow sent an additional raven as part of some ability of theirs to Holder, which was related to Shish's passive Or they're somehow white walkers, but I don't believe it. It's possible, I guess.

Oh yeah, one more thing: Coricus , Nabe was responsible for killing Red Ryu. An eye for an eye, #HBC | Nabe . Nabe told me he would do this last night, believing that it was unlikely House Stark would be attacked due to our very blatantly overpowered night defense (we can talk about this post-game, lol). He knew he had a better chance of hitting your team since my team consists of a doctor, meaning we get two protections. Ergo, he has a higher chance of killing one of yours rather than one of mine.

I wanted to keep Nabe around until the end as he was very useful to us, and we have our honor as Starks (lol rp, but seriously), but his recent accusations that my House may be white walkers, as well as revealing very pertinent information related to my house, makes me not want to side with him. Despite working with him all game, he just decides to reveal all that information. Not cool.

However, that's just me talking. Perhaps my house mates feel different. We're going to be a democracy with respect to who we side with.

Let the popcorn rain from above.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'm not accusing you of being White Walkers, my dude. Don't sit there and pretend you're not capable of reading.

 

[Wolfie557]

ANNOUNCEMENT
Red Ryu is taking over GoldenBOT. Please use Red Ryu as the target for Golden's slot. (but either would work)​

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

There are only two options here.

1) Disfunk is wearing Shish like a suit. (Likely)
2) Cori's revive brings people back as an NPC working for him. (Unlikely)

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

 

[BarDulL]

There are only two options here.

1) Disfunk is wearing Shish like a suit. (Likely)
2) Cori's revive brings people back as an NPC working for him. (Unlikely)

That's cute, but isn't it more likely that Arya Stark was wearing the face of a dead dragle queen?

Oh, that's fair, I misread it. LOL!!! My b.

Eh, still not a fan of you revealing all that information earlier on, but I'll think about it. My house will have to discuss between ourselves what we intend to do.

Either way, no, Disfunk is Arya Stark, an oddly placed one shot janitor. Probably the worst role in the game. I intentionally did the kill myself because I was not interested in withholding information in an FFA. Seems counterintuitive, especially since we were going to claim that we killed Holder; we don't need to withhold information from potential allies.

 

[praline]

There are only two options here.

1) Disfunk is wearing Shish like a suit. (Likely)
2) Cori's revive brings people back as an NPC working for him. (Unlikely)

Dis is not lol

Dis didn’t even do anything last night.

 

[BarDulL]

(Yes, the janitor role activates automatically when Disfunk kills a target).

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Well, there are no White Walkers. If it's not you, it's Coricus. But it's you.

 

[praline]

Well, there are no White Walkers. If it's not you, it's Coricus. But it's you.

Who’s to say it isn’t you?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Who’s to say it isn’t you?

 

[Coricus]

So, of the remaining Houses:

House Targaryen - Moydow/Maven
House Baratheon - Coricus/?
House Stark - Myself/praline/Disfunkshunal
House Lannister - Nabe

By process of elimination, assuming a house has no more than 3 players, Golden must be an NPC for House Baratheon, so I don't see merit in hiding it. Sorry Coricus . Besides, Nabe already knows Disfunk is in our House, and it's likely Moydow/Maven have figured it out as well.

So, uh, since my house is 3, we can essentially win the game with only one person voting with us in a voting block. That said, my opinion on the current state of affairs is thus:

I'm pretty confused about the Shish result in Nabe's watch result. Either he is lying, or the Targaryens are lying, or somehow the Baratheons are randomly the walking dead even though Ryu just flipped as a Baratheon. We of House Stark shared no involvement in this state of affairs.

Current opinion: Nabe is fear mongering, probably. I don't think the Shish result is real. From his point of view, fear mongering to get someone killed is the best way to distract people from himself when he is an obvious lynch candidate, being alone. Can't say I blame him though; he is currently by himself. What would controlling a dead player even do, what's the point? House Stark's motives included roleblocking Holder and killing him, nothing more, nothing less. Interesting that Nabe has suggested House Stark may be responsible, but for what gain would we have to do this? Perhaps #HBC | Nabe can answer this.

The only other explanation is that Maven/Moydow sent an additional raven as part of some ability of theirs to Holder, which was related to Shish's passive Or they're somehow white walkers, but I don't believe it. It's possible, I guess.

Oh yeah, one more thing: Coricus , Nabe was responsible for killing Red Ryu. An eye for an eye, #HBC | Nabe . Nabe told me he would do this last night, believing that it was unlikely House Stark would be attacked due to our very blatantly overpowered night defense (we can talk about this post-game, lol). He knew he had a better chance of hitting your team since my team consists of a doctor, meaning we get two protections. Ergo, he has a higher chance of killing one of yours rather than one of mine.

I wanted to keep Nabe around until the end as he was very useful to us, and we have our honor as Starks (lol rp, but seriously), but his recent accusations that my House may be white walkers, as well as revealing very pertinent information related to my house, makes me not want to side with him. Despite working with him all game, he just decides to reveal all that information. Not cool.

However, that's just me talking. Perhaps my house mates feel different. We're going to be a democracy with respect to who we side with.

Let the popcorn rain from above.

There are only two options here.

1) Disfunk is wearing Shish like a suit. (Likely)
2) Cori's revive brings people back as an NPC working for him. (Unlikely)

Being out of the loop on politics here I'm not entirely sure what's going on, but for what it's worth on my end my revive is as of yet unspent and specifically outlines being unable to swap anyone's faction. And the only reason I hid Golden until just now is because the mods told me to keep quiet until he had a new player to take over for him proper, which has...not happened until Ryu died.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

There was nothing to hide, it was a public announcement that Golden would be an NPC.

 

[BarDulL]

I have a theory that Nabe is responsible for the gifs and messages, actually. Being isolated to only himself, he needed to fear monger the possibility of the white walkers in order to stay alive.

My evidence is the oddly placed gif in the middle of the day from Wolfie, which was mechanically uncharacteristic as a mod to do. Also, the messages Wolfie posted are clearly meant to imply that there is a possibility of white walkers, which was Nabe's intention coming into the day phase.

 

[praline]

 

[praline]

I have a theory that Nabe is responsible for the gifs and messages, actually. Being isolated to only himself, he needed to fear monger the possibility of the white walkers in order to stay alive.

My evidence is the oddly placed gif in the middle of the day from Wolfie, which was mechanically uncharacteristic as a mod to do. Also, the messages Wolfie posted are clearly meant to imply that there is a possibility of white walkers, which was Nabe's intention coming into the day phase.

That’s about the most believable thing I’ve read so far.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I have a theory that Nabe is responsible for the gifs and messages, actually. Being isolated to only himself, he needed to fear monger the possibility of the white walkers in order to stay alive.

My evidence is the oddly placed gif in the middle of the day from Wolfie, which was mechanically uncharacteristic as a mod to do. Also, the messages Wolfie posted are clearly meant to imply that there is a possibility of white walkers, which was Nabe's intention coming into the day phase.

Please go away and read or watch the flavour if you think this makes sense. I've been slaving away in the kitchen for you behind the scenes, and you say one thing, and then do another, again and again and again, and then you have the audacity to come in here and make up some literal trash? You, who kills instead of defending, and you, who lied about roleblocking Fire, and you, who has a sister cosplaying as Khaleesi.

Get lynched, scum.

 

[BarDulL]

I mean, why hadn't we received messages sooner regarding the white walkers? Why did it start becoming a more prevalent topic as the day phase progressed?

Additionally, the mods never addressed the oddly placed gif or the messages, and have not acknowledged whether or not they are simply flavor despite being asked.

I think Nabe's flip will confirm this theory, frankly.

 

[Coricus]

Well considering Nabe's the last of a faction and we have no idea how or even if we can deal with White Walkers if they are legitimate, I don't see why we couldn't just be rid of them and sort things out betwixt the remaining three factions in the night. Especially if they killed Ryu, in which case whoopsy boopsy time for the loopsy.

Vote: Nabe

 

[BarDulL]

Nabe was definitely responsible for the kill of Ryu; House Stark was responsible for Holder. Moydow Maven89 can you confirm that you did not attack Red Ryu last night?

#HBC | Nabe you will see in post-game that we never once lied to you with the exception of the Holder kill. We'll talk more afterwards.

Vote: Nabe

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

No. Every role in this game has a perfect basis in flavour. I do not have any ability to fake the White Walkers, that doesn't make any sense. Two of my housemates have flipped, and both of them flipped Lannisters, not ice zombies. Get off of me with that nonsense.

If you want to lynch me in a voting block, go right ahead, but don't **** in my cup and tell me, with honour, that it's actually urine.

 

[Maven89]

Vote: Coricus for being able to resurrect.

I know Nabe is in House Lannister, he gave us information about the House that only the House could know before it happened. he was also confirmed to be in House Lannister by the Martells, who where in an alliance with the house. They also confirmed that Nabe was with them

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ANNOUNCEMENT
Red Ryu is taking over GoldenBOT. Please use Red Ryu as the target for Golden's slot. (but either would work)​

I’m back!

 

[Coricus]

Vote: Coricus for being able to resurrect.

I know Nabe is in House Lannister, he gave us information about the House that only the House could know before it happened. he was also confirmed to be in House Lannister by the Martells, who where in an alliance with the house. They also confirmed that Nabe was with them

That's an awful good way to tilt my preference towards using the revive on Ryu and attempting to leverage numbers to ally with the Starks as opposed to using it as any kind of bargaining chip, LOL. Not that I wasn't already vastly leaning towards them in the first place just because the Starks speak up while House Tagaryen is basically tangible silence.

 

[Maven89]

I'm starting to think it's unlikely any of us are White Walkers, it's either flavor, or more likely than not some sort of NPC thing.

Holder needed two to die, interestingly enough he apparently got both of them in one night, one of whom is a dead person. Either this is the Arya facewalker, where she can remove a dead person's face to appear as someone else to preform a kill, or there's a white walker somewhere. I'm starting to think there's no White Walker, because based on the gifs, that'd imply that they were unable to preform actions until recently. Or no one noticed?

Did Holder tell anyone his role?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Coricus for being able to resurrect.

I know Nabe is in House Lannister, he gave us information about the House that only the House could know before it happened. he was also confirmed to be in House Lannister by the Martells, who where in an alliance with the house. They also confirmed that Nabe was with them

I’ve been working with them yes, what issue do you take with this other than to play against us?

 

[BarDulL]

No. Every role in this game has a perfect basis in flavour. I do not have any ability to fake the White Walkers, that doesn't make any sense. Two of my housemates have flipped, and both of them flipped Lannisters, not ice zombies. Get off of me with that nonsense.

If you want to lynch me in a voting block, go right ahead, but don't **** in my cup and tell me, with honour, that it's actually urine.

We weren't responsible for it, and the Targaryens do not lay claim to Shish's involvement either. Those messages are mechanically uncharacteristic and do not fit with the rest of the game, gif included.

Wouldn't the natural line of thought for you be that the Targaryens had something to do with it considering they are aligned with Shish? What the heck is the point of Arya dressing up as Shish to visit Holder when I intended on killing Holder himself? We roleblocked him too, and we both know you weren't going to defend him because you told me so.

The only reason why you are aiming for us is because you think by balancing out the numbers, you have a better chance.

 

[Maven89]

That's an awful good way to tilt my preference towards using the revive on Ryu and attempting to leverage numbers to ally with the Starks as opposed to using it as any kind of bargaining chip, LOL. Not that I wasn't already vastly leaning towards them in the first place just because the Starks speak up while House Tagaryen is basically tangible silence.

Is it a day revive? Cause killing you seems the best way to stop you doing that