UTrick'd2, OVER! Mafia wins!

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Mod can you update the important posts and alive/dead list on the OP for convenience?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Actually, there was a shift that I'm just remembering that I thought would be scummy as alll hell if Inferno flipped town. After Inferno AtE'd about getting lynched, LAK came into the game and said that that was making him get more of a town read on Inferno, which obv means he had a scum feel before that. THAT is almost definitely a pre' scummy shift if you ask me... There isn't much to go off of with that slot, but for now I can deff. see that as something to look into.

@LAK contribute if you want to save yourself from being the play toDay.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I wouldn't lynch LAK today.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I haven't read too much, but here goes.

He seems to be sidelining a bit by asking questions, which honestly isn't much of a bad thing D1, I suppose. He's a solid null to me unless I see anything different.

Nice read bro.

 

[T-block]

I gotchu dawg.

Out of all of the following alive, I am confident enough in myself that Kantrip, TBlock, and Meadowsizzle are all town. Looking back and thinking back on Felipe's actions is enough to make me want him dead just because Composer's going to be a nonfactor, admittedly. But I'd just rather a modkill take place on his slot so that, if he is in fact scum, we don't waste a Day. Either that, or the (possible) vig won't be stupid and actually shoot a good target toNight. Soup has been hitting me as scum throughout a damn good portion of the game, but that has a lot to do with the fact that he's so blisteringly stupid and frustrating. As far as I know, his ability is that of a governor's, and PR schenanigans aren't enough to clear somebody. But... idk why it's his stupidity that makes me think he's possibly town... Werekill, I don't remember doing much, which scares me. In fact, I read back on him D1 and he did literally nothing as far as voicing himself in any way, let alone voicing himself with regards to the Acrostic lynch. And yesterDay the only time I really remember his voice was after Brosuke's cries of Infernotown, and Werekill was just following that cry. Admittedly I misread Inferno, but it wasn't due to the fact that somebody was there engineering his suspicion (yes Ryker was voicing suspicion of him, but I wasn't suspicious of Inferno BECAUSE of Ryker). From what I remember, Werekill kinda used Brosuke to hide behind, almost if... he knew Brosuketown would be right? LAK's slot is weird for me, mostly because his doing nothing is oblivious, but not something that I can necessarily note as SCUMMY. I'd have to look back at it... And Zeke is kinda leaning town, but I guess I just want to be too willing to call him town YET, cuz I found something about him scummy D1 (just can't remember lol). I'm looking to read back, but I'm really not liking Werekill based off of current memory, and I might just be down to lynch Soup because his alignment is completely blarg to me... Definitely looking to do work. What are you thinking TBlock bby?

nah dude. we really don't need to lynch soup toDay... or likely any Day for that matter. i've seen soup fakeclaim stuff as scum before... what he did this game matches up too strongly with how he would think as town.

stuff on werekill i like a lot though. defs gonna be rereading him, but i'd probably be fine with his lynch toDay atm.

LAK is scummy imo. he set himself up to be able to be on either side of the inferno lynch (bought the AtE, then says his town read "shrivels" in 1347 without providing any solid reasoning, then in 1381 says he likes the logic presented by brosuke, followed by a setup with the hammer with no further discussion on the topic). the rest of his posts have been sideline commentary or parroting. reread his posts and let me know if you agree.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm even willing to make a counter-case on it.

 

[T-block]

oh okay... cool ninja

btw, i do keep saying i'm going to reread, but that's going to wait for tomorrow because i've got a huge lab report due tomorrow that i'm not really close to finishing.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

If you say you're cool with Soup than cool, I'll go off of your read.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hey gorf is Werekill scum

 

[Kantrip]

Soup, who are you looking at?

 

[Lore]

Funny, I was gonna type this as a disclaimer in the above post, but might as well type it now:

I really don't give a s*** about what you have to say as far as defending yourself from any claims I have atm, cuz all I care about is what happened yesterDay. How's about you call me scum like (iirc) you promised you would yesterDay after an Inferno town flip?

So if I say a defence that would more or less make your "claims" less valid, you'll ignore it? Not sure if scum or acting stupid here.

And calling you scum? I never said that I would do that. I said that you would look WORSE if Inferno flipped town, and I never said that it would make you flat-put scummy. However, I am rereading you, and I'll give a read soon.

 

[Lore]

Nice read bro.

What does this mean?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup, who are you looking at?

Hey gorf is werekill scum

I'm reading right now.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So if I say a defence that would more or less make your "claims" less valid, you'll ignore it? Not sure if scum or acting stupid here.

And calling you scum? I never said that I would do that. I said that you would look WORSE if Inferno flipped town, and I never said that it would make you flat-put scummy. However, I am rereading you, and I'll give a read soon.

Cute.

@Soup probz but I gotta reread.

 

[Lore]

Cute.

@Soup probz but I gotta reread.

Oh look, passing off my post as "cute" without even giving it a responce. I'm starting to really not like you, Gorf.

 

[T-block]

cute indeed

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I can tell one some things i'm confident on

my ability to read

i can tell you some things i'm not confident on

my ability to make a post about my reads

i'm incredibly shallow, it's understandable but i don't feel a need to drag out cases and the like, i literally just read RVS and i could tell you who i felt was town and scum at the point even with the flips.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

<3

Anyway, I'm still not certain on the Inferno lynch. However, since we aren't losing much more than a flavor cop, essentially, I suppose that it won't be a major loss for town. I still don't really get too much of a scum feel from him, but whatever.

I say definitely look at Soup toMorrow, though. He seems a bit iffy to me, but I'll reread and decide for certain what I think about him.

That's what I want to know. Mind clarifying, Kan?

Also, just noticed the tracker part of Inferno's claim. Is his flip worth losing a tracker?

If anyone's lynching just based on connections/gained connections via flip, I'd like to hear you now. I don't think an info lynch is worth losing a useful PR over, but if you think like Ryker that he's truly scum, then go for it.

Me? I'm staying out of it. I personally don't find him all that scummy, but of course, I'm still rereading.

Look at the way he words his stance...

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Werekill, what's your read on Kantrip?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Not rational? Really? Accusing you of being scummy when you were being ****ing scummy is irrational? I can already tell that this is going to be a fun game. :/

Tell me why I was being irrational, or I'm calling this OMGUS because someone's little feelings got hurt when I accused him of something.

I got un level headed when I was, you know, about to be mislynched. I'm not liking this here; it's almost like you're trying to set me up later for a quick "oh you're being a ******* like in MM" accusation.

If you're not, feel free to set the record straight.

Haha, I just don't like starting a game by being called a dumb *** via implication, ya know?

Look at the way he words his stance...

Same thing as the beginning of the game.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh look, passing off my post as "cute" without even giving it a responce. I'm starting to really not like you, Gorf.

cute indeed

Yea pretty much that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

actually Gord
let's team up

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You can be ben stiller and i'll be owen wilson

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Damnit you ninja'd me with an image I can't see.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Starsky and Hutch.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I wasnt referring to his flip, but to if hes scum or not.

It comes down to this:

everyone thinks inferno is scum
i think his actions are scummy but his intentions not
i cant reread on inferno yet want to pursue how much truth mu intentread has, i cant remember the last time my gut failed me
i want to defend town if i think he is.

Note that i never defended (or intended to) inferno, im just saying that my gut says town and i just want time is all

Hey look at Brosuke voicing Infernotown.

 

[Lore]

@your "look how he words his stance" post:

Gorf, try actually reading the posts. In the first one I was saying that even though I didn't have too much of a scum feel on him, losing a "flavor cop" wasn't that bad.

In the second, I noticed that he was a tracker, so I told people to really question the loss of a tracker if it was just an info lynch. If anyone was just lynching for info, I was telling them to back off and think again.

Then I delved back into rereading, and I came out with THIS read before Brosuke really started pushing town Inferno:

Brosuke? Fair enough.

Anyway, my final thoughts on the Inferno wagon before bed:

I don't really like it. After a reread, I can see how Inferno's posts can easily just be taken as dumb posting, and when you take that away, there's not much left other than a connection to Acro.

I don't personally believe that that's enough for a lynch, but if the rest of town thinks that his flip, scum or otherwise, would be beneficial to town, I suppose that there could be far worse choices. However, I still think that he will maybe, if not probably, flip town, so I will refrain from voting.

I was saying here that I was against Inferno's lynch, but since I saw that Ryker and others were dead set on lynching him, I conceded that his lynch had at least some merits.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Werekill, is your restriction to be overly emotional like J?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Brosuke? Fair enough.

Anyway, my final thoughts on the Inferno wagon before bed:

I don't really like it. After a reread, I can see how Inferno's posts can easily just be taken as dumb posting, and when you take that away, there's not much left other than a connection to Acro.

I don't personally believe that that's enough for a lynch, but if the rest of town thinks that his flip, scum or otherwise, would be beneficial to town, I suppose that there could be far worse choices. However, I still think that he will maybe, if not probably, flip town, so I will refrain from voting.

HEY LOOK AT WEREKILL'S (still pretty weak) STANCE ON INFERNO, CONVENIENTLY AFTER BROSUKE'S?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Vote: Werekill

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@your "look how he words his stance" post:

Gorf, try actually reading the posts. In the first one I was saying that even though I didn't have too much of a scum feel on him, losing a "flavor cop" wasn't that bad.

In the second, I noticed that he was a tracker, so I told people to really question the loss of a tracker if it was just an info lynch. If anyone was just lynching for info, I was telling them to back off and think again.

Then I delved back into rereading, and I came out with THIS read before Brosuke really started pushing town Inferno:



I was saying here that I was against Inferno's lynch, but since I saw that Ryker and others were dead set on lynching him, I conceded that his lynch had at least some merits.

So you sacrificed your read due to the fact majority was on him?

Actually why are you delving and trying to defend the fact he was PR, shouldn't his play be more of a factor?

 

[Lore]

HEY LOOK AT WEREKILL'S (still pretty weak) STANCE ON INFERNO, CONVENIENTLY AFTER BROSUKE'S?

Wow, you're either being stupid right now, or you're scum. Not sure which.

Brosuke said that he had a gut feeling and wanted to reread. That's all.

I flat out came out and said that I thought that he was towny a few posts after that with a bit of good reasoning that was unrelelated to Brosuke's, and you're saying that I'm hiding behind Brosuke's "gut feeling" post? Stop being stupid.

@soup: will reply in a sec

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Is Uncle the guy from Jackie Chan Adventures?

And that AtE from Inferno is... odd. Odd as in making me feel odd about him, not that it's odd itself. It could easily have been faked, but I guess I can understand where he's coming from with it. If he had a rough day, then he had a rough day.

I don't think it makes him scummier, though. I'm willing to switch to Soup, I suppose.

I feel this is worthy of quoting.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Vote: Werekill

I didn't even need a case or a july post to get your read, you're the best partner i could ever have ben stiller

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

You know calling me stupid won't hurt my credibility mang.

 

[Kantrip]

Vote: Werekill

Damn, how did I miss that neutrality on my first read?

 

[Lore]

Werekill, what's your read on Kantrip?

He's on my reread list for toDay, but from what I remember, he's been in the background a decent bit. However, I vaguely remember him having a bit of towny intent, so for now, null.

So you sacrificed your read due to the fact majority was on him?

Actually why are you delving and trying to defend the fact he was PR, shouldn't his play be more of a factor?

No, I just saw no real chance of flipping it around, so I didn't struggle against it because I saw at least some merit to the lynch.

And you misread that bit. I was rereading his play in order to decide my read on him. His PRness was never on the agenda.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

His PRness was never on the agenda.

haBULLS***.

 

[Lore]

Werekill, is your restriction to be overly emotional like J?

Nah, I'm like that in all my games, haha. I'm trying my best to do better in this one, though.