Welcome to the #AssistAlliance: AT and Spirit Character Promotion Discussion (What Does Pass 2 Mean for Spirits or Assists?)

What characters do you think are possible to make the jump to be playable?

  • Assists

    Votes: 18 8.0%
  • Spirits

    Votes: 64 28.4%
  • Both

    Votes: 115 51.1%
  • Neither

    Votes: 28 12.4%

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fogbadge

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That’s what I have been asking for for the past 20 years (1999 - 2019).

Meowth really is loooooong overdue.
sometimes i get the feeling someone at the pokemon company is trying to send sakurai that message "Look meowth id still and anime and has a tone of new stuff in the games and is totally relevant perfect for smash" and then sakurai says "nah"


i am looking forward to the high chance of ash's pikachu and tr meowth in a gigantimax battle
 

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Meowth seems to get a more support by the Pokemon games, maybe it is a good time for Meowth to become the first ever Pokeball-to-Fighter since Charizard was.
He even gets new forms since Gen 7.

He deserved to be playable a long time ago.
 

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sometimes i get the feeling someone at the pokemon company is trying to send sakurai that message "Look meowth id still and anime and has a tone of new stuff in the games and is totally relevant perfect for smash" and then sakurai says "nah"


i am looking forward to the high chance of ash's pikachu and tr meowth in a gigantimax battle
Yes!

It is almost as if Nintendo and Pokémon Company are trying to tell Sakurai to add Toad and Meowth/Team Rocket in Smash.

Toad has been getting starring roles in main Mario games since 2009 (after Brawl) and Meowth and Team Rocket have been getting some love in Pokémon games since 2016 (after SSB4).

And Sakurai stubbornly refuses to add Toad and Meowth/Team Rocket.
 

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Yes!

It is almost as if Nintendo and Pokémon Company are trying to tell Sakurai to add Toad and Meowth/Team Rocket in Smash.

Toad has been getting starring roles in main Mario games since 2009 (after Brawl) and Meowth and Team Rocket have been getting some love in Pokémon games since 2016 (after SSB4).

And Sakurai stubbornly refuses to add Toad and Meowth/Team Rocket.
and im willing to bet those roles arent gonna diminish any time soon
 

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And Sakurai stubbornly refuses to add Meowth/Team Rocket.
Blame Sakurai's recent tendencies with Pokemon newcomers. However, if A. They want to make another Pokemon playable via DLC and B. They're sticking to the "new demographics" stuff, we can't really get Greninjaroar 3.0. This wouldn't guarantee that Meowth would be playable, but still.
 

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Blame Sakurai's recent tendencies with Pokemon newcomers. However, if A. They want to make another Pokemon playable via DLC and B. They're sticking to the "new demographics" stuff, we can't really get Greninjaroar 3.0. This wouldn't guarantee that Meowth would be playable, but still.
This right here is a good point. We all want change as far as how Pokemon characters are picked. Than the same recent characters all the time.
 

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with pokemon dont we have nine fan favourites?
It's undeniable that there are fan favorites on the roster. But in order for a Pokemon to somewhat fit the concept of attracting a new audience, Sakurai (or Nintendo if they're picking it) should consider something that's not one of the new fully-evolved starters. Established popularity also seems to be an important criteria for DLC characters, as PP and Corrin are the only ones that aren't based on that.
 
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It's undeniable that there are fan favorites on the roster. But in order for a Pokemon to somewhat fit the concept of attracting a new audience, Sakurai (or Nintendo if they're picking it) should consider something that's not one of the new fully-evolved starters. Established popularity also seems to be an important criteria for DLC characters, as PP and Corrin are the only ones that aren't based on that.
but surely by similar reasoning adding in newer pokemon is a way to attract newer pokemon fans to smash?
 

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but surely by similar reasoning adding in newer pokemon is a way to attract newer pokemon fans to smash?
Maybe "new audience" isn't as good of a term as "different audience from Sakurai's more recent Pokemon picks".
 
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so what you're saying is that he should appeal to a completely different audience than what he is doing?
Consider the days in which Pokemon did get multiple newcomers per game:
:pikachu64::jigglypuff64:
:pichumelee::mewtwomelee:
:pt::lucario:
The two newcomers each game got invoke the feeling of appealing to different crowds each. And if pra_mai happened to actually be Plusle and Minun, that'd be appealing to a different crowd than PT and Lucario.
 

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Consider the days in which Pokemon did get multiple newcomers per game:
:pikachu64::jigglypuff64:
:pichumelee::mewtwomelee:
:pt::lucario:
The two newcomers each game got invoke the feeling of appealing to different crowds each. And if pra_mai happened to actually be Plusle and Minun, that'd be appealing to a different crowd than PT and Lucario.
thing is though the smash team probably see any pokemon character as appealing to the whole pokemon crowd and dont think of them as separate groups of people who stopped playing the games years ago but still have nostalgia for them, newcomers to the series who would be more familiar to the newer pokemon and those of us who have stuck with the games through out and have favourites in each gen

thus far though weve got 6 who are in on popularity, 2 cases of roster padding who are also popular, 1 whos popularity rose after smash(or due to smash) so we havent done that bad
 
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Hopefully, this'll put a smile on some folks' faces.
 
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Hopefully, this'll put a smile on some folks' faces.
I was interested in seeing what The Last Story would get if it were to be revived. but after seeing the terra battle story for it i just wished Zael and Calista kept their happy ending.
 
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Hopefully, this'll put a smile on some folks' faces.
geez it even been that long since our last chibi-robo or rhythm paradise
 

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Hopefully, this'll put a smile on some folks' faces.
I would argue that some of these series are not dead, especially money makers like Brain Age.

But it is a decent result for the fans of these beloved dead series. F-Zero, Golden Sun, Sin & Punishment, Starfy, and many others did not do too bad.
 

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Hopefully, this'll put a smile on some folks' faces.
Tomato Adventure has no votes

the biggest Oof
 

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I made a subtle change to the OP. Whoever guesses it right will get a cookie.

Or be the one to help decide what it should look like. A new year means a time to strike with stronger force.

Pass 2 is the sky and there is a small chance we pass past this limit. Only time will tell.
 
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