UTrick'd2, OVER! Mafia wins!

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I hate making large posts.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

I am profoundly disappointed in you sir.

How is it that one of your analytical thinking spots the ONE AND ONLY flavor crumb that wasn't batman-related, yet somehow doesn't see the motivation here?

You've put us in a bad position now because if you push this further you're going to undermine our goals here. I advise you cease and desist, lest we end up useless as a result of your bad case.

You even had MORE of our posts in good/average than bad, so idk what the damn point of cataloging them was.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'll drop you if you start doing something, deal?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

3 in good
4 in average
8 in bad
4 in pointless

For example, for Tblock I believe I'd have close to if not 0 in bad.

 

[T-block]

damn right i'd have 0

do you really want zeke lynched today, brosuke?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

The main point here is actively creating content.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

and getting Zeke to do something because it's REALLY hard to believe that someone who claimed COP without counterclaim would sit around and do NOTHING.

 

[T-block]

i thought you were good at reading past surface level?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Zeke lacks town intent to me. Don't you agree?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Look I'd be dumb to do this

PlayerX: "Okay so it's not Inferno. Who is it then?"
Xonar: "lol dunno :3 :3"

 

[T-block]

every time i read brosuke post about how inferno wouldn't claim tracker and stuff i start to second guess my read on inferno

but then i re-read the way he reacted to acrostic's wagon and realize there's just no ****ing way

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Zeke lacks town intent to me. Don't you agree?

re-ask

10char

 

[T-block]

Zeke lacks town intent to me. Don't you agree?

not necessarily

your list of good posts is evidence against that assertion. the claim is null - why are you ignoring everyone who tries to tell you that?

the slot is null to me, but we're sure as hell not lynching a cop with no hint of a cc

 

[T-block]

do you think werekill has town intent then?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

not necessarily

your list of good posts is evidence against that assertion. the claim is null - why are you ignoring everyone who tries to tell you that?

the slot is null to me, but we're sure as hell not lynching a cop with no hint of a cc

What you think a scummy would have NO good posts?

I'm also putting his claim in relation to his play.

do you think werekill has town intent then?

Yes. Don't you?

 

[T-block]

The main point here is actively creating content.

Look I'd be dumb to do this

PlayerX: "Okay so it's not Inferno. Who is it then?"
Xonar: "lol dunno :3 :3"

vote: Brosuke

still want inferno dead, but i'm going to voice my stance on this right now

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh boy .

 

[T-block]

What you think a scummy would have NO good posts?

I'm also putting his claim in relation to his play.

so once you think someone is scum, any good posts are just scum playing well?

can't we say that about inferno's "good" posts then?

Yes. Don't you?

i've seen some, but i think if you're going to label zeke as having no town intent, you can't label werekill as having town intent

prove me wrong

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

so once you think someone is scum, any good posts are just scum playing well?

can't we say that about inferno's "good" posts then?

Where the F is your brain?

Maybe you could. *shrug* I see him as town.

i've seen some, but i think if you're going to label zeke as having no town intent, you can't label werekill as having town intent

prove me wrong

I'd like you to tell me how Werekill is having no town intent rather than me proving to you that he has.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Don't you think it's WEIRD that a non-counterclaimed BULLET PROOF COP is playing like Zeke is playing?

 

[T-block]

IN THIS THREAD: DUMB PEOPLE WHO THINK RYKER IS SCUM.

This whole thing is completely unrelated to his alignment: See UPick Poke-mafia.

So you have no basis for ScumRyker, nor those votes.

SO SAYS THE GODDAMN BATMAN.

I'm quite perturbed that you think it's not natural, T-Block.

THE GODDAMN BATMAN INQUIRES WITH RESPECT TO AN EXPLANATION.

What makes you think Inferno's AtE is faked?

these have town intent, and i know you saw it too. but you dismissed any town intent as "oh, scum is bound to have some towny looking posts" - it's true, but it shows you're claiming zeke lacks town intent without even looking for it

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Weight - Counterweight

Don't you think it's WEIRD that a non-counterclaimed BULLET PROOF COP is playing like Zeke is playing?

 

[T-block]

Maybe you could. *shrug* I see him as town.

uh huh

I'd like you to tell me how Werekill is having no town intent rather than me proving to you that he has.

nah it's not going to work that way.

first, it's much easier for you to prove that he does have town intent rather than my proving he has not. what do you want me to do, go through all of his posts?

then, i never claimed that i didn't see any town intent in werekill. i'm interested in why you aren't holding werekill to the same standards as you are holding zeke to.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I am holding them to the same standards. I have no business with Werekill at the moment.

 

[T-block]

I could've sworn I just posted in here. I have this really bad habit of thinking I've posted and then just exiting the page I guess. Anyways, I don't see any of the 3 claims as particularly relevant.

Inferno's role is really unindicative of alignment. It's just a flavor/tracker combination thing of sorts, there's no reason scum can't have that.

Soup's claim is weird. I can agree with Ryker's notion that scum has no business claiming governor/motivator/motivator stupidity party time or whatever his role is. At the same time I find it plausible that he doesn't actually have the motivator part of the role. Proving that you can prevent someone from being roleblocked is really easy for scum. Especially if Meadowsizzle is right in calling Acrostic as the roleblocker. There's also the possibility that Soup is being Soup and is pulling some horrendous gambit regardless of alignmentg. Never count that out.

There's also some odd logistics going on with his claim. The motivator part kind of implies that there is/was indeed a roleblocker in this set-up. How would a sequence where Soup targets Player A, and then Player A targets the Roleblocker, and Roleblocker is targeting Player A work? Player A would be able to target Roleblocker through his Roleblock, making the Roleblock never fail, making Player A get roleblocked (but then he never targeted the roleblocker)! And also the night action resolution on this whole situation is ten kinds of hell as well. I can't even begin to figure out how that works. In short Soup's claim is a hellhole for night action logic and I'd prefer not to think too much about it. It's also just possible that Glyph has thought this out or he just never planned it in general and is now like "oh god damnit."

I don't particularly understand the motives for Zeke's claim either. I have a couple ideas but I have no business sharing those. This is just another claim I'd want to look past and look at the player.

And that's it for me talking about claims. Brosuke. Perhaps I'm giving him too much lenience but Zeke is still on my good side, all claim speculation aside.

why are you assuming roleblocker again?

soup's ability probably just lets people go through acrostic's smog. occam's razor?

meadow, you've stopped doing stuff. can you get back into playing the game now?

 

[T-block]

I am holding them to the same standards. I have no business with Werekill at the moment.

then find me posts of werekill's that show town intent, and show me why we can't just dismiss those as a post from scum that happened to be towny, as you did with zeke's posts

you have no business with werekill, but i have business with you. this is important for my read on you.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I still have a question open for you.

Why don't you be a good boy and answer it while I exhaust myself opening Werekills post history?

 

[T-block]

thanks buddy

is it this one?

Weight - Counterweight

Don't you think it's WEIRD that a non-counterclaimed BULLET PROOF COP is playing like Zeke is playing?

umm.... yes, but i'm not going to pretend to be certain that it's scum play just because it's weird

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

What? Don't twist my words.

I'll drop you if you start doing something, deal?

The main point here is actively creating content.[...]and getting Zeke to do something because it's REALLY hard to believe that someone who claimed COP without counterclaim would sit around and do NOTHING.

No, I'm not backtracking on finding him scummy. And yes, I'd much rather have Ryker with his cop power. I'm not certain he's scum, I'm saying he's scummy, or at the very least anti-town.

 

[T-block]

His opinion of Soup. Of Brosuke, of the claims, his habit of saying things I want said before I can. He's playing a lot like J did for me in Rusty Guillotine, the only game I've ever held hands with a player as town. I would hold hands with him and Meadow this game.

I am doing things, and a lot of it consists of shooting down bad theories on how you could be town which includes a lot of calling for your death, so I'm goof to stop talking to you know. I'll leave you with this message. Die Inferno. Go find a fire and bathe in it. Take a long walk off a short pier with cement overshoes. Mutter something about Rosebud and have a heartattack. I don't care how, just do it and stop trying to drag my name through the mud you play in.

i would hold hands with you this game as well. not sure about meadow though. do you want to elaborate on why you trust him? you don't have to if you don't want to

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

vote: Brosuke

still want inferno dead, but i'm going to voice my stance on this right now

Also waiting for this.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Just reskimmed Werekills posts and can't see anything but a towny trying to be helpful. I really want to know the roots of your accusations comparing Werekill and Zeke, because Zeke has put forth ZERO effort.

 

[Raziek]

Brosuke, the goddamn batman demands you go back and read our crumb, and use your ****ing head.

I shouldn't have to spell it out so goddamn clearly when you already noticed it.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Brosuke, the goddamn batman demands you go back and read our crumb, and use your ****ing head.

I shouldn't have to spell it out so goddamn clearly when you already noticed it.

Golly gee batman, that sure was derpy of me!

 

[Zeke the Moth]

I sure am glad F8AL can't infract me for double-posting in here.

In all seriousness, do we practically see this day ending in a lynch other than Inferno or Soup? I don't really feel comfortable with lynching either, but I'm not seeing many other places to go right now.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Brosuke, the goddamn batman demands you go back and read our crumb, and use your ****ing head.

I shouldn't have to spell it out so goddamn clearly when you already noticed it.

...Seriously? You're talking about that?

Can you crumb how it alludes to you being town?

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Just did. Seriously.

Look at our claim. Look at what you think about it. Look at our other crumb, then get off the goddamn batman's nuts.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH

Unvote

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Like wtf how did I miss that.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

About ****ing time. You may have ruined the whole damn thing already by me having to get this under control, but at least I got a Town read in the process.