UTrick'd2, OVER! Mafia wins!

[Zeke the Moth]

Yes, Werekill, I want you to reveal my other crumb. One of you or T-Block is scum, and I'm very disturbed that T-Block thinks I would be suggesting I'm Town as a result of Brosuke Town. T-Block, you aren't that oblivious.

 

[T-block]

i never said that?

 

[T-block]

if you're alluding to why i would still think brosuke is scum even though you stated he was a strong town read, i didn't let it affect my read because a) i don't necessarily have you as town right now and b) even if you were town, you might not have correctly pinned brosuke as town

i said i wouldn't think brosuke is town just because you said he was town. that's not even close to saying you're suggesting town brosuke should imply that you are town.

but it seems like i never know what you're thinking nowadays anyways, raziek

 

[Zeke the Moth]

My apologies, I misread what you posted. Previous statement retracted.

 

[Lore]

Yes, Werekill, I want you to reveal my other crumb. One of you or T-Block is scum, and I'm very disturbed that T-Block thinks I would be suggesting I'm Town as a result of Brosuke Town. T-Block, you aren't that oblivious.

Ok, no problem.

Were you crumbing Robin? You directly said "Golly Gee Batman" and other Robin-like sayings (can find the post if I REALLY have to), so I figured that you weren't Batman. And since you weren't Batman, I figured that you were lying about either all or part of the claim.

The Robin bit was the part that leaped out at me, but if there was something deeper, then I have no clue, haha. Was I right in assuming that was your crumb?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I saw werekils play once in noob whatever number it was. But that barely counts. The fact is, tblock, that this isnt a noob vs scum thing, at least to me, in any way.

Ill do more stuff later.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Liked the readback on LAK overall. If you really want me to divulge on my enjoyment of I'd be happy to oblige, but I do like what you have. Some things like some of the fluff and (I think) something else I remember may have been misconstrued as a reach throughout the reread, but I really like the play analysis for the inferno/soup back and forth.

Lemme say this though: While both seem ingenuine, Werekill's actions stood out to me much more in memory, which I guess is kinda that umph to make me wanna persue Werekill > LAK. What makes you think LAK > Werekill (I'm assuming that's your stance)?

 

[T-block]

to be honest, it's mostly just that i've seen werekill play like this before, whereas i know i've seen rr play better

hang on, let me skim through mm and rag

 

[T-block]

The difference between the two is that John, while acting a bit scummy, can still be explained away by being new, but OS can not.

Besides, imo, OS is scummier in general for reasons said in the last few of my posts, and I'll probably build a full case soon.

tendency to explain scumminess by newbiness

Sorry, had to make a short post so that no one ninjas me and hammers by accidentally stacking.

J, would you mind reminding me of which post you wanted me to find? It was waaaaaaaay back now since you guys post too much (), so it'll be easier for me to find it after school today.

Going ahead and replying to this:


I thought that threatening to hammer was a good way to get him to post, and isn't it a tradition on here for people to claim when they're at L-1? I'm not THAT experienced (4 games, basically), but I'm pretty sure that's true.

On John: I found the Solid case to be solid enough for seeing a flip, but the claim has changed my mind.

However, I find John's claim to be laughably bad. Besides, his role, as I understand it, is almost completely useless now that he has claimed. Also, even though some of his actions can be explained away as newbtown, his scumminess has just been stacking up way too much for me to not vote for him, and the claim just makes it worse.

Hammer when ready.

tendency to consider utility of the claimed role when deciding to go through with a lynch

couldn't find anything in rag

it's not as similar as i originally thought... and he ended up pushing john in MM instead of defending him.

meh - if werekill is the play toDay you'll hear no disagreement from me

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Incorrect Crumb, feeling SLIGHTLY better about Werekill as a result.

More thoughts later.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Going to be honest, not surprised with the innocent result on Werekill, will look into T-block's LAK case/whatever.

 

[Lore]

I saw werekils play once in noob whatever number it was. But that barely counts. The fact is, tblock, that this isnt a noob vs scum thing, at least to me, in any way.

Ill do more stuff later.

I think he's saying that I'm playing similar to other games where I'm town, not that I'm playing like a noob.

I would bring up examples from BRoom games, but since you guys can't see it, you can't verify that I'm not lying. >_<

Lemme say this though: While both seem ingenuine, Werekill's actions stood out to me much more in memory, which I guess is kinda that umph to make me wanna persue Werekill > LAK. What makes you think LAK > Werekill (I'm assuming that's your stance)?

May I ask why mine stand out more? Is it because I was absent D1, like you said in the original post that started all this? I'm curious.

 

[Lore]

Going to be honest, not surprised with the innocent result on Werekill, will look into T-block's LAK case/whatever.

Innocent result?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Incorrect Crumb, feeling SLIGHTLY better about Werekill as a result.

More thoughts later.

I dont see how. Any player can flavour speculate. Wanna explain if that aint it?

Going to be honest, not surprised with the innocent result on Werekill, will look into T-block's LAK case/whatever.

Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

T-Block, I haven't been posting a some of the things you quoted.

How can you say it was me who posted all of that with saying I've played better? Fluff? Read back on my interactions with Soup and Inferno, Soups claim alone made him town to me along with rereading and seeing Inferno's posts. I didn't push Soup because his play with his claim.

Inferno at the end was looking far more likely to be scum. John posts a lot of fluff as town, congrates you matched his meta.

I haven't been posting fluff, reread the interactions and say I was posting fluff.

I need a full reread of T-Block, meta is telling me scum block atm, but I need to colsolt with John since I want his consent before I vote. I also need to read this thread instead of skimming the last few post and seeing the case on us.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

I think he's saying that I'm playing similar to other games where I'm town, not that I'm playing like a noob.

I would bring up examples from BRoom games, but since you guys can't see it, you can't verify that I'm not lying. >_<



May I ask why mine stand out more? Is it because I was absent D1, like you said in the original post that started all this? I'm curious.

For the record, you playing the noob card is a super scum tell to me.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Also I did specuklation and number crunching, I think a mass claim might be warrented.

If we get another double night kill we're in a kingmaker situation, I think an indy is possible in this set-up since I am speculating a lot on what is possible.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Also thoughts on a mass claim?

 

[Lore]

For the record, you playing the noob card is a super scum tell to me.

I'm not playing the noob card, damnit. Try actually reading. >_>

I think he's saying that I'm playing similar to other games where I'm town, not that I'm playing like a noob.

I would bring up examples from BRoom games, but since you guys can't see it, you can't verify that I'm not lying. >_<

The bold part implies that the next line is about bringing up games where I was Town and playing exactly like I'm doing here. I never said anything along the lines of "Uh I'm a noob lol don't lynch me," and I don't like that you tried to paint my post like something it's not.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That still is implying that your referring you play which you admit is bad in past games as meta as to why your are town.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

I fail at post in the right browser as well.

 

[Lore]

That still is implying that your referring you play which you admit is bad in past games as meta as to why your are town.

Did I say that it was bad? I was saying that it's my play, and I don't believe that it's bad play.

Is it? I haven't had many problems with this before, so maybe I just developed a bad habit without anyone telling me it was bad. >_<

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

You OMGUS people a lot, MM told me that along with other games I've seen. You wanted me dead for picking you for a gambit alone.

I thought you were implying your play was bad, if I was wrong my bad, but your applying a lot of self meta to state your townieness. I know I did this with John but I find it incredibly hypocritical of T-Block when I know he has played 2-3 games with John and knows that already yet he refers to you as a more likely town read due to meta.

This is a hydra, I'm not the only one posting, he knows some of those posts are John's, it's obvious since me and John have distinct posting differences.

T-Block should I trust you? I can't at all.

 

[Lore]

You OMGUS people a lot, MM told me that along with other games I've seen. You wanted me dead for picking you for a gambit alone.

I thought you were implying your play was bad, if I was wrong my bad, but your applying a lot of self meta to state your townieness. I know I did this with John but I find it incredibly hypocritical of T-Block when I know he has played 2-3 games with John and knows that already yet he refers to you as a more likely town read due to meta.

This is a hydra, I'm not the only one posting, he knows some of those posts are John's, it's obvious since me and John have distinct posting differences.

T-Block should I trust you? I can't at all.

Ugh, yeah. That falls under the emotional stuff that I'm working on, haha. Am I doing better this game?

And yeah, you were wrong, but I'm ok with that. I do see what you mean about self meta, but I was really clarifying for Gorf that it wasn't about me being a noob and then was told that I was playing a noob card by you.

Now that all that's cleared up, I'm ready to move on.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

I'll tell ya at end game since that depends on your alignment.

Yeah if I messed up guess I did.

So Werekill where are your overall reads, that is important atm.

 

[T-block]

hydras are stupid

yes i realize some of the posts are made by john. but i would expect at least some content worth reading from your side of the hydra, and i didn't really find any. the content i did find was a bad post about meadow, a scum pick on acrostic that's not backed by any reasoning, a vague mention of my scum meta without any backing, and a couple questions asked where you don't even care about the answers. i'll accept your stance on soup, but that was never my main point anyways. your "content" on inferno was a wishy-washy series of fence jumping without any reasoning behind the jumps. so the only real content you have is scummy. cool.

i would love to hear how this supposedly lines up with my scum meta. especially smrpg, where i ended up dying N1

it's actually not easy for me to tell when john is posting and when you are posting btw

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Hydras are a part of the game if they show up, deal with it.

You gotta be blind as **** if you think I posting all fluff. Scum Acro came from his post on a read, I'll quote it if I need to.

I cared about those answer, don't put bull**** in my mouth.

And yes you are fitting scum meta. You ask question for different purposes as scum and it shows, in Housepets you asked Kantrip, myself and JTB questiont to build a case on us for a mislynch, your questions do no look at connections or play but rather place presumptions to get people to bandwagon on a case so people will form on a lynch.

I know you died in SMRPG N1 but your play still fits it solidly, you did the same thing when I called you out on it D1 when the game started there as well. Your not asking questions or making direct links on play, your forming mislynches on the info you gather. Look at your questions to Brosuke, it pretty much solidfied your intent there.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Also it should be easy because I post a paragraph or more, if not I post in a way that differs, I can see it for some posts but I'm calling BS on saying you can't tell a bunch of the posts were made by me.

 

[Lore]

I'll tell ya at end game since that depends on your alignment.

Yeah if I messed up guess I did.

So Werekill where are your overall reads, that is important atm.

Fair enough, haha. I look forward to it.

Hm. Reads.

You, I'm not sure about. T-Block's "case" seems ok, but I'm trying to decide if the inconsistency problems are because of the hydra or because you're scum. Null.

Gorf, his case against me may have several holes in it, but I do feel at least some scum hunting intent. I'm not sure if he's trying to be the "pusher" for toDay (like Ryker was yesterDay with Inferno) because he's determined town or crafty scum. Null until a reread lets me decide.

(I need more hours in a day for rereads! Haha.)

Kan, well, I didn't like his jump to me, but I'm saving my opinion about him until I have time to reread. If he's scummy I'll build a case, I suppose, but if not, I'll let him slide. Null until reread.

TB, I can feel scumhunting vibes from him. However, there are a few little things here and there that make me feel a bit uneasy about him; for example, the hypocriticalness that you mentioned. Null with a very, very slight touch of scumminess, but he's not on my priority list.

Where the hell is composer? Scum until he ****ing gets in here and posts.

Soup, he has some smelly bits here and there, but I think that he's got towny intent overall. I'll reread (like everyone else UGH) for a final decision, but for now, null leaning town.

(Yeah, I know I didn't mind his lynch yesterday, but I actually did glance back over his posts during the Night and didn't find much fault with them, to be honest.)

Zeke, Town for now due to his claim, even though my crumb-find was wrong. I'm still waiting to see what he comes out with, but for now, I'm fine with calling him town.

Meadow's in a coma, but I liked most of his earlier posts. His close interactions with Ryker made me a bit curious, but since it was two sided and Ryker flipped town, I can let it slide for now.

Did I miss anyone?

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Also everyone need to post their thoughts on a mass claim, it's needed because kingmaker situation is possible tomarrow I think.

 

[Lore]

Also everyone need to post their thoughts on a mass claim, it's needed because kingmaker situation is possible tomarrow I think.

Mind explaining a Kingmaker situation? I haven't played a game with one yet.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Wait composer is in this game?

@mod: request prod on Composer

Kingmaker means were put in a situation where we can't win and everyone playing pretty much decides who wins.

 

[Lore]

Wait composer is in this game?

@mod: request prod on Composer

Kingmaker means were put in a situation where we can't win and everyone playing pretty much decides who wins.

Wait, that definition doesn't make sense. If we can't win, how can everyone decide who wins?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Composer wants me to tell you guys to "eat butts"

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Fair enough, haha. I look forward to it.

Hm. Reads.

You, I'm not sure about. T-Block's "case" seems ok, but I'm trying to decide if the inconsistency problems are because of the hydra or because you're scum. Null.

Gorf, his case against me may have several holes in it, but I do feel at least some scum hunting intent. I'm not sure if he's trying to be the "pusher" for toDay (like Ryker was yesterDay with Inferno) because he's determined town or crafty scum. Null until a reread lets me decide.

(I need more hours in a day for rereads! Haha.)

Kan, well, I didn't like his jump to me, but I'm saving my opinion about him until I have time to reread. If he's scummy I'll build a case, I suppose, but if not, I'll let him slide. Null until reread.

TB, I can feel scumhunting vibes from him. However, there are a few little things here and there that make me feel a bit uneasy about him; for example, the hypocriticalness that you mentioned. Null with a very, very slight touch of scumminess, but he's not on my priority list.

Where the hell is composer? Scum until he ****ing gets in here and posts.

Soup, he has some smelly bits here and there, but I think that he's got towny intent overall. I'll reread (like everyone else UGH) for a final decision, but for now, null leaning town.

(Yeah, I know I didn't mind his lynch yesterday, but I actually did glance back over his posts during the Night and didn't find much fault with them, to be honest.)

Zeke, Town for now due to his claim, even though my crumb-find was wrong. I'm still waiting to see what he comes out with, but for now, I'm fine with calling him town.

Meadow's in a coma, but I liked most of his earlier posts. His close interactions with Ryker made me a bit curious, but since it was two sided and Ryker flipped town, I can let it slide for now.

Did I miss anyone?

"Lemme take time to mold cases on people while not directly calling anybody town or scum, except for LAK, who I CONVENIENTLY called scum after suspicion of him arose."

 

[Lore]

"Lemme take time to mold cases on people while not directly calling anybody town or scum, except for LAK, who I CONVENIENTLY called scum after suspicion of him arose."

I never called him scum, stop twisting my words. I said that the case had merit, but I still have him as a null.

Get your head out of your butt.

And oh, let's just forget that I haven't had time to reread Kan and can't pull up a case out of my ***. He's the only person who I think is scummy enough to have a case built around him, but even then, I'm not sure if I'll end up thinking he's scum.

So yeah, "lemme take time to mold cases on people while not directly calling anybody town or scum" so that I don't look like a total ******* when I call them something that isn't supported by posts.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

My first post toDay was nothing but memory, and much more substantial than your post right there.

That part about calling LAK scum, my fault I was thinking the other way around. But everything in that post still stands regarding the fact that you're stalling and giving NOTHING while you have the opportunity to at least try off of what you remember... Unless of course you don't really have anything cuz your only scapegoat is the dude being accused (OR COMPOSER, THE ONLY PERSON YOU CALLED SCUM, REASON BEING THAT HE AIN'T HERE) but of course that's IF YOU'RE SCUM.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Replying to that last part:

It doesn't matter if something's supported by posts or not. If you think something, damn it all say it. Find the posts that back up your theory later if anything, sitting around with your thumb up your bum helps nobody, especially not yourself.

 

[Lore]

@Your first post: Well excuse me for having a life, wanting to reread, and actually wanting to back up my accusations. I'm a busy lady, you know.

And besides, I actually did give opinions other than just "oh I need to reread." It wasn't THAT much, but at least I gave something on most players.

Replying to that last part:

It doesn't matter if something's supported by posts or not. If you think something, damn it all say it. Find the posts that back up your theory later if anything, sitting around with your thumb up your bum helps nobody, especially not yourself.

But isn't that a stupid way to go about things? If you say something about someone and can't back it up, then you've basically got a case that just easily folds over unless you're Ryker and can just use swag.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

But isn't that a stupid way to go about things? If you say something about someone and can't back it up, then you've basically got a case that just easily folds over unless you're Ryker and can just use swag.

If you know what you're saying is right then you can say it now and back it up later. That's what I did yesterday with you. I said my piece, and THEN backed it up. Rereading ain't a bad thing, but you're using that as a way to STALL. I'd do the same thing... When I was noob scum... I'm just telling you that as town, at least freaking try, which is what makes Kantrip so obviously town in my eyes.