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[Missing Person]

One more question: Who is Joey? I keep seeing his name posted, but I haven't figured out who Joey is.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Joey is masq, his username used tobe jo_oey or something like that

 

[Missing Person]

Okay, now I think I'm up to speed with some of the familiarities that everyone has over here.

Still working through the thread. On page 7, will probably post my first instincts when I hit page 11 or 12.

 

[Missing Person]

I'm just quoting these in order of me seeing them. Sorry if it doesn't make any sense, but eventually you'll see why I'm voting for Orboknown/FullMetalLynch as I go on.

Yeah, this will be really long, since I'm replacing in. But I want to give my concise thoughts on what I see so everyone gets answers and maybe some correct lynches later with the right pushes.

Not a fan of you disliking Ranmaru for his initial push on Keybladeguy but also voting Keybladeguy for the same reasoning Ranmaru pushed Keybladeguy for within his more recent posts.

Also, "Ranmaru second pick"? Do you think Keybladeguy is scum #1 and Ranmaru is scum #2?

Vote: -Masquerain-

This is something I get. I'm not a fan of someone jumping a bandwagon going "I hate you, but I think the same thing as you without ever acknowledging it."

It looks like an attempt to agree while trying to distance himself from someone. Like the child molester relative at the family reunion that no one wants to be around, but they begrudgingly agree with him when he brings up a valid point while never even saying his name.

dabuz what does this question net you?

This is where Orboknown popped up on my radar, right here. I've seen this inane question asked a few times, but most just take it as a joke but move on. Orbo just seems...defensive.

I used the same ploy once in a game where mafia could recruit one member pre-game, as mafia. While others were playing hypotheticals, asking people "Who would you have recruited if you were mafia?" I told them "Like hell I'd play this game, civ or mafia." I later got lynched, flipped scum.

So yeah, this play strikes me. Almost like challenging such an inane question makes him look totally clean. There was no real reason to press this question IMO, as there's such a slim sliver of a chance that mafia would be so dumb as to actually ask that question in the first place.

If Ranmaru is scum, KBG is definitely town.

And when Ranmaru flipped town, then how did that change your opinion on KeybladeGuy if at all?

If this is asked later when I get there, I'll delete this.

its ez if zen flips traitor he gave us his two scummates

gg ez game lets lynch zen

This makes me think the Zen kill was a way to dirty up YOLO. Whether that dirt was to make it look too obvious for him to be mafia or whether it was a way to cast dirt to make him a lynch target later is above me yet. I don't know how any of you play, I don't know who the vets are, so I don't know who is capable of making reverse psychology plays behind the scenes.

I'll stay 50/50 on YOLO/WL as of this post.

How does that help you? I don't believe a single person answered it, is that telling of anything?

Related to dabuz's question still. I believe you actually did.

Ranscum is lost becaus ehe can't scumhunt. I would think that as traitor he could push himself to go onto his scummates. I wouldn't say he was hardbussing or anything because he's shifted off of KB completely since then and gone onto me(for whatever reason)
and joey after joey called him scum.

Okay, here's the kicker, he starts looking to push what we know is a confirmed civ under the bus and he's the one operating the gear shift at this point.

I don't know what's up here. I don't see too big a flaw in Ran's rush to judge KBG's slip-up. I see the fault in him jumping ship too much too early, but I don't really get a mafia read from it (but I'm looking at this in hindsight.) But in a game where people can publicly change votes up until deadline, this is something convenient people can latch onto to start bandwagons.

Ran looks like a clueless civ to me though that's kneejerking every time someone casts suspicion or a lynch vote his way and retaliates with a revenge vote. I think mafia instincts would be to hold off, unless he was a total newb, then he might do it without knowing what to do. I'm just trying to remind myself that at this point I wouldn't have known the results.

And yet another problem in Orbo's line that I see: He's judging Ranmaru for casting doubt on KBG, yet never having voted for him, while even at that point Orbo had voted and re-voted. Can't judge someone for the speck in their eye when you've got enough dust in yours to fill a Dirt Devil.

To be fair, Ran, in response to your #2 up there, I've seen Orbo just kinda flip on stuff because someone else showed him the light, all with no explanation. He did it in Golden Sun, where he was my hydra partner, and we were town. Someone said something to change his read on someone (I forget who it was), and he just flipped on it right away without a word about why to anyone. Not even me, his hydra partner.

So he's one of those then.

That makes an interesting read then. Was he civ in that game?

Didn't read as a gutell with how seemingly aggro you pushed it as..

And yet similar aggro was performed on Dabuz. How convenient that was omitted.

And at this point, you hadn't voted for him.

​

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He's not town in the slightest.​

And yet he is. I think this might be the guy trying to get under the radar with a Zen night kill.

I don't.. really know how to answer that.

I guess the biggest thing I'm changing about how I normally approach the game is trying to find townies I trust to bounce things off of. I usually just go with my own reads above all else, and trust nobody. I guess it's burned me a few times, because I'm clearly not perfect.

This is something that doesn't sit quite right with me. Especially announcing it. How are you going to find trusted civs when everyone now knows that you're ISO trusted civ BFFs? Everyone tries to warm up to you and you're still at square one. Unless you already know who those "trusted civs" are and can find them asap.

"I try not to be careless with my vote...

I am not certain of Ranmaru scum. If I was, I'd be voting him.

Okay, wait, hold the phone here. You were very quick to vote KBG, yet say you're careful with your vote. You also said "If Ran's mafia, then KGB's town for sure," but don't have the cajones to go with that read, and your one vote (which you unvoted) went the opposite way.

Way too many contradictions for my liking. I may have to change my vote later if I get to the current page without anything assuaging my doubts in you. That's not to say I think FML is clean, but I definitely think keeping you in right this very moment would be a fatal mistake.

That hard over that little? Seemed to
much for the beginning of the game. Felt off.

Still playing very "pot meet kettle" IMO.



Just finished page 8. Not sure what to make of the Zen/YOLO battle over there. Posting this because I'm getting tired of Copy/Pasting from page to page.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

-Masquerain- is joey.

 

[Missing Person]

I'm currently in a coin toss in my brain between Masquerain and FML.

Considering people are leaning toward FML, I'm staying there for now to avoid the no lynch. If Masquerain gets a following to be lynched, I'm willing to look into switching for now. But IMO, both will most likely show mafia on death. So it's a matter of who's the biggest threat if they're both mafia, of which I'm not sure of without knowing anything about the mafia community here.

My gut instinct is Masquerain would be. FML didn't seem as coordinated when he subbed in, but I'm willing to follow on this one, albeit with some pushing of my own.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Interesting way to look at Joey.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

i really give no ****s about potato's play in tandem to ruy's here. i tend to try not to compare one player to another as everyone's meta is unique. ruy's play is 100% dislikable and if pjb takes off the blinders, he should see that.

Because I made an assumption before I read the game who was likely to make the shot off just a summary I was given?

And then I stuck to it when I read the game because it was, surprise, likely to have happened.

There is no obvious shot, being get balzy and make calls that don't make sense but they have a reason for it.

Scum in KBG, MP, BW, Joey, and Vinyl is something you got to consider because I doubt 3 of the 4 people posting are scum. Fortunately MP is gonna be posting here a lot, joye might as well. KBG is off and on.

People I worry about hiding and prod dodging regardless of alignment are Vinyl and BW.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Ruy is your bro, he wants to work with you, he doesn't like FML from D1 and from his back and forth with PJB, why is that TvT FML was trying to push it away from him and not trying to make it about trying to make his reads expand. Yes only PJB was responding to him, but expanding his reads he did not.

I hate his reads he posted to me, he has no solid reads and I don't buy ran flipping town is why. That means he didn't consider alternatives if he was wrong and what to look at, aka he is scum and didn't care who you lynch.

Ewww no Ryu, you know me and Orbo looked at it the TownRan side, don't be dense, but our reads were less developed from that side as we've self admitted. We just had too many eggs in the Ranscum basket, like I said.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ewww no Ryu, you know me and Orbo looked at it the TownRan side, don't be dense, but our reads were less developed from that side as we've self admitted. We just had too many eggs in the Ranscum basket, like I said.

Your wrong on me being scum, where then?

What about my posts to Joey on the "what I think of what my slot did before"

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I'll be posting sporadically, but I should be able to coalesce with Orbo later to address Missing Persons points.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Someone explain to me why people view fml as scum. Because he was wrong about ran who was, surprise, also wrong? Gonna need more than that.

Ruy, I don't like the fact you focused on the night kill straight away despite claiming to read. It reads to me the same as some guy randomly popping up and saying so and so's an indy and we need to lynch him. I see where you're coming from but conversely look at the list of players, strike of people who are inactive or likely doc protects and lemme know who's left.

Also riddle me this: if fml thought ran was scum, why was ran shot? Who were ran's scumpicks after zen anyway?

MP how much experience do you have?

I simply don't like fml as the scumpick, I think pjb is town, mp's leaving a good impression. Of the active players, that leaves ruy as scum. We're gonna dive deep through 5 inactives probably to find two scum (cause if two scum are active, scum is pretty ****ed) and that's a nightmare.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

ebwop:

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Ruy is your bro, he wants to work with you, he doesn't like FML from D1 and from his back and forth with PJB, why is that TvT FML was trying to push it away from him and not trying to make it about trying to make his reads expand. Yes only PJB was responding to him, but expanding his reads he did not.

I hate his reads he posted to me, he has no solid reads and I don't buy ran flipping town is why. That means he didn't consider alternatives if he was wrong and what to look at, aka he is scum and didn't care who you lynch.

Also this is horsehit. What do hyou expect the guy to do, take his lynch and let it happen? He's doing everything he can to try to be helpful and none of you guys have done much to help that slot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Someone explain to me why people view fml as scum. Because he was wrong about ran who was, surprise, also wrong? Gonna need more than that.

Ruy, I don't like the fact you focused on the night kill straight away despite claiming to read. It reads to me the same as some guy randomly popping up and saying so and so's an indy and we need to lynch him. I see where you're coming from but conversely look at the list of players, strike of people who are inactive or likely doc protects and lemme know who's left.

Also riddle me this: if fml thought ran was scum, why was ran shot? Who were ran's scumpicks after zen anyway?

MP how much experience do you have?

I simply don't like fml as the scumpick, I think pjb is town, mp's leaving a good impression. Of the active players, that leaves ruy as scum. We're gonna dive deep through 5 inactives probably to find two scum (cause if two scum are active, scum is pretty ****ed) and that's a nightmare.

Ahem.

FML is L-1. Slow down, I am taking time to make a case on Zen because i'm most confident in Zen going toDay. If at that time no one is convinced, then I'm fine with going towards Orbo.

Ran didn't like Orbo either.

They had every reason to shoot him as scum if Ran pulled tunnel mode again.

Cant believe he didnt post a catch up of his own or even give a reason for any of his reads. I expected more posts from him. What exactly did he say?

He's at work too guys.

So he rushed a vote while at work? Why not wait until he could fully explain his feels in thread.

How is it rushing?

By skimming the thread and voting/giving without reason while at work. That is rushing to me.

Stop imposing artificial bull**** you believe onto every one else.

Im sorry for speaking my thoughts? How about you tell me how that isn't rushing.

Because it's a vote that has reasoning to it. Rushing the vote would be if it was just thrown out there with nothing to it. Why don't you explain why its scummy? You're misinterpreting a lot of things and getting a lot of wrong terms in.[/COLOR]

Can you quote the reasoning?

Zens case plus rake gut over a couple posts he saw. He didn't mention which.

This is what I don't like about FML.

There is no reason for them to react this harsh like this. This defensive kind of play has been going for that day phase and it continued. Ran flipped town, woop de do, he's got nothing after that but one semi solid scum read on my slot, otherwise he throws out a maybe to every other read he has,

Quickhitter Reads:

Town
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Joker
Masq

Null Town
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Yolo
Vinyl
KBG
(leaning towards dumbtown; Slight town leans on gut and dumbtown feel)

Null
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Vocal

Null Scum
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Dabuz
Soup (been waffling recently; Need to see other people's thoughts on him)

To

dabuz's push on zen going all out wasn't something townbunz would do fopov. the fact zen flipped town and dabuz only got on him late in the day is a nice red flag.
Soup we're unsure about which is why we've been asking for opinions and the why's behind them.
Yolo is likely town but can never be sure withmarshy and kev.
KBG/Vinyl/Vocal all either null or not here.
Joey is probably town, haven't thought this over recently with rake but his thoughts matching mine fairly well is a good indicator of it to me.

So he leaves plenty of wiggle room for him to change if need be.

and,

Plus, as Orbo said, look at Marshy reconsidering, he's actually entertaining the idea of badtown FML or so it appears.

So i mean cmon, think about it.

Even look at Scott Pilgirm, me and Orbo got hated on for being "bad " or terrible or w/e based on ARGUABLY bad play at points, but it was town abd, and in the end we pinned down 4/5 scummers in our reads in 1 dayphase.

The same is happening here, Orbo / Me do some questionable **** but we're fully quantified in our reasons for it and will defend em to the death. Jst as before.

I'm not saying we've nailed down scum yet, but with the Zenstraction out of the way i feel pretty good about it, even though we lost the researcher I'm not that worried.

Ran's aggro play was barely helpful or useful, and all he managed to do was miscall zen and myself, so the best he was gonna achieve is misusing his pr.

Dabuz and Soupslot present real opportunity here, maybe Marshy like Ryu said, but im not sure. Prolly gonna take a look there.

Plus then there's the inactive problem: Vocal and Keyblade guy: where do they fall and what do we do about them ?


I really kinda dread vocal being replaced because replacements kill towns momentum a lot of the time.

So again, cmon Joker, help me and I'll help you. It's not like you have to stop scum reading me, we can work together with you being Senoir Suspicions, i really dont care how if we do it, but dont be a Ranmaru who gets so stuck in and blinded by his own reads that he ignores the obvious, or anything else to some extent

tries to justify his play on an event he got lynched in a game for, and then keep the doors open.

I'm not buying the eggs in one basket, after D1 despite the bull**** wall trading that happened. There was something to read people on, I got a solid town read on Marshy/Kev off page 9 because Marshy showed foresight of his thoughts in the thread as they progressed, how his reads changed.

There is something to read off that, but they leave him as "eh could be either or" even as a likely town. There is no confidence, he is being careful in his reads when he has no reason to be.

I didn't tunnel him into death, I read his interaction with PJB and didn't like how he handled the situation. PJB going tunnel mode? Ok, but he doesn't try to address him on issues PJB brought up, he tried to drown it out in a back and forth talk battle.

~

Back to the me stuff.

Yolo/Ran/Soup were likely shots, not me or joey. Doc protect more likely on Yolo yes, but I could see balzy shots going there.

Yes there was more likely shots not at the inactives, no I do not think it was an obvious shot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also this is horsehit. What do hyou expect the guy to do, take his lynch and let it happen? He's doing everything he can to try to be helpful and none of you guys have done much to help that slot.

This is bull.

I asked him some questions relating to his reads and have kept pressing him on this, he has every opportunity to change my mind.

How has he been trying to expand the thread more?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ok, catching up today and tomorrow, should have full reads and such by then.

Proding you via quote notification.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Give them thoughts and vote fullmetal.

Hi I asked you why you want Full metal would like an answer.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Still so I'll get back to the longer post in a bit. Did wanna say that your argument falls through at that point cause a smarter scum, hell, scumFML wouldn't make the shot at ran in that position. If fml is scum (big if), why would you willingly put yourself in a worse situation with town already breathing down your neck? You have at least one inactive on your team at best. Unless soup is scum with him, then I don't see fml shooting ran with the logic you presented.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Still so I'll get back to the longer post in a bit. Did wanna say that your argument falls through at that point cause a smarter scum, hell, scumFML wouldn't make the shot at ran in that position. If fml is scum (big if), why would you willingly put yourself in a worse situation with town already breathing down your neck? You have at least one inactive on your team at best. Unless soup is scum with him, then I don't see fml shooting ran with the logic you presented.

How does shooting Ran put him in a worse situation over better?

Shooting one of Yolo/Ran/Soup, if he is town, helps him out.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Sorry guys, I'll be in here tomorrow. Lots of **** happened and I wasn't able to put it off. Family **** out the ass. I'll read/give reads/be amazing tomorrow.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Done college and omw home.
Will post after required reading is slammed and report is written

I'll try to pop in during with some quick hitters

/rake out for now

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

-snip-

I didn't like the exchange you quoted but I have no idea of the context of it. Given that Ran was agreeing to go onto a fallback of that slot+hearing Marshy and even Soup wanting that lynch as well, I would think one would be a little frustrated? I dunno. I haven't read it myself and I'm simply going off hearsay, so I can't really make that judgment, just witness obviously biased statements in a game full of inactives.

You guys keep pushing me into this corner and at some point I feel like I have to actually read D1 even though I feel like it could've been skipped and I really don't have the time to sink in. **** you guys.

I simply don't agree with terms like "wiggle room", not in this game. Again, my perspective is missing 3/4 of the game up to this point, so hear me out and understand my points, but given that KBG, Vocal, Vinyl, and dabuz were prod-dodgers, Joey's got a life, Marshy and Kevin probably weren't invested, and Zen was Zen, how much do you have in the way of certainty in this game? It's riddled with inactives, its most vocal player died in the night, and the only other people really capable of leading a town to victory both replaced out in a matter of a couple of days. I mean, ****, Ran jumped between four targets before finally settling on one.

Seriously, do me a favor and go back and actually read what he's saying with the bias off. I honestly feel he's being ignored, but then given that the active players are you, me, PJB, and himself, with Joey and MP in the background, he's got this problem where half the game isn't giving him the time of day. Anyone, town or scum, is going to look for wiggle room out of a lynch and I don't see his play as sinister for it.

Back to the me stuff.

Yolo/Ran/Soup were likely shots, not me or joey. Doc protect more likely on Yolo yes, but I could see balzy shots going there.

Yes there was more likely shots not at the inactives, no I do not think it was an obvious shot.

So why, if FML is scum, would he shoot the most active player in the game that had him as his second lynch choice instead of Joey or Soup? I just don't see that fitting into scum's gameplan, not for a team that has to hold someone that you think is "smart enough" to shoot Ran when that's really the only shot. Your argument fails here and yet you keep coming back to it.

Back in awhile.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

ebwop: seriously you guys keep looking at textbook examples of scummy play without analyzing his play as a whole to find the sinister actions underneath. you're looking at the actions to find the means. that's wrong. look at the means, then find the actions.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

How does shooting Ran put him in a worse situation over better?

Shooting one of Yolo/Ran/Soup, if he is town, helps him out.

Because it's transparently removing someone as a threat to you and that's suspicious. Hell, you even had FML on your list of people smart enough to take that shot.

I mean, ****, shooting FML is perfect for a scumteam that can allow him to take the fall for it. Honestly I feel that the only way FML flips scum as a result of it is because he was set up to take a bus.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

This is bull.

I asked him some questions relating to his reads and have kept pressing him on this, he has every opportunity to change my mind.

How has he been trying to expand the thread more?

He's been asking about Soup's slot constantly. No one's answered anything, even being told so far as to "bounce ideas off your own hydra partner". No one's buying a damn thing he says, no one's answering questions, nothing. He's looking for other options, yes, because he doesn't want to be lynched. Surprise, that's not scummy play. If you want to convince me he's scum, you need to detail where his sinister motives come from.

 

[Missing Person]

MP how much experience do you have?

I have 5 games played among SRK players, 1 of which was an All Star game on there. I have one game in which I hosted.

They play differently over there, but the core of reading through BS and pushing suspects remains the same.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

He's been asking about Soup's slot constantly. No one's answered anything, even being told so far as to "bounce ideas off your own hydra partner". No one's buying a damn thing he says, no one's answering questions, nothing. He's looking for other options, yes, because he doesn't want to be lynched. Surprise, that's not scummy play. If you want to convince me he's scum, you need to detail where his sinister motives come from.

His bad reactions to pressure and questions? He's been acting like he is guilty to people throwing suspicion on him.

FYI people voters them after that exchange I posted not before it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I have 5 games played among SRK players, 1 of which was an All Star game on there. I have one game in which I hosted.

They play differently over there, but the core of reading through BS and pushing suspects remains the same.

so "relatively new"

cool

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

His bad reactions to pressure and questions? He's been acting like he is guilty to people throwing suspicion on him.

FYI people voters them after that exchange I posted not before it.

how

I've been reading that slot. I disagree with all sentiments that suggest this but I don't personally see how FML is doing so. I see a lot of trap generalizations being spewed about him without specifically saying how they apply or pointing out where the scummy intent is. I just see stupid, tired old **** like "he's been dodging ****" (he's not), "he's trying to wiggle out of his lynch" (who wouldn't?), "he's not answering anything" (he is), "he's not trying to put a lynch anywhere" (whaddafuk), etc., etc., etc. I've heard a lot of stupid tired **** and I haven't once been showed why he's scummy. Hell, at one point, despite FML trying his best to push towards dabuz/you and asking questions about soup/badwolf, PJB literally told him point blank "stop trying to convince me of a lynch I don't agree with" after being told "you're not doing anything."

This is 100% stereotypical lynch mob mentality and I'm not joining in on it. If you want me to believe he's scum, get some actual ****ing reasons instead of picking blatant textbook scummy play and not following up on why it applies.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Going to reread him now just to assure myself on this.

No one looking at how Ruy entered the game is very depressing as well. If nothing else, I would want FML, MP, and PJB to comment on it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I'm only on page 5 but calling it now why Ran was shot, he was a safe shot that after butting heads with Zen left town with nothing, which limits down who is leading the scum team down by a lot, at most 3 candidates to call that shot.

Like, seriously. This is such a stupid assumption to make. Saying "man, he's really the only target" and then saying "only three people are smart enough to realize that" is completely nonsensical.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Soup, you and Yolo.

Others could make the call but I'm thinking if a leadership position.

But really, why isn't it Soup? You've deflected really ****ing hard away from that subject despite me bringing up that that's the only really sensible idea to me right now. Why not Soup? Why do you keep dodging that question?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

/replace out

More details about that in the Social thread. Anyways, I'm town. The sudden backlash against me because Zen got himself lynched is part of a reason why I'm actually stoked to not have to deal with this thread. I think PJB's actions are far too cautious for his own good and I have noticed a tendency for him to only appear at intervals when either a wagon is forming or there is a sudden agreement on things. He hasn't taken the initiative to do anything for himself and I don't believe that him wanting to be more preserved is a credible enough excuse for being a blatant sheep. I also dislike Dabuz, but my reasons are kind of dull and dried out at this point, considering there was a massive DDoS that lasted about two weeks, which can do that to a person. I believe his suspicion of Zen was fabricated and that he wouldn't be likely to push something so fervently as town, more or less be confident about Zen in the way that he was. I think FML is still garbage too.

Sorry, I don't have anything else.

But really why not Soup?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

No it was made with the knowledge Ran pushed Zen before I finished my read and thinking who would be more likely to say shoot Ran after he did that.

**** like this is messing with it though. this changes the nature of it but i still don't ****ing know why you latched onto this and kept talking about it without backing it up with actual ****ing play to support a hypothesis like this. just making the blanket statement "only a smart person would shoot this" and then not look directly into these three slots and put **** up to validate it. you waffled on my slot, whatever, but you still have yet to talk about soup. why

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Also Ran really didn't have that much thread sway from my POV; It was moreso spearheaded by marshy and soup to some extent, and they just happened to agree with Ran, giving him sway by proxy at best

This is questionable, but then I'd have to read to clarify for myself. ****.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

theres three people posting! what èle am i supposed to be focused on? im going to do what i can while the game picks back up

literally **** like this is what he's been doing for a majority of what i've read. he's trying but it's not good enough for your ridiculous standards, i guess. tunnel vision too stronk

 

[Vinylic.]

Hi I asked you why you want Full metal would like an answer.

Nah.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Nah.

man ****ing vinyl

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I like PJB more with recent posts.

Vote: FML

I'm game.

all he's done is tunnel harder and harder what the ****