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Work In Progress Video Arkive & Critique Thread ~Updating in progress 45 chars done~

Rizen

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kxiong92

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Here are the vids from the house tourney.
Requiem(Link) vs Jibca(Lucina)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDoBkNUQycA

Requiem(Lucina/Link/Samus) vs Sinnyboo(Shulk/Sheik)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuL5R4R4r7A
Surprisingly I'm not very familiar with the Sheik matchup. You guys' inputs on this match when I switched to Link will be appreciated.

Doubles:
BigReq(Pikachu/Link) vs Faven(Samus/Game n Watch/ PacMan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOFK6tFOeSA

RoboSwag (Mega Man/R.O.B.) v. BigReq (Link/Pikachu)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqqT27oo9Vk
This match was pretty hype. Mostly from me getting gimped by Megaman when I was around 20%. LOL
 

ZSaberLink

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This trolling is a work of art. 10/10 great fun for the whole family.

Edit, I got some good wifi games in. Will someone please critique the 2nd game? Mario danced all over me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXd3Inh0czU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YljeJPy5HaY
For critique on your second video which you asked for, I think one of the biggest things I noticed is that you threw bombs aimlessly a lot. For fun I counted approximately how many bombs you threw vs. how many that hit, and it was close to something like 4 bombs hit out of 28. The problem is though is that the vast majority of the bombs that didn't hit weren't caped/shielded/dodged by the Mario, but that you simply threw it nowhere near your opponent. Elessar has brought up the same critique to me in the past: you need to throw bombs with a purpose. So don't be afraid to hold them for a while, or just drop them somewhere for positional advantage. If Mario's approaching you too much on the ground, you can Z-drop or soft throw a bomb in front of you, and now that limits Mario's approach options somewhat for example.

Secondly, Mario generally approached you a lot in that match. You often ended up throwing some of Link's slowest attacks (Smash Attacks, boomerangs) and got punished hard when you missed. Either that or you were trying to throw a boomerang too late. That for example would have been a great time to use the bomb that you had in hand. Your opponent has to be somewhat apprehensive as you hold the bomb. Or at least try a jab or Link's fast aerials (Nair & BAir, retreating Fair are my best guesses).

Also, you missed the ledge a lot with your Up B recoveries, making them super unsafe. I'm sure you had picked up on that however.
 
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Rizen

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^Thanks. Yeah I had trouble spacing/timing moves. It was my first time vs a good Mario and his agility surprised me. I didn't know where he'd be and threw out attacks.
 

FSK

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Time for me to try and make a contribution. Here are video clips of Link's entire moveset:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/kgxhx3ebmivys5j/Moveset_Part_1.zip

http://www.mediafire.com/download/uulalqebzovxwhv/Moveset_Part_2.zip

Load it into your favourite viewer and watch the clips frame by frame to take a deep look into Link's moveset. From the videos you can see move duration, when hitboxes come out and ending lag. If a new patch hits you can use this as a reference to look for changes in Link's moveset. I've gotten good use out of it and hopefully you guys will too. I use Blender to view the videoes frame by frame, since I'm familiar with the program and it's very easy to step forward and back on the frames. Blender is also free which is great. Maybe I can make a tutorial how to set up blender for this purpose if people want it.
 

MugenLord

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Its been awhile since I posted my progress with my Link. I need some advice on this Mario match up, be honest because I plan on going competitive.
 

link7

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LOGIA666

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My first replay. It's nothing special, just thought I could get some good critique from some solid Link mains, and maybe if you're lucky, you'll find something in the video you can learn from.

This was done on For Glory, so take it as you will. I don't think I've ever played Smash 4 offline, having never been to a tourney before, so I'll just have to make do for now.

Kudos to FSK for leading me here, but of course, using the two eyes in my skull to look for it would've been a great idea.

 

Catana

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My first replay. It's nothing special, just thought I could get some good critique from some solid Link mains, and maybe if you're lucky, you'll find something in the video you can learn from.

This was done on For Glory, so take it as you will. I don't think I've ever played Smash 4 offline, having never been to a tourney before, so I'll just have to make do for now.

Kudos to FSK for leading me here, but of course, using the two eyes in my skull to look for it would've been a great idea.

You do way too many risky things like random fsmash and upb, use those only when you're sure they'll hit. especially against luigi who will easily grab you for 50% damage or take a stock; you were lucky this luigi was bad.
You play too aggro and do many things that dont make sense, you need to be more careful with your bomb pulls and double jumps because you can easily get gimped. Your bomb game is very straight-forward and you definitely need to look up on some things to improve that and mix your game up.
 

LOGIA666

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You do way too many risky things like random fsmash and upb, use those only when you're sure they'll hit. especially against luigi who will easily grab you for 50% damage or take a stock; you were lucky this luigi was bad.
You play too aggro and do many things that dont make sense, you need to be more careful with your bomb pulls and double jumps because you can easily get gimped. Your bomb game is very straight-forward and you definitely need to look up on some things to improve that and mix your game up.
Well, Forward Smash can break shields mad easy if you whittle it down first with a few jabs iir, so that was my only real logic there. I fudged up some of the Up B's and got punished for it.

I always thought that my bomb game was alright, but I guess I need to hit the lab.

Oh, and Rin is best bae.
 
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Catana

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Well, Forward Smash can break shields mad easy if you whittle it down first with a few jabs iir, so that was my only real logic there.
They can, but never is the 2nd hit actually guaranteed on shield and you used it too recklessly. Its insanely punishable and should be used with extreme caution especially in a matchup like this.
 

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In case some of you have trouble edgeguarding luigi as link i helped my good friend bam with a couple of edgeguards against luigi in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww3P6jxipWA&feature=youtu.be the nair foostool is what i really want to highlight it works on a majority of the cast, and i'll also be partnering with bam to make a link montage of some sorts in the future so keep an eye out for it :S
I will most definitely check this out!
 
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ScizorVX

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In case some of you have trouble edgeguarding luigi as link i helped my good friend bam with a couple of edgeguards against luigi in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww3P6jxipWA&feature=youtu.be the nair foostool is what i really want to highlight it works on a majority of the cast, and i'll also be partnering with bam to make a link montage of some sorts in the future so keep an eye out for it :S
 

A17

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^Thanks. Yeah I had trouble spacing/timing moves. It was my first time vs a good Mario and his agility surprised me. I didn't know where he'd be and threw out attacks.
I don't know if this is viable against a Mario, but one thing I thought of doing against players who like to movearound with SH aerials is to zone them with zair while matching their timing. I started doing this to Jigglypuffs that like coming at Link's blind spot which is the area in front and just over Link's height.
 

kxiong92

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You were whiffing grabs too much. I know that Link's grab is better now but you shouldn't use grab too much. I was very grab happy when Link got that grab buff XD. Link can still get punished hard for missing a grab. I saw that you did jab jab grabs. Most of the time you shouldn't go for a grab after jabbing, It's better to just do all the jabs. That last match before you sd, you did jab jab and then grab and missed. Pit got a pretty good punish.

Overall, I felt you handled it pretty well. It's just that you were too grab happy. On the side note, Skyloft looks very interesting. I should probably convince MN's TO to make that stage legal. LOL
 
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Sneak Sneaks

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What do you think of my playstyle with Link? Please let me know how can I improve. I main Megaman and Link is my new secondary
 

FSK

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New vids of T!

T vs Abadango (WiFi Tournament)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnXmgl60GSY

T vs Taranito (WiFi Tournament)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOw0n_ibJ2o

Also new vids of Hyrule Hero:

SW 45 Smash 4 - Hyrule Hero (Link) vs AeroLink (Palutena) - Winners Bracket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCLOYRDhC34


SW 45 Smash 4 - Hyrule Hero (Link) vs Cha0tic (Greninja) - Winners Bracket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiVKRCDm6eU


SW 45 Smash 4 - Hyrule Hero (Link) vs Batmayne (Lucas) - Winners Bracket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hoWu6xX71Q


SW 45 Smash 4 - Hyrule Hero (Link) vs Mook (Pikachu) - Losers Bracket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8adqROhwfhk
 
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Catana

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i think he did okay ish
Your opinion is irrelevant, especially if you have nothing to back it up with.
I can tell you're new here, I'd strongly advice you to be cautious with your posts, read the rules and to learn from your elders.
 
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Sheik_Pwns

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Your opinion is irrelevant, especially if you have nothing to back it up with.
I can tell you're new here, I'd strongly advice you to be cautious with your posts, read the rules and to learn from your elders.
yes ma'am/sir
 

Dumbfire

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For those who missed them, Cat making NL's highest placing Falcon seem easy (he was very tired and it shows):

Cat :4link: vs :4falcon:
24 August 2015 Moneymatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4-fRSvr0Lo

And two Scizor sets vs Angbad:

Scizor:4link:/:4greninja: vs Angbad:4olimar:
17 July 2015 Friendly Set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbRkY0JVD7I

Scizor:4link: vs Angbad:4olimar:
17 July 2015 Friendly Set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC0e7ZvXn2w
(LMFAO at the ending)

Have been busy so really outdated with updating I'll see when I feel like updating that huge chunk
 
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Ffamran

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Soronie took 4th? at Come on and Ban 32; bracket: https://smash.gg/tournament/come-on-and-ban-32/brackets. Question mark comes from not using challonge which has a full results list and I think this one doesn't.

Soronie's Link vs. Scourge's Sonic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmwXXXn-sAw.

Soronie vs. GShark's ZSS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjIzNQXv00.

Soronie vs. Trevonte's Sheik (Winners Quarters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87Zrw49r7c.

Soronie vs. Trevonte's Sheik (Losers Semis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVApxYKBO2A.
 

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KenMeister

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Uploaded some of the sets I had at Paragon LA 2015.

DJTHED :4link: vs Kdash :4diddy: / :4sheik:
September 5th, 2015, Pools Winners R1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti3LRXLBPSE

DJTHED :4link: / :4kirby: vs True Blue :4sonic:
September 5th, 2015, Pools Winners R2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foNCChdzkCY

DJTHED :4link: vs nursemaid :4mario:
September 5th, 2015, Pools Losers R4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIMp0SPbAk
This one only has the first match. The second match, which I lost, failed to record for whatever reason.
God, that Sonic match looked so unfun to play, given he played as ridiculously campy as possible.
 

~Unknown~

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Soronie took 4th? at Come on and Ban 32; bracket: https://smash.gg/tournament/come-on-and-ban-32/brackets. Question mark comes from not using challonge which has a full results list and I think this one doesn't.

Soronie's Link vs. Scourge's Sonic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmwXXXn-sAw.

Soronie vs. GShark's ZSS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjIzNQXv00.

Soronie vs. Trevonte's Sheik (Winners Quarters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87Zrw49r7c.

Soronie vs. Trevonte's Sheik (Losers Semis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVApxYKBO2A.
Hmmmm this is pretty interesting. The zss mu in particular. Although that zss isn't that good. Link vs zss is his worst mu in my opinion. What's interesting is zss tether grab. If link spot dodges he gets grabbed. Short hop grabbed. Roll away grabbed. But in this mu every time link rolls towards the zss he doesn't get grabbed. I'm at work right now but I'd nice if someone could confirm this. Would def help in the mu!
 

parade17

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Hello guys, how are you? It's been a long time since I posted here (I know, I should be more active). So, in Colombia, there was a tournament last weekend in my city, I ended up in first place playing the hole tournament with link, and 2 sets with sheik (Grand Finals and losers Round 6). So I was hoping you guys could see the replay of the tournament (Sorry, it's not in HD :( ) and help me improve my game with Link. I will post the video, and the time of it that I play, also the bracket of the tournament (30 participants). Thanks for your time.

Tournament: Run It Back! I'm Salty v8.0
- http://www.twitch.tv/whitepaaws/v/15933050

Matches with Link
- (Winners) 2FP|Chuck :4link: vs Samiman :4yoshi:: 0h 53m 40s
- (Losers) 2FP|Chuck :4link: vs Samiman :4yoshi:: 3h 00m 40s
- (Losers Finals) 2FP|Chuck :4link: vs 2FP|Forest :4sonic:: 3h 22m 57s

Bracket
- http://challonge.com/ribisv8

I played in grand finals with sheik, so I did not posted that time lapse in this video thread. Hope you guys see and critique my gameplay so I can improve with link. Thanks for your time and have a great day.
 

link7

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Hello guys, how are you? It's been a long time since I posted here (I know, I should be more active). So, in Colombia, there was a tournament last weekend in my city, I ended up in first place playing the hole tournament with link, and 2 sets with sheik (Grand Finals and losers Round 6). So I was hoping you guys could see the replay of the tournament (Sorry, it's not in HD :( ) and help me improve my game with Link. I will post the video, and the time of it that I play, also the bracket of the tournament (30 participants). Thanks for your time.

Tournament: Run It Back! I'm Salty v8.0
- http://www.twitch.tv/whitepaaws/v/15933050

Matches with Link
- (Winners) 2FP|Chuck :4link: vs Samiman :4yoshi:: 0h 53m 40s
- (Losers) 2FP|Chuck :4link: vs Samiman :4yoshi:: 3h 00m 40s
- (Losers Finals) 2FP|Chuck :4link: vs 2FP|Forest :4sonic:: 3h 22m 57s

Bracket
- http://challonge.com/ribisv8

I played in grand finals with sheik, so I did not posted that time lapse in this video thread. Hope you guys see and critique my gameplay so I can improve with link. Thanks for your time and have a great day.
Are you the Chuck that used Giant Bombs, and had the bracket reset on you against a Fox at a tourney a few months back?
 

Dumbfire

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Are you the Chuck that used Giant Bombs, and had the bracket reset on you against a Fox at a tourney a few months back?
Yes that's him.
Good job DJTHED!

From August 31, me against a Sheik tournament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frBg0Qq3vwc

Friendly against a Fox (=P):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ZaGhC6riU

More is coming I hope!
Lmfao at the music choice that first set, sexy gimp there and good stuff

Will watch all stuff some tiem
 

parade17

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Are you the Chuck that used Giant Bombs, and had the bracket reset on you against a Fox at a tourney a few months back?
Hi there! Yes, that's me, that's my best custom againts fox, I dunno if it's practical or not, buy I feel confortable using that custom in that match.


Yes that's him.

Lmfao at the music choice that first set, sexy gimp there and good stuff

Will watch all stuff some tiem
Thanks man, hope you guys find the video interesting, and help me improving my link :D

PD: This is the fan page on facebook of my team, it would be nice if you guys could give us some likes, or check out my Twitch channel (www.twitch.tv/chuck610) where we do Streams every Tuesdays and Thursdays :D

https://www.facebook.com/2framepunish

(Hope this is not spam)
 
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Batu

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August 21 Batu (Link) vs Jaro (Mario) offline friendlys 1
https://youtu.be/WN6PesKAFDk

August 21 Batu (Link) vs Jaro (Mario) offline friendlys 2
https://youtu.be/_xa3yZpqfWk


August 29 Batu (Link) vs Capitancito (Dr. Mario) offline friendlys 1
https://youtu.be/xvnQaUjoTKY


August 29 Batu (Luigi) vs Capitancito (Dr. Mario) offline friendlys 2
https://youtu.be/FpGwqHh61VE


August 29 Batu (Luigi) vs Capitancito (Dr. Mario) offline friendlys 3
https://youtu.be/MNLkIUOuqP8

I have more vids where i get rek for good! Will post them soon!
Every critics is welcome!
 
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Ffamran

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I don't know anything about the Netherlands' Smash scene, but a cool cat took first in NHSmash1 with Link and Meta Knight: http://nhsmash.challonge.com/NHSmashSingles.

Catana Catana 's Link vs. Mr. White's Rosalina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIOjoBQvkY.

Cat's Link and Meta Knight vs. Skipper's Captain Falcon and DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wybSnzHe3fs.

Cat's Link vs. Wreck-It-Mundo's Wario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kX_CpGPBzU.

Cat's Link and Meta Knight vs. Meru's Peach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0FsBPRY9pI.

Also, Rensiee's Link and Rosalina vs. Illusion's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huv7y7nj5rw. Rensiee managed 33rd in that same tournament.
 
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