Westeros Mafia - Night 6 - ENDGAME - THE NORTH REMEMBERS

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Maven explicitly said he targeted Ryu hoping to make our families turn on each other :laugh:

EDIT: Oh wait, I can't read. Yeah idk
 
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Ultimately my team's goal this game wasn't to deceive and manipulate people with false promises; we played it pretty straight.
Something I realized the second to last day phase is that of the then remaining houses, we had not played a role in eliminating any of their members. I started to bring it up when we were lobbying for alliances but ultimately decided against it.

Also, agreed, really enjoyed working with the other Starks. Bardull was definitely our mvp
 

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Something I realized the second to last day phase is that of the then remaining houses, we had not played a role in eliminating any of their members. I started to bring it up when we were lobbying for alliances but ultimately decided against it.

Also, agreed, really enjoyed working with the other Starks. Bardull was definitely our mvp
It's really funny. In the spectator chat, Wolfie is suggesting we manipulated everyone to do our bidding while keeping our hands clean, but it's not as simple or straightforward as that.

We had a freaking doctor and a house protect. Granted we only had 2 protects for the doctor, but it made for an extremely powerful bluff and subsequently we were never worth the risk to attack when we weren't going to kill anyone. I guarantee you everyone's impression of it was "the Starks have no reason not to defend themselves for a 2/3 protection" which is why they just carried out NKs instead towards other teams, knowing full well that we weren't a killing threat to their house. Also with our influence over the day lynch, why try to kill a team that has such strong defenses and isn't going against you at that point in time?

We also very carefully played out our relations in the day phase so as to not unnecessarily provoke other teams.
 
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Something I realized the second to last day phase is that of the then remaining houses, we had not played a role in eliminating any of their members. I started to bring it up when we were lobbying for alliances but ultimately decided against it.

Also, agreed, really enjoyed working with the other Starks. Bardull was definitely our mvp
We might have lost if Bar wasn’t in our team.
 

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Nah you guys were absolutely fantastic. You never made yourselves targets while providing me a lot of support. We stayed fairly decentralized throughout the game until it was obviously clear we were together as a house. Disfunk, your distancing from both myself and praline during the day phase was also great.

Like pretty much no one targeted you guys while I was acting as the lead voice of House Stark, so it was safe to just house protect me on n2/n3.
 

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Here’s what I’m confused about
Both of the stated points are host error.

1. Why did I receive no results at all night 1 for my track?
Holder did nothing on night one. You should have received the following result: "Holder did not target anyone."

2. Why did Red Ryu die
Other Red can't read his own sheet.

See, normally, I posted player names next to the House actions to avoid exactly this. For example, the House Baratheon action was listed as "(Red Ryu) Attack: Moydow."

But I apparently slipped and didn't tag your kill, leaving it as "House Kill: Red Ryu." Then when I was going back through, I didn't catch that in the double-check.

I believe I was mostly in a hurry, and partly a bit frazzled flying solo for the evening. Still on me, though. Sorry Ryu.
 

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I’m going to continue this discussion here since all of our PMs are being swamped

I didn’t really have a problem with the setup up at first, I mean there’s some heavy bull**** but far as I’m concerned it’s whatever, unbalanced setups have been done before, it’s annoying but it happens. But then I saw this quote from the Tyrell PMs

Well. You have a BP. Says attack is prevented. Did I mean attack as in house attack or any attack?

No idea XD. Couldn't find anything on poison wiki etc so I'll say yh it goes through if successful and kills them the next night.
And yeah, what the ****. This PM retroactively sucked all the enjoyment out of me. The mod has no idea how his own role worked? I feel like this game was being created while we were still playing it
 

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Man, I almost feel bad for Wolfie, but the boy said that I don't know how to read LOL (ok fine I confess sometimes I don't read things correctly...but come on now :( ). I think these are good criticisms and lessons overall, so he should take it positively and grow from it; we're not just saying it just to give him a hard time. That said, I have to say that he still has great ideas; I was skeptical of the Team FFA concept at the start but at the very least I feel the concept was proven to be a success. Some balancing and mechanics need to be worked out for sure but the win conditions and the day phase voting provided for a wildly different experience that is still fitting of a diplomacy game.

Anyway, for future reference, if a host wants to get their game checked to ensure it's going to be fine, I'm down. Frankly I get OCD with mafia as some of you know (I can't help it lol forum mafia is such an amazing game) and I'm trying to focus on studies for a bit anyway. Quickly double checking set ups for sensible NAR/bastardry/role balance is pretty easy for me. There are definitely other people here that can do this as well but I figured I'd put myself out there as an option since it's clear that sometimes unchecked games can lead to near-catastrophic results lol, AND I want to spectate for a bit while not having to commit my presence to the game state.

In general I 100% recommend newer/less established hosts to come forward with experimental set-ups that they aren't 100% sure of to get it checked by an experienced host/player, but again that's just my suggestion. I think most would probably agree to this. I just don't ever want to see another Night King again LOL omg...I will never forget the 24 hour night phase that occurred after the Night King reveal during D4.
 
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will never forget the 24 hour night phase that occurred after the Night King reveal during D4.
Agreed

Also, if it makes you feel any better, I think your near illiteracy** only made you a better leader. You know how they say when you lose one sense the others get stronger? I feel like every point your character lost in literacy he gained in diplomacy and leadership :p

**The preceding is intended as a joke and should not be taken as a serious opinion. The author has the utmost faith in your ability to read
 

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Oh boy, I forgot about the **** show that was the end of this game.
Everyone all excited to see all the secret roles, and then the slow burn of “wait, what?” “WHAT?”
 
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