Unpopular Smash 4 Opinions v2.0 - Read the OP before posting!

[HeavyLobster]

I actually want the game to be slower than Melee.
I don't really like the addition of so many powerful items, as I feel a lot of the new items tend to make it too easy to win just by getting lucky item spawns and don't compliment the game in the way that items in Smash 64 and Melee did, but cause the gameplay to devolve into just getting the OP press-A-to-win item instead of rewarding smart item use.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

- Pfft, you can hate on Lucina all you want, but right now she's just laughing down at you haters from her ivory tower since she's playable. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Same goes for every playable character really. (Ugh, admittedly Miis too. But their tower is stupid.)
- I'm all for custom special attacks, but custom character stats like jump and attack power I have absolutely no interest it and I loathe it just as much as Stickers for the SSE.
- I get the feeling that a large percent of the unlockables will be hats and costumes for the filthy disgusting Miis. It probably would've been cool if we could have Samus in a Mario hat or Ike with the Metaknight mask but nope. It's just Miis, therefore I hate it. #unpopularopinions

 

[Ignoth]

I don't mind the lack of villains, some villains are simply too awesome to be fighters. (Watching Ganondorf frantically sparring with Jigglypuff will always be weird to me) . For the record though, I'm not against them either.

I support remaking veterans (especially the original 12) so that they're up to date with their most recent games.

I believe that those who dislike ZSS redesign (dem heels) are perfectly justified in doing so. I am far more embarrassed about the backlash AGAINST the backlash against the heels.

 

[BBG|Scott-Spain]

Information on changes they've made to the returning characters are more interesting than information on newcomers.

 

[Second Power]

Information on changes they've made to the returning characters are more interesting than information on newcomers.

For me it's as interesting.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Metaknight doesn't need nerfs. Everyone else just needs buffs.

 

[Knife Myths]

http://earthboundcentral.com/2012/10/mother-and-japanese-fans/

http://earthboundcentral.com/2013/04/mother-3-and-japanese-fans-revisited/

Also Hong, something of the resident MOTHER fanatic on these boards has stated it.

MOTHER 3 ironically gets more love from people who can't legally buy the game.

Yeah this reminds me of when Western news outlets ran with the "Japanese fatshame Godzilla!" story when it was just a few people joking around on 2chan. 2chan isn't any better a source than 4chan, people just seem to think it is because they're Japanophiles. Still, I'd be interested in seeing some reviews. I can only find its Famitsu scores and Famitsu gives everything a great score.

 

[Deleted member]

Metaknight doesn't need nerfs. Everyone else just needs buffs.

Super Smash Bros. Minus for Wii U / 3DS

 

[Substitution]

Just because someone is a clone, doesn't mean they're automatically worthless. It's like to fans being a clone is a fate worse than death. Heck, I've seen people say they'd rather have a said character cut than be a clone. It's like we can't accept a character for being a clone, we still have to complain about them because they took some liberties form someone else.

And yes, I understand "wasted potential" and all that, and I understand being original is better. But at least they're in, they have a spot. And it's not the end of the world because we have them (even with how some make it out to be). Let's get that straight.

 

[ChikoLad]

Just because someone is a clone, doesn't mean they're automatically worthless. It's like to fans being a clone is a fate worse than death. Heck, I've seen people say they'd rather have a said character cut than be a clone. It's like we can't accept a character for being a clone, we still have to complain about them because they took some liberties form someone else.

And yes, I understand "wasted potential" and all that, and I understand being original is better. But at least they're in, they have a spot. And it's not the end of the world because we have them (even with how some make it out to be). Let's get that straight.

Not going to argue the point in general here because I agree to an extent, but it's honestly fair in some cases to rather a character not be in Smash than be a clone. If Rosalina was a Peach clone in Smash, like a lot of people thought she would be if she appeared in the game (though anyone who had this mindset clearly didn't know enough about the character), I would actually hate her being in the game, and would indeed rather she not be playable if Sakurai only made her a Peach clone and nothing more. She gets the shallow "Blue Peach" and "Emo Peach" insults thrown at her enough as is, even though they aren't valid, so if she was a literal Peach clone in Smash, those insults would suddenly have a lot of merit and the character's image would have been COMPLETELY destroyed, to the point where she wouldn't be my favourite Nintendo character anymore. She would be commonly perceived as the "Original the Character" of the Mario universe due to being a clone in Smash, meaning being a huge fan of the character suddenly paints a huge target on my head for a character who now wouldn't be worth it in hindsight, since such harsh claims become valid and hard to deny because she is a clone in Smash, in this alternate universe I'm painting here.

I'm incredibly happy Sakurai did the exact opposite for Rosalina in particular, and always knew he would shoot those shoddy claims down through making her really creative as a fighter, but when I think of "what if Rosalina WAS a Peach clone in Smash?", I understand why people would rather a character not show up at all than be a clone. It's a double-edged sword, and sometimes, being a clone isn't worth it for some characters, as it could ruin their image outside of Smash.

And since I know Lucina is the one who really caused all of the concern about clones, I can say that, as someone who doesn't know the character, her Smash portrayal isn't selling the character. Not even because she plays like Marth, but ACTS like him too. At least Ganondorf ACTS totally different to Captain Falcon. At least Toon Link acts very different to Link. At least Lucas acts very different to Ness. I don't get that from Lucina though, which is why I think her status as a clone is especially iffy to people, including myself. As far as Smash is telling me, Marth and Lucina only have one small difference in playstyle (tipper mechanic for Marth being missing from Lucina, making her attacks function much like any other tipper-less sword fighter), and one small difference in character (one is of male sex and the other of female sex...not sure which is which though! :V). So depending on how debates over the character played out before Smash, I would totally understand Lucina fans who would rather she not be in Smash at all than be a clone of Marth, since I had the same worry in my mind over Rosalina at one point.

Not so much arguing your point so much as adding an often overlooked perspective onto it, which could be considered an unpopular opinion in and of itself. Your post just reminded me of it, it was in the back of my mind for a while.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

We need Ridley and K. Rool, but not because we "need more villains". The roster should not have an arbitrary quota to fill for any sort of demographic imposed on it.

Due to the changes to the physics and gameplay, I think walk-offs should at the very least be considered for tournament legality when the game launches, with further experimentation and development of the metagame deciding their ultimate fate.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I have a lot of pros and cons to Lucina being in.

Cons:
Sucked that a Lucina got in before Chrom.
She spoiled Awakening.

Pros:
Didn't see her coming
Will be a clone that I'll use more often than Marth.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm about to say the mother of all unpopular opinions... *gulp*
...
Honestly, I don't care about Ridley at all and I don't entirely see the appeal of him. I don't care if he is a playable character, boss, or stage hazard. He's very unappealing to me...
*FLAME SHIELD ACTIVATED*

 

[Wanderer from Roseyard]

• Future Smash games need to focus on characters from newly-represented series rather than supporting characters from the current series.

• I'm not excited about things like the CSS, who's unlockable, alternate costumes, battle damage or Snake codecs. I just wanna play!

• I strongly believe there will not be DLC content like characters or stages. Balance patches seem probable, though. Still, a lot of people underestimate how much money it costs to distribute those, so they'll be infrequent.

• I'm glad FD and its forms aren't allowed in For Fun mode, or else everyone would pick that stage all the time just like in Brawl.

• For Glory should be 1v1 only rather than 1v1 "possible." It would make the win/lose stat much more accurate than in free-for-alls where your placement varies.

• Brawl's Events with difficulty settings were pointless. The only "difficulty setting" you need is knowing that the early events should be easier and the later ones should be harder.

 

[Naglfarii]

- Pfft, you can hate on Lucina all you want, but right now she's just laughing down at you haters from her ivory tower since she's playable. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Same goes for every playable character really. (Ugh, admittedly Miis too. But their tower is stupid.)
- I'm all for custom special attacks, but custom character stats like jump and attack power I have absolutely no interest it and I loathe it just as much as Stickers for the SSE.
- I get the feeling that a large percent of the unlockables will be hats and costumes for the filthy disgusting Miis. It probably would've been cool if we could have Samus in a Mario hat or Ike with the Metaknight mask but nope. It's just Miis, therefore I hate it. #unpopularopinions

I really like Lucina that's why I hate that she's been made into an easy mode inferior marth

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I'm about to say the mother of all unpopular opinions... *gulp*
...
Honestly, I don't care about Ridley at all and I don't entirely see the appeal of him. I don't care if he is a playable character, boss, or stage hazard. He's very unappealing to me...
*FLAME SHIELD ACTIVATED*

Yes, yes.

This.So.Much

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

My only opinion of clones is as long as they could in some way logically be like that. Ganondorf can hit like a rock and clearly has strong magic. He uses an earthquake punch in his first appearance. Him doing a hugely powerful punch filled with magic is outright logical in the end. I want more magic for him, not sword(unless it's two swords).

 

[κomıc]

I'm about to say the mother of all unpopular opinions... *gulp*
...
Honestly, I don't care about Ridley at all and I don't entirely see the appeal of him. I don't care if he is a playable character, boss, or stage hazard. He's very unappealing to me...
*FLAME SHIELD ACTIVATED*

 

[SuperSmashDrake]

-Rhythm Heaven shouldn't have a playable charatcer
-Miis shouldn't be playable
-Miis should use moves based on games they have appeared in, rather than get 3 new sets of movesets that are brand new
-Miis and Wii Fit Trainer should be considered from the same universe, Wii
-Creating two separate games for two completely different consoles is a waste of time and resources
-The Smash Bros. 3DS XL design isn't good
-Snake should return
-The only cuts from Brawl should be Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Pokemon Trainer
-No series should have more characters than Super Mario
-Due to this, Jigglypuff should return and Mewtwo should not
-Target Test should go back to personal stages
-The story mode in Brawl was enjoyable, and I would love to see something similar
-This game should use DLC
-Amibos will be cool for about a week
-Lucina has no reason to be playable
-Palutena has no reason to be playable
-Transformations shouldn't have been scrapped
-Custom moves shouldn't be a thing
-Ridley shouldn't be playable
-Each version should have the same stages, all of which with a Final Destination mode
-If Kid Icarus gets another rep I honestly might cancel my pre-order
-Rosalina has no reason to be playable
-Pac-Man is a great addition
-The removal of gliding is stupid
-MegaMan's universe emblem should be his helmet
-Wii Fit Trainer has no reason to be playable
-More Assist Trophies from Brawl should be revamped like Little Mac
-I think the Special Flag will be game breaking
-Milotic shouldn't appear on N's Castle
-The option to turn off stage hazards shouldn't have been removed
-Galaga Ships should be an Assist Trophy
-The Assist Trophy redesign is ugly
-Trophies from previous entries should be imported to increase the total count
-Half the roster should need to be unlocked, including all 3rd party characters
-F-Zero needs another rep
-Ice Climbers won't be cut, if needed, partner will be rendered like an Assist Trophy
-Masterball shouldn't be an item
-The roster shouldn't exceed 50

 

[Knife Myths]

-The option to turn off stage hazards shouldn't have been removed

It was removed? Since when?

Also, an opinion:

The Smash 3DS XL is so ugly I thought it was an intentionally bad Photoshop that someone made as a joke.

 

[SuperSmashDrake]

It was removed? Since when?

Also, an opinion:

The Smash 3DS XL is so ugly I thought it was an intentionally bad Photoshop that someone made as a joke.

A little while ago someone mentioned that is was removed because of the inclusion of Final Destination variants. So I won't get to play on Willy Castle with its platforms unless I want to deal with the Yellow Devil.

 

[Knife Myths]

Oh, that's what you meant. As far as I know it never existed in the first place, did it? It was always Final Destination variants.

I agree that a hazard toggle would've been nice.

 

[SuperSmashDrake]

Oh, that's what you meant. As far as I know it never existed in the first place, did it? It was always Final Destination variants.

I agree that a hazard toggle would've been nice.

It was in Melee I believe.

 

[Vann Accessible]

I have a single, solitary nitpick.

Where in the flying **** is the stage editor?

This late in development, and there's been no mention of it at all as far as I know, and even in its simplicity, it was easily my favorite part of Brawl.

If it was removed so the game wouldn't have an exploitable hack, I will be severely pissed.

/nitpick

 

[Thegamerguy131]

-I like Miis. Miis are kewl.

-Right now, I don't see Mewtwo returning, as I think that Jigglypuff will be the last Pokemon rep. I could be wrong, though.

-I don't care about Ridley or K.Rool, but I wouldn't mind them, either.

-I'm actually sort of going to miss the pre-release hype. I enjoyed speculating and watching the directs. It was fun. But it is time to SMASH!

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

-Ridley should not be playable (and I'm not using a flame shield)
-Ghiraham should replace Ganondorf
-Lucina should have been a costume for Marth or not in the game at all
-Dark Pit should get his own character slot
-No more 3rd party characters
-The addition of custom special moves is amazing
-I like the Miis
-Leon should be playable before Krystal
-I doubt Mewtwo is coming back
-Chorus Kids should not be playable
-I never believed the Gematsu leak
-Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem, and Pokemon shouldn't get any more reps
-Toon Link, Lucas, Falco, Wolf, Luigi, and Lucario are not clones
-Snake, Ivysaur, Squirtle, and R.O.B should be cut
-No fourth party characters should ever be added
-There shouldn't be any PAID DLC
-Inkling shouldn't be playable until at least Smash 5
-F-Zero should get another character
-Isaac should get 'd
-King Dedede's Final Smash should be the Grand Hammer from Kirby's Return to Dreamland
-Stage Bosses should have an on/off option
-More characters should have completely different customs specials, instead of just variations

 

[TheRealHeroOfWinds]

- FIRE SHIELD ACTIVATE -

- Smash Bros. Melee is the most over rated Smash game. Project M 2.0 should NEVER happen.
- Ridley should only be a boss.
- Isaac should get the Little mac treatment.
- If Chorus Men were to appear they would be the 2nd most unique character (1st one being Wii Fit Trainer.)
- All the newcomers are just fine, except for that god awful Rosalina. She is just sneaking into everything now huh?
- Mewtwo shouldn't return.
- No series will have more characters than Mario.
- I'd be fine if we get DLC, only if it were free.
- Mega Man was over hyped.
- Greninja is getting hate for no reason.
- It's stupid that 'You're too slow!' was changed.
- Pac-Man is pretty unique, back off haters!
- Mii's are a great idea.

 

[Saikyoshi]

• I will be happy when speculation is over because I won't have to listen to assholes infighting over something they don't even know anymore. It used to be exciting, but now it's just exhausting.
• I may be a competitive player, but the word "shine" pisses me off. The name, of the attack, is Reflector.
• I'm less pissed about the high amount of Kid Icarus Uprising representation (which I am absolutely livid about, mind you) than I am about the fact that the Drill Arm and X-Bomb aren't acknowledged as originating in Meteos, which Sakurai also worked on, may I point out.
• The Beetle item should not exist.
• I wouldn't mind paying for DLC characters at all, as long as they're not game breakers. I'm looking at you, PlayStation All-Stars Kat and Isaac Clarke.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

• I'm less pissed about the high amount of Kid Icarus Uprising representation (which I am absolutely livid about, mind you) than I am about the fact that the Drill Arm and X-Bomb aren't acknowledged as originating in Meteos, which Sakurai also worked on, may I point out.

The Drill Arm is from Meteos?

 

[Saikyoshi]

The Drill Arm is from Meteos?

...I just re-checked. I was confusing it with the Driller Bomb.

 

[κomıc]

Items should never be turned off.

All stages has a boss. Even Final Destination.

Nintendo should ban Melee at EVO and force everyone to play Smash 4.

Waluigi should have been playable.

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

- It's stupid that 'You're too slow!' was changed.

IT WAS CHANGED?! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

[praline]

Battle damage is kinda a dumb concept.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I feel like people are way too attached to veterans (in terms of speculation here), there's definitely a big chance someone is going to get cut.

 

[BKupa666]

--The gesture of there being Final Destination forms for all the stages is certainly worth appreciating, but in the long run, I think it will come to be viewed as a negative for polarizing stage designs. Whereas there previously was somewhat of a middle ground between "hectic, crazy stages" and "simple yet brilliant" stages, now, it looks like we're stuck with either "hectic, crazy stages" or "Final Destination." Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be the case, but the idea of a Final Destination mode is just begging for this to happen.

(if someone has already said this in here, my error for being repetitive)

 

[Crawfiish]

-Lucario never has and never will replace Mewtwo. They are completely different characters.
-Same with Greninja.
-Smash doesn't have some predefined number of roster slots. The Wii U disk has 20GB of space on it, THAT is the only thing limiting the content.
-This means that characters aren't ever removed from the final product because another fighter is in. The mere idea of it is ridiculous.
-I don't want Ridley to be a fighter, but if he is in the game I'm not going to ***** endlessly
-Although I dislike them, I think the Mii fighters look better than I had anticipated. Besides, I am looking forwards to pitting politicians against each other on the battlefield
-I think it's cool that Yoshi is standing upright
-I like Toon Link more than regular Link
-I want Snake to return, but if he doesn't I'm not going to ***** endlessly

 

[Flaxr XIII]

- The only good thing about Miis is that they're the new Multi Man things so I can beat the crap out of an endless horde of them.
- My patience is starting to wear thin on how no Wii U modes have been announced yet. At least give us a frigging teaser POTD, Sakurai! You teased Smash Run months before you announced it!
- It's been said that individualized Target Tests take away from expanding the roster, so that's why the have generic sets for all characters. If that's the case, I'd rather have a small roster so we can have individual Target Tests again.
Too late now since we're almost hitting 40 characters already but that's just my stance on the matter.

 

[Zuby]

How can people possibly say that Kid Icarus is disproportionately represented when we don't have a full list of all content yet? How do these people know that other series' will not receive more content that makes the volume of KI stuff "appropriate" in their eyes?

But I do accept when people say that a disproportionate amount of KI content has been revealed so far.

 

[HugoBoss]

So far, Kid Icarus Uprising is disproportionately represented.
Sonic shouldn't have returned
Snake should return
The entire Brawl roster(with the exclusion of Pokemon Trainer) should return. Even if it means DLC
While her return is likely, Jigglypuff literally has nothing going on for her besides being part of the "Original 12"
Never believe in "leaks"
Until I see gameplay footage, I can't support Ridley as a playable fighter
Dixie Kong is not a shoe-in, and Tropical Freeze is not her only merit
Bandana Dee is a cool character, but he is a minor and obscure character in the Kirby series with a small chance of being playable
Pac-Man has an odd moveset
Not the biggest fan of Palutena AKA Sakurai's waifu
While it would be appreciated, Zelda doesn't NEED a newcomer.
Mach Rider should compensate for a Retro newcomer and F-Zero "newcomer"
I don't see the appeal in Lip
I am fine with Takamura's exclusion, he was not a given.
Rosalina was probably the best choice for a Mario newcomer, but not a shoe-in
The comparisons to Brawl scare me
Many Final Smashes should have changed.

 

[BKupa666]

--If you argue incessantly that "X character is a shoo-in/has no chance" based on your own personal feelings (not actual substantiated evidence) and that character turns out to be in or out, that doesn't make you right, it makes you lucky. People should recognize this and not be smug b******s when the game launches in a few weeks.