vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Rajam that is a terrible strategy. Only scum would suggest a game plan that bad mirite?
Unvote Vote: Rajam
Unvote Vote: Rajam
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Villains Mafia - X1-12 lynched! Town wins! X1-12, Indie survivor, wins a bit less!
- Thread starter Overswarm
- Start date
M.K
Level 55
It's not entirely no voting. Certain conditions have to happen >____> FAWK YHU OS.
Rajam
Smash Champion
who is Tinky Winky?
obv scum
obv scum
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
@Van
I say in the middle, like 36 hours per prod personally. It's more fair than 24, but less leniant than 48, especially since we have J
.
I say in the middle, like 36 hours per prod personally. It's more fair than 24, but less leniant than 48, especially since we have J
.
Xivii
caterpillar feet
I think MK should elaborate lol. Might
as well get rid of you now if that's the case.
Van true, but this is OS we are talking about.
as well get rid of you now if that's the case.
Van true, but this is OS we are talking about.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
@Rajam
Cool.
Claim: Sc... uh... Town.
Like that?
I don't wanna look into MK's restriction until necessary, i.e when it's time to lynch and MK isn't voting.
Cool.
Claim: Sc... uh... Town.
Like that?
I don't wanna look into MK's restriction until necessary, i.e when it's time to lynch and MK isn't voting.
M.K
Level 55
Might as well claim it now so people don't get mad at me later for it.
I can only vote somebody who has their vote on me. If that person unvotes after I vote them, I'm allowed to keep it on.
So yeah, basically got stuck with the dumbest restriction ever.
I can only vote somebody who has their vote on me. If that person unvotes after I vote them, I'm allowed to keep it on.
So yeah, basically got stuck with the dumbest restriction ever.
Xivii
caterpillar feet
@mod: were roles randomly selected?
Rajam
Smash Champion
Activate: Doomsday (3)
kupo!
kupo!
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Oh wow MK that seems dumb.
Also FOS: Rajam Xsyven for ignoring my questions
@Zen stop skimming the OP please
@Mod: Request Vote Count
Also FOS: Rajam Xsyven for ignoring my questions
@Zen stop skimming the OP please
@Mod: Request Vote Count
Xivii
caterpillar feet
Dam that's sucky MK. Hope for some OMGUS I guess?
So Gordito and MK onto D2.
X1 and J can go.
So Gordito and MK onto D2.
X1 and J can go.
Rajam
Smash Champion
@vanderzant: I played Chrono Trigger and Tales of Symphonia. Despite I did great at those games, somehow I still lost 
. I'm also playing Mario Kart now
. I'm also playing Mario Kart now
You guys are all screwed, I got MK LOL.
To answer your question, this is like the 5th game I've played.
vOTE: x1-12
copy cat
To answer your question, this is like the 5th game I've played.
vOTE: x1-12
copy cat
Xivii
caterpillar feet
On PSPnet, I didn't realize it was there. I'll check later.
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
@Zac/Rajam what do you think of MK's claimed posting restriction?
Rajam
Smash Champion
Seems true specially since this is an OS game
Rajam
Smash Champion
ok this game is super slow so, let's lynch inactives
vote: EdreesesPieces
Zac, what advises did your partners give you for this game?
vote: EdreesesPieces
Zac, what advises did your partners give you for this game?
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Rajam, was that a joke?
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
No I mean like how Meta Kirby acted with regards to his restriction. What do you think about that?
This is my 7th mafia game.
Vanderzant: Hi. I think meta is useful in addition to reads. you look at your first on someone based on their play first, then, if you are 'unsure" you can apply meta to tip the balance. Meta can be useful or dangerous, just make sure you got your meta straight before using it to make major choices.
Meta kirby - what happens if you try to vote for someone else that your not allowed to, do you get penalized or does it simply not count?
Vanderzant: Hi. I think meta is useful in addition to reads. you look at your first on someone based on their play first, then, if you are 'unsure" you can apply meta to tip the balance. Meta can be useful or dangerous, just make sure you got your meta straight before using it to make major choices.
Meta kirby - what happens if you try to vote for someone else that your not allowed to, do you get penalized or does it simply not count?
All joke-voting aside, I'm seriously voting J.
vote: J
He's been super inactive in oddworld mafia, and completely distracting. We're stuck talking about his inactivity instead of scumhunting. That whole game was pissed when they saw him actively signing up for games while ignoring the one he was in.
vote: J
He's been super inactive in oddworld mafia, and completely distracting. We're stuck talking about his inactivity instead of scumhunting. That whole game was pissed when they saw him actively signing up for games while ignoring the one he was in.
M.K
Level 55
I get penalized. Not sure what that penalty is, however. Seems its at OS's discretion looking at the Special Rules.
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Pushing on inactives with a vengeance already? I agree with the mentality, but there is a time and place. And right now we're about 2 hours into the game...
Overswarm
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Vote Count:
Sir Bedevere (1) - GorditoBoy69
Zen (1) - J
Xsyven (1) - Sir Bedevere
Dastrn (1) - Xsyven
Rajam (1) - Vanderzant
X1-12 (2) - Zen, UTDZac
EdreesesPieces (1) - Rajam
J (1) - Dastrn
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, Oct. 6th, at 3:00 p.m. EST
Sir Bedevere (1) - GorditoBoy69
Zen (1) - J
Xsyven (1) - Sir Bedevere
Dastrn (1) - Xsyven
Rajam (1) - Vanderzant
X1-12 (2) - Zen, UTDZac
EdreesesPieces (1) - Rajam
J (1) - Dastrn
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, Oct. 6th, at 3:00 p.m. EST
Yes, as stated in the main post.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
That should answer your question. Lol.
Rajam
Smash Champion
Null read mostly, but I don't see anything scummy about it
Also, about your question:
"@Rajam: Hi. Are there any players in this game who you've played with enough to get a good feel of their alignment? What do you think of meta in general?"
I've played with UTDZac, EdreesesPieces, X1-12, Zen, and M-K. I've played one game with them except for Edreeses and Zac with which I've played twice. Meta is an acceptable strategy to check, read and pressure players, but just that: something barely acceptable and not the main focus. For example, Edreeses as scum tends to agree with everything and look very friendly, post a bunch of nice words with no real effect or anything, so I'd be wary about that.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
@Van
I agree, but when J decides to go into his la la land inactive world, you'll get pissed too. Don't worry.
@Dastrn
I agree with wanting to pressure J into voting, but let's wait till he goes inactive (don't worry, it's inevitable).
I agree, but when J decides to go into his la la land inactive world, you'll get pissed too. Don't worry.
@Dastrn
I agree with wanting to pressure J into voting, but let's wait till he goes inactive (don't worry, it's inevitable).
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Actually I'd like to see everyone answer this question. I think it's relevant:
And I mean in terms of Meta Kirby the player, not in terms of trying to meta OS.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
EBWOP:
pressure J into POSTING, not voting.
@Van
I think it's really safe for MK to say that (giving him an easy OMGUS, and ALMOST not allowing him to vote at all), but I'm not gonna think about it too much at this point.
pressure J into POSTING, not voting.
@Van
I think it's really safe for MK to say that (giving him an easy OMGUS, and ALMOST not allowing him to vote at all), but I'm not gonna think about it too much at this point.
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Ninja'd
@Rajam: thanks for the answers.
@Gord: If J starts to blatantly prod dodge, yes we can lynch him. But I don't like the idea of metaing someone based on another ongoing game (on activity of all things) where J hasn't flipped in either, especially when his alignment could be different.
@Rajam: thanks for the answers.
@Gord: If J starts to blatantly prod dodge, yes we can lynch him. But I don't like the idea of metaing someone based on another ongoing game (on activity of all things) where J hasn't flipped in either, especially when his alignment could be different.
Xivii
caterpillar feet
@mod: I voted for X1, is it a mistake that it is not shown?
I know. I saw that, I was just trying to catch him in a lie in case he was. Worth a shot, lol.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Well... thank GOD I got ninja'd, huh ?
?Yeah I hear you on not pushing for a quick lynch or anything. But it's irritating to put up with inactivity. that's why I always vote for Ignatius during JVS for inactivity. Because then when he ends up inactive, I can quote my Joke vote and say "see....." every time.
I wouldn't advocate a quick lynch, for the record. I've actually been the one slowing town down from quick lynching J in Oddworld. I just want him to feel pressure to be active right away. Cause if he's inactive in two games at the same time, I'll vote for him in both just so we can play the game again.
@gordito You're scum in Oddworld. So you must be scum here, right? haha just kidding. fresh slate for you, buddy.
I wouldn't advocate a quick lynch, for the record. I've actually been the one slowing town down from quick lynching J in Oddworld. I just want him to feel pressure to be active right away. Cause if he's inactive in two games at the same time, I'll vote for him in both just so we can play the game again.
@gordito You're scum in Oddworld. So you must be scum here, right? haha just kidding. fresh slate for you, buddy.
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Ok I'm slightly annoyed no one really got the same thoughts as I did with respect to MK. Either that or I've made a mistake somewhere. I guess not everyone else is here yet but I don't feel like waiting.
MK basically claimed a posting restriction in his 3rd post, with no pressure other than me saying "why aren't you voting?" to which he probably could of just responded "I don't like voting for no reason" or something along those lines.
Firstly, claiming something like a restriction probably isn't that useful for town to begin with (especially since I get the feeling that MK really WANTED to reveal it). Like, I can see that this particular case is probably something worth revealing… but still, :S. Why not immediately do it? It's as if MK was waiting for an opportunity to reveal it.
Secondly (and this is sort of reaching/bordering WIFOM) but it
1. Makes players less hesitant to vote him,
2. Stops MK from participating in ANY wagons unless the player is voting MK ((On this note, MK what happens if you are voting someone legitimately and they remove their vote on you you?). Also, why would someone vote MK if they are think they are getting wagoned?
Thus MK has basically claimed voteless townie, taking into account that no one would vote MK because it directly interferes with them potentially being lynched.
Though I'll outright say that I don't really see a voteless mafia goon or whatever being a role… unless MK's making this up. But essentially, if he's scum, he can't vote anyway (and if he does we catch him in the lie). Not trying to meta OS, but voteless goon doesn't make sense in theory (to me anyway) but I guess it could be a safeclaim. Who knows?
So @MK tell us why you claimed when you did. Did my "pressure" influence your decision?
MK basically claimed a posting restriction in his 3rd post, with no pressure other than me saying "why aren't you voting?" to which he probably could of just responded "I don't like voting for no reason" or something along those lines.
Firstly, claiming something like a restriction probably isn't that useful for town to begin with (especially since I get the feeling that MK really WANTED to reveal it). Like, I can see that this particular case is probably something worth revealing… but still, :S. Why not immediately do it? It's as if MK was waiting for an opportunity to reveal it.
Secondly (and this is sort of reaching/bordering WIFOM) but it
1. Makes players less hesitant to vote him,
2. Stops MK from participating in ANY wagons unless the player is voting MK ((On this note, MK what happens if you are voting someone legitimately and they remove their vote on you you?). Also, why would someone vote MK if they are think they are getting wagoned?
Thus MK has basically claimed voteless townie, taking into account that no one would vote MK because it directly interferes with them potentially being lynched.
Though I'll outright say that I don't really see a voteless mafia goon or whatever being a role… unless MK's making this up. But essentially, if he's scum, he can't vote anyway (and if he does we catch him in the lie). Not trying to meta OS, but voteless goon doesn't make sense in theory (to me anyway) but I guess it could be a safeclaim. Who knows?
So @MK tell us why you claimed when you did. Did my "pressure" influence your decision?
M.K
Level 55
No because I don't want people yelling at me when the time comes and not knowing why I am unable to vote. Telling you this upfront so you can prepare for the situation and not waste your time analyzing me at some point in the game when there are more important issues instead of now.
I mean vand, you are talking like the difference between 2 and 4 posts into the game and you're asking me why I should've claimed earlier? It's kinda moot since nothing has happened yet anyways.
If I am voting somebody legitimately (player A votes for me, I vote for Player A), and they unvote, I am allowed to keep my vote.
I mean vand, you are talking like the difference between 2 and 4 posts into the game and you're asking me why I should've claimed earlier? It's kinda moot since nothing has happened yet anyways.
If I am voting somebody legitimately (player A votes for me, I vote for Player A), and they unvote, I am allowed to keep my vote.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Funny man
. I don't think we can talk too much detail about other games currently playing. But still. Dastrn's gots jokes.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
@Vand
MK is moreorless useless to town, in the sense that he basically can't vote. But he can still be a very avid player, applying pressure (not with votes though), asking questions, making cases. Stuff that town should be doing anyway. If he's not doing that, at least he can't fling his vote around to ATTEMPT being useful, and we can pressure him into doing something beneficial.
MK is moreorless useless to town, in the sense that he basically can't vote. But he can still be a very avid player, applying pressure (not with votes though), asking questions, making cases. Stuff that town should be doing anyway. If he's not doing that, at least he can't fling his vote around to ATTEMPT being useful, and we can pressure him into doing something beneficial.
vanderzant
Smash Journeyman
Again I'm kind of reaching with this, but there was a good period of almost 12 hours between the confirmation phase and the start of the game, so you had plenty of time to think about it. If you didn't want people yelling at you down the track, from my P.O.V claiming would of been the very first thing I did. But you didn't seem like you'd mention it until I just happened to be asking you why you weren't voting?
I'm kind of fine with you being around for now though. If you're scum you basically don't have a voice. I could see your role being a liability in late game though.