Smash 3DS Update 1.0.4 Released!

[neohopeSTF]

Kinda bummed about replays, wanted to keep my Ganondorf in Home Run Contest replay.
Though I am interested in what the balancing is and how much it will affect what we already know about the game.

 

[lordvaati]

RIP Eggstant Transmission.

 

[Twewy]

well the momentum glitch with wario is, most others still exist though

well the momentum glitch with wario is

 

[elmike]

Might be the only one that doesn't think Rosalina should be nerfed at all, but if she had to be nerfed I'd say Luma respawn timer,

This is the only nerf i would like to see.

And some buffs to many characters.

Whats to be nerfed about lucario?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

This is the only nerf i would like to see.

Or maybe, ya know, her roll.

 

[JmacAttack]

I swear to god if sheik gets nerfed due to all the scrubs complaining about her i'm foing to rage quit. sakurai already ruined marth and falco for me as is and i can't tolerate getting another character i actually enjoy immensely trashed again

I doubt Sheik will get nerfed, actually. Sheik can rack up % really well, but struggles to kill against savvy opponents. Well played Ness might even be a bad matchup for her. Sakurai does seem loathe to make balance changes without urgency being there, and Sheik might be good, but not unbeatable.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Way to go Team Sakurai!!! <3 <3 <3

 

[Raijinken]

I don't even care what the changes are. I just want confirmation of balance changes, even if that means my characters become terrible.

Realistically, though, it's probably nerfs to Mac, because he always wins Conquest when he's in.

 

[Pazzo.]

Wow... look at all that stability though..

O_O

 

[Techno Hunter]

Everybody asking for buffs, nerfs and fixes, while I'm just waiting to see Pitto and Lucina getting more unique attributes( Please developers, if possible), I mean, cant they at least make Pitto a faster counterpart or something?

 

[Terotrous]

I'm almost 100% positive that the only changes will be glitches being fixed. Of course, this will break any replays where the glitches were used.

 

[DarkKiru]

Honestly, i don't care what kind of changes they do, as long as they arn't unnecessary ones

(E.g: Nerfing Zelda, or someone else who ISN'T a problem character)

Kinda hoping for actual patch notes this time.

 

[DeiSakuChris]

How is it allowed that in 2014 a video game patch remove replays from a game ?

 

[Terotrous]

How is it allowed that in 2014 a video game patch remove replays from a game ?

It doesn't remove them, just old replays no longer work.

The reason why this occurs is because the replays are just a log of button inputs. Changing the game causes the inputs to do different things and thus the replay desyncs.

Pretty much every game that has replays and patches has this issue.

 

[smasher1001]

they could have just made it programmed so that the game loads up the default game, then has a variable for each version of the game, 1.0, 1.1, etc. merely have the game check the version the patch was, and stop loading the patches to memory for that replay. bam, done. I'm assuming the reason this wasn't done is they didn't build the programming for the ground up expecting to do patches, so there'd be no need to code the replays etc in such a way, and by the time they realized it it would be too much work to recode. just my guess.

 

[TTTTTsd]

Loading up old game code becomes incredibly problematic if more versions continue to exist, and really they can only expect so much out of your SD card.

 

[Lemon Girl]

Hope they nerf Lucario's recovery.

 

[Opossum]

I'm just hoping for Olimar buffs down the line. He needs them badly, in my opinion. Dat AI...

...oh, and Marth range buffs would be nice.

 

[TTTTTsd]

IMO, from my experience, what I'd like to see and what I know probably won't happen either way!

Olimar
- Improved Pikmin AI. The nerf to 3 at a time was bad enough guys.

Dr. Mario
- Run speed that matches Falco's or Luigi's. He simply can NOT do much as of right now and it would really help make him an actual threat in more MUs. He's slower than Dedede!

Like, as far as character changes go, that's all I could really want besides maybe Utilt getting a bit less endlag (2-3 frames) for both Marios. Das it, really.

 

[Phan7om]

Considering that they're saying previous replays will be unusable, it must mean character specific stuff is changed and/or universal character traits are changed. Of course the glitches will be removed, but im sure everyone's replays doesnt include a glitch in every single one. Therefore, a big change must have something else to do with all characters.

Hopes go out to changes being Rolls, or Shield Stun.

As for character balance, im sure their "tier list" doesnt match ours, so expect bad characters to get worse or good characters to get better. Balance to them are basically changes in knockback or shield damage... so Ganon is probably OP to them lol.

 

[many37]

This is nice and all but that means that I have to record my replays before updating and I am full of them.

Apparently, I had to do it sooner than later *sigh*

 

[Hitman JT]

Nerf the rolls, nerf the rolls, nerf the rolls, nerf the rolls, for the love of all that is holy nerf the rolls


And make it so Luma can't attack when Rosie's in hitstun, that'd be greeeeaaaatttt

 

[TheGingerRussian]

Luma's respawn timer.

If they must, give him more HP.

Just make him take longer than 8 seconds to respawn.

 

[tm730]

rosalina should just take damage as Luma gets hit...after she gets separated tho..maybe like half the actual damage value of the attack

everything else can stay

 

[Zoljinx]

i want just a few things from this patch.

needs Better Pikmin AI, i can't recall a not having a match where i just smashed with nothing when a Pikmin is standing right next to me, or one just runs off randomly when i forward smash.

needs his Hitboxes matched up to his animations. i love using him but his range is so abysmal I'm surprised i can even SOMETIMES win with him.

really that's all i'm wanting. if i think really hard i may come up with some other nit-picky stuff, but the obvious stuff like Wario's flying glitch people have already mentioned so i figured the don't really need repeating.

 

[Twewy]

so Ganon is probably OP to them lol.

Update notes:
-Ganondorf's attack power greatly decreased to add a fair advantage in Home Run Contest.
-Donkey Kong now has more lag on his attacks to make it fair for Multi-Man Smash.
-Rosalina and Luma's Luma respawn timer changed from 8 seconds to 3 seconds.
-Yoshi now has super armor on all his aerials, increased range on stars from Ground Pound.
-Updated localization files.

 

[JetpackX]

But...But my replay data... I... I liked my replay data....

 

[TheAverageBear]

I hope they buff Marth a little bit and, this next one's a long shot, allow us to change the voice actors to different languages. I hate Fox's English voice in Smash 4, would gladly take the Japanese one or heck, maybe even the Spanish one depending on how he sounds.

 

[JetpackX]

this next one's a long shot, allow us to change the voice actors to different languages.

Yes. YES. YES. Even if there was only a English / Japanese voicepack option, that would still be amazing.

Japanese Voice Acting > English Voice Acting. (in most cases)

 

[Chocobo Link]

I'd like to see more differences between Pit and Dark Pit. Make Dark Pit more slower and powerful and Pit vice versa, I dunno

 

[many37]

Nerf the rolls, nerf the rolls, nerf the rolls, nerf the rolls, for the love of all that is holy nerf the rolls


And make it so Luma can't attack when Rosie's in hitstun, that'd be greeeeaaaatttt

Roll spamming is already a bad strategy. Nerfing the rolls would render them unusable.

 

[LancerStaff]

If there's going to be any changes, besides glitche fixes, you can bet it'll be for Mac and/or Rosalina. They're basically the only characters you hear about.

Everybody asking for buffs, nerfs and fixes, while I'm just waiting to see Pitto and Lucina getting more unique attributes( Please developers, if possible), I mean, cant they at least make Pitto a faster counterpart or something?

I'd like to see more differences between Pit and Dark Pit. Make Dark Pit more slower and powerful and Pit vice versa, I dunno

I'd much rather he doesn't change. It's nice that I can main one, get the other free, so to speak.

 

[Terotrous]

they could have just made it programmed so that the game loads up the default game, then has a variable for each version of the game, 1.0, 1.1, etc. merely have the game check the version the patch was, and stop loading the patches to memory for that replay.

This is possible, but requires the game to maintain multiple versions of its data files, one for every patch. It's generally considered not to be worth the extra space it requires.

 

[Starman15]

I don't care what this patch does, as long as any characters I enjoy playing such as Ness, Zero Suit Samus, or Wii Fit Trainer don't get ruined, and glitches like Wario's momentum get fixed, I'll be a-ok.

 

[Funkermonster]

Refining the strength of some fighters..... So they ARE making character changes.. When the game has only been out for like 2 measly months. This is a stupid idea Nintendo, please cancel the patch and leave the game balance alone, only 2 months of the game's lifespan is WAY too early to mess with the balance. At first I would've been happy to have balance patches, but now I'm starting to doubt this idea.

 

[TTTTTsd]

2 months is plenty of time for really minor tweaks. It's not like they've turned the game upside on its head, I still think they left Doc's horrible grounded movement speed intact, among other things. Just little tweaks and bugfixes is all I really expect.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Refining the strength of some fighters..... So they ARE making character changes.. When the game has only been out for like 2 measly months. This is a stupid idea Nintendo, please cancel the patch and leave the game balance alone, only 2 months of the game's lifespan is WAY too early to mess with the balance. At first I would've been happy to have balance patches, but now I'm starting to doubt this idea.

 

[warionumbah2]

>Prevent Rosa from hitting when grabbed or in hitstun
>Extend MK's range.
>Allow us to taunt more than 3 times in FG

 

[Lemon Girl]

Update notes:
-Ganondorf's attack power greatly decreased to add a fair advantage in Home Run Contest.
-Donkey Kong now has more lag on his attacks to make it fair for Multi-Man Smash.
-Rosalina and Luma's Luma respawn timer changed from 8 seconds to 3 seconds.
-Yoshi now has super armor on all his aerials, increased range on stars from Ground Pound.
-Updated localization files.

Soldier confirmed?

 

[EmblemCrossing]

-I'd like buffs for Villager, possibly making her dash attack have less end lag on it, and maybe a bit less end lag on the axe. I'd use the axe more often if it wasn't so unsafe.

-Don't really want to see Lucina changed any further, I actually really like her as almost a pure clone. (I'm already worried about Smash 5 and her possibly being Luigified)

-Maybe get that speed up a bit? I feel like that's the only thing preventing her from being a solid threat.

-Make her better. Please. Anything.