Unpopular Smash 4 Opinions - share them here!

[Pazzo.]

I think the inclusion of Mii is actually a good idea.

Customizable movesets for them are a terrible idea though.

Let me finish that for you.

Not only are they a good idea, but the Mii will be top tier.

 

[Orngeblu]

*cough*idgafwhaturthoughtsare*cough*

Damn my throat hurts :-)

*cough*okyouwinggnore*cough*

You guys are too dramatic about which characters are in the game.

Well I can't help but feel a character is inferior to the Smash franchise. ;-;

 

[JamesDNaux]

~I don't want to see Little Mac, Bowser Jr, Paper Mario, Dr. Mario, or any sort of Toon Zelda/Ganondorf.
~I would be completely fine with Toad and Waluigi, but I don't really care if they get in or not.
~I wouldn't mind seeing Jiggs leave, a bit sad but I rarely use her anyway.
~I don't care about Lucario much either. Pikachu, Mewtwo, and the Trainer are good enough for me.
~Snake was one of my favorite characters in Brawl, him getting cut from SSB4 would cut my hype in half.
~Brawl's roster was nearly perfect in my eyes, if everyone returned plus K. Rool and Ridley, any other new guys would be icing on the cake.
~I don't really care about any other third parties besides the three we've already had (and possibly Pac-Man).
~Rayman is the only one I do care about, though I'd never expect him to get in. I do think he would fit in amazingly though.
~Banjo and Kazooie are the only characters I'd ever drop everything for and lose my **** over, but only if they were completely bought back by Nintendo.
~Happy Mask Salesman would be the greatest character ever.
~Miss Fit bothered me slightly at first, until I found certain pictures.

 

[Vann Accessible]

I believe the roster size will only be marginally larger than Brawl's, and a few characters will be cut to make some room for newcomers.
I want Miis playable. They would bring something fresh to the series.
I do not want Roy to return. He isn't relevant.
I would prefer Dixie to be playable over K. Rool.
Ike may be cut for Chrom.
I want Snake to return. And yes, I do believe he fits in just fine. Smash Bros SHOULD have a gritty, realistic character. It makes juxtaposition with Kirby and Pikachu more comical.
Lucario should be cut for a 6th gen pokemon, or Mewtwo.
I want the Duck Hunt Dog to be playable. And his taunt should be his old laugh. :D

 

[Commander]

Additional Mario characters of any kind are a waste of a slot.
Any Fire Emblem character that is not a lord, this includes characters like Micaiah and Robin who are not allowed to die but excludes Lucina because she can die, should not get a spot.
Roy is one of the worst choices of the lords to represent Fire Emblem.
I don't think Metroid should get any more characters.
Snake should stay because bombs are cool.
Alt costumes should not be common and should only be for characters like WFT and Wario who have multiple iconic looks. They should definitely never be turning one character into a totally different character.

 

[Jumpman84]

I want SSB4 to have no cuts from Brawl and to bring back the five cut from Melee. I don't care that we would have three Links or two Marios if that was the case. In my opinion, those five are more deserving to be in than any potential newcomer.

 

[Blaziruku]

I really don't know why Ridley should be included as a character, him being scaled down to size looks much weirder than say, Bowser imo. But he will probably be a boss in the adventure mode or something.
I don't think there really needs to be any more pokemon representatives, I mean Pokemon trainer is technically 3, Jigglypuff, Pikachu already make 5, and with Lucario if he stays. Unless they replace Lucario/Pokemon trainer, since I don't think Sakurai would ever remove a character that's been in 2 smash games. (melee+brawl with Jiggly/Pikachu)

 

[FalKoopa]

Boy, this thread is interesting...

- I want Dr. Mario to return as a separate character.

- I want Tingle as a Zelda newcomer.

- I don't want any cuts, not even Snake.

- I'm not bothered much by clones.

- I'm actually excited for veteran reveals.

 

[Niko Mar]

- I would take Chrom over Roy any day

- I would want either Bowser Jr. or Waluigi if there was only one Mario newcomer

- I want the Groose to be loose

- Love that this game is a mix between Brawl and Melee (and probably more like Brawl)

 

[chaoswafflez04]

Finally time to let my inner thoughts out without being criticized.

Honestly, I don't want to see Jigglypuff in the next Smash Bros., the only reason she was in Brawl was because Sakurai had extra time to add in some other characters after adding in Sonic, who can only be unlocked before Jigglypuff, Wolf, and Toon Link. She was also bottom tier in Brawl, making it seem that Sakurai apparently didn't really care for her anymore. Just because she's now a NEW fairy type and was in the original Smash Bros. doesn't mean that she's a 100% complete shoo-in. I'd rather have Mewtwo return, and replace Jigglypuff as the secondary 1st Generation Pokémon rep in Smash from now on, as he has more popularity (yes, I'm talking about ALL of the people who were raging because of Mewtwo's cut), 2 Mega Evolutions, and was hinted at being put back in by Sakurai himself, while I don't see fans being upset as much as they did when Mewtwo was cut if Jiggs were cut.

Starfox DOES NOT NEED A FOURTH REP. Three reps in Brawl was enough, and by adding a 4th rep, it would have the same amount of reps that Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon had in Brawl, making it seem like one of the most important Nintendo franchises, when it hasn't had a NEW (yes, Starfox 64 3D obviously isn't new) game in YEARS.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Boy, this thread is interesting...

Gotta keep things fresh... Smash 4 conversation has been getting a little stale recently.

 

[Morbi]

1. Pokemon Trainer should be cut; however, to reiterate, he is the most logical cut.
2. Meowth should be the next Pokemon Newcomer, even if it means cutting Jigglypuff.
3. I do not think that Smash needs to introduce too many new franchises. Let us utilize what we have, and build upon the current roster.
4. No more retro characters are necessary (excluding Little Mac).

 

[J1NG]

I would only want a maximum of 4 characters per Nintendo franchise.
I am in favor of characters being skins for an existing character (example: Roy as a skin for Marth). It makes the most use of each character slot, and casual players probably couldn't care less as long as their character is playable somehow.
I dislike the idea of having more than one character from any third party franchise.
I dislike character requests that are not main characters from a franchise, or characters that are not Nintendo All-Stars.
I want a few traditional fighting game mechanics to be put into Smash 4, like grab techs and counter hits.

I'll think of some more later.

 

[FalKoopa]

I dislike the idea of having more than one character from any third party franchise.

I'm pretty sure this isn't an unpopular opinion, at least not here.

 

[YoshiandToad]

2. Meowth should be the next Pokemon Newcomer, even if it means cutting Jigglypuff.

WHOA WHOA WHOA! WHOA! Even if it meant cutting your favourite?

Morbid just blew my mind. I knew there was a reason I thought you were a cool cat.

Oh right, let's see...

I think Mewtwo's cool and all, but given half the chance I'd replace him with Alakazam in a heartbeat. That's gonna be very unpopular. Moustaches and spoons are just cooler than failed clone experiments.

I don't think any gen but gen 1 has a Pokemon of huge note outside maybe the starters for each gen and couldn't really care if we got all genwunners in Smash. They are the most famous Pokemon after all.

I think Starfox really only needed Fox and Wolf.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Clones are not bad

I wouldn't care if Awakening didn't get a character

I don't think Pac-Man should be in the game

 

[StupendousMike]

-I don't care about Pokemon or Fire Emblem, so the possibility of Lucario or Ike getting "swapped out" for someone else is perfectly OK with me. It's also why it never bothered me that Mewtwo and Roy got cut.

-I like the idea of a 3DS Smash, but don't think it should be developed side-by-side. Smash should be like Mario Kart... one per machine Nintendo makes, but each one is a unique entity.

-I almost exclusively play as female characters in fighting games, so I'm on the "Smash Needs Moar Girlz" bandwagon. Get Palutena and Dixie in there.

 

[Manny Toons]

- That newcomers should be decided on popularity and not importance, or for the sake of completion in their respective series.
- That Tingle is the most logical Zelda newcomer.
- That Super Smash Bros. 4 not having a Subspace Emissary-esque story mode is the best thing ever.
- That shoving in more female characters just because they're female is pointless, and only memorable, well-liked female characters should appear.
- That Rosalina is still too obscure for Smash despite her recent appearance in 3DW. Waluigi should get in before she does.

Yeah, I edited my post on behalf of the dude above me. :B

 

[Mr.Universe]

- I kinda hope that there's an adventure mode actually somewhat like SSE.

- I actually want Dark Pit as a rep more than any other KI character.

- I'm not saying I hate Marth, but unlike most people, I hate using him.

- I really want SSB4 to add A LOT of villains.

 

[J1NG]

I'm pretty sure this isn't an unpopular opinion, at least not here.

I'm under the impression that there's a large part of the community with desires for characters like Shadow the Hedgehog, Knuckles, Tails, Silver, Cream, etc.
Sorry if I'm raining on someone else's parade, but I think that's kind of overdoing (it in my opinion). There are lots of videos on Youtube which feature a person's "Top Ten Requested Characters for the next Smash", and there are many oddball requests in those videos to say the least.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'm absolutely floored by a lot of these opinions I'm reading. Not in a bad way but in more of a "wow I had no idea someone would think that" sort of way.

This has turned out to be a very entertaining read to say the least.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Oh boy. Incoming wall of opinions.

Spoiler

1. I don't like Wii Fit Trainer and think she/he was a terrible idea, for the reasons stated by BKupa.
2. Actually, I second everything Kupa said.
3. I am against character DLC. I believe that they shouldn't charge money for characters who deserve to be on the disc, and if they pick less important characters as DLC, then that pretty much ignores the point of the game.
4. I like neither Melee nor Brawl's Adventure Modes and I hope 4 does something different from either of them.
5. Character importance should be considered before "uniqueness," in my opinion. Any character can be made unique, but not every unique character is important. Character uniqueness should derive primarily from the developers' creativity, and what they can do based on each character's abilities.
6. I don't care about Palutena or Shulk. I don't think characters with one notable appearance deserve inclusion, barring some exceptions (retros, Sheik, etc). I think an "All-Star" has to have some sort of legacy.
7. The original 12 argument is bad. I don't want any of the 12 to be cut at this time, nor do I think they should be, but I wouldn't hesitate to support the cutting of Jigglypuff or even Ness if the time calls for it.
8. "Relevance" (ie, recency by the way the term is often used) is the worst argument for or against a character's inclusion.
9. I think Roy would be a much better inclusion than Chrom. But I don't care about either getting in and will settle happily for Marth and Ike.
10. I love the series, but I don't want a Pokémon newcomer. I just want everyone from Brawl + Mewtwo. Gen VI didn't really introduce anything that has caught on in the same way Lucario has.
11. I don't want Luigi to be any more decloned than he already has been.
12. Krystal would be a Fox clone even if she did have her staff. And Slippy would be a better choice anyway, though the three Star Fox characters we have now are perfect.
13. I prefer there be fewer cuts than more additions.
14. I honestly think it's totally bogus to cut a Nintendo character, but bring back a third party. That just seems insulting to me. "Yep, Snake's more important to our company than Lucario. Obviously."
15. Costumes should not change one character into another. If that alternate character is important enough to appear as a playable character, they should get their own spot as a clone.
16. I have no strong feelings about Sakurai one way or the other.
17. However, I have no affinity for his infamous and unfunny "trolling". I find such behavior by developers to be childish and unprofessional.
18. I think Lucario and Mewtwo are both equally highly deserving of inclusion.
19. I think Windy Hill was a terrible stage choice. And I hope Sonic doesn't return in future games. I am a long-time fan of the series, so it's not like I hate the character. I just don't want a guest character becoming an incumbent.
20. I wouldn't shed a tear if another female newcomer doesn't show up.
21. The majority of Assist Trophies should be from smaller series without playable representation. Likewise, such series should scarcely be seen with playable characters.
22. I am not totally decided, but I'm leaning toward the opinion that there won't be unlockable characters.
23. I doubt King K. Rool will be playable.
24. The game should borrow some ideas from PlayStation All-Stars (the games can learn from each other; it's not one-sided).
25. I think that characters should be and are included on their own merits, not because their series is designated or obligated a certain amount of "reps". If a large series only has one or two viable character choices, then so be it. It's dumb to try and allot it a bunch of obscure, unimportant "reps" just so that it can somehow meet an imaginary quota. This being said, I do think that series size should be used to regulate character inclusions so that things don't get out of hand. There shouldn't be 10 characters from a very niche series, for example, even if each of those characters is very popular or important in their own right.
26. I am generally against the inclusion of characters who have no history of combat capability. I did not support an Animal Crossing character, for instance. I will, however, definitely try to play - and perhaps main - the Villager, since I love the series.
27. I am absolutely okay with multiple versions of characters. I'd rather have an iconic, important, alternate iteration of a main character than a C-list supporting character from the same series.

 

[mimgrim]

I think there are going to be around a 42 character roster, not counting transformations.
I think there will be 3-5 cuts.
I believe the best cuts would be Falco, not because he is a clone,which he isn't in Brawl, but because SF is practically dead now and only really needs Fox and Wolf to rep it so he wouldn't be replaced with a new SF character, Lucas, against not because he is a clone, which he isn't, but like with the SF series Mother is practically dead and only needs Ness, the only one who was released internationally, to rep it, Lucario or Jiggs but noth both, and Snake, barely any importance to Nintendo any more and just seems like a one time deal.
I want like 4 or 5 new retro reps.
Tiki would be the best new rep for Fire Emblem as she played a important role in 5 of the games and well is a dragon.
I want Chain Grabs to return, this does not include Icies infinite CG.


That's all I got. :L

 

[APC99]

Oh, boy:

-I despise the idea of Chrom and Bowser Junior.
-Dr. Mario should return.
-Nintendog is an important part of Nintendo's history, they can be a character.
-I still hope we see Toad.
-We do not need new characters for Star Fox.
-I'd prefer Tingle over any other Zelda character.
-Geno should be in, I could care LESS for the "one-shot" argument against him.
-I'd like it to be more similar to Brawl.
-Pac-Man should be in.
-I actually want to main Wii Fit Trainer because she's an interesting character.

 

[1MachGO]

RIDLEY IS COMPLETELY FEASIBLE AS A CHARACTER
PS: This image was taken from the opening of Super Smash Bros. Melee a game which SAKURAI has worked on. For those who don't know: SAKURAI = Man who says Ridley is too big for Smash Bros. But likes to make cutscenes where Ridley is only a little too big for smash bros and could be toned down a bit to be in Smash Bros. Much like how Kirby was greatly enlarged for Smash Bros.

 

[Diddy Kong]

-Ridley in fact should not be expected as a character
-I want Impa to replace Sheik
-I want Impa in general

 

[FinalStarmen]

1. Roy is an extremely overrated Fire Emblem character, especially with better alternatives (the Avatar, Lyndis, and Anna).

2. The inclusion of Miis would be a great idea, especially in terms of customization for appearances (not move-set, though).

3. Vaati is, and has always been, a god-awfully terrible choice for a Zelda character. Tingle is a more approachable character.

4. While the 3DS is irrefutably leaps and bounds superior to the Wii U (in terms of game-play *subject to change*), I do fear the music and stage selections for Smash 3DS will be far weaker than Smash Wii U, because historical precedence dictates home consoles having better selections of such musical and stage inspiration than handheld consoles (i.e. Super Mario 3D Land < Super Mario Galaxy 1 or 2).

5. Toad and Bowser Jr. aren't interesting characters to begin with, and never have been. I'd rather have characters who bring excitement and hype with their move-set potentiality and game-play style - Toad and Bowser Jr. just don't seem, in the very least, appealing to me in this regard.

6. Masahiro Sakurai is not an intentional troll-master. It's just a fictional narrative, fabricated as a coping mechanism for people who want to reduce the stress of otherwise not getting the character reveals or screen shots they wanted.

7. I would not care if Goku is a playable character, if he forever remains the only manga/anime character to be included (no Luffy, Naruto, Ichigo, etc.).

8. Solid Snake (and perhaps Wolf) may very well have the dubious distinction of a character with the worst arguments against inclusion in Super Smash Brothers 4 I have ever bore witness to.

9. Wii Fit Trainer seems to be highly protected by Sakurai within the daily screen shots. In fact, I would even indicate favoritism towards the character.

10. Most importantly:
The term "Nintendo All-Star" is a useless term in context of character inclusions for Super Smash Brothers, as it cannot necessarily apply to all thus-far included characters (Mother characters, Fire Emblem characters, Ice Climbers). Therefore, one should not even bother with the argument.

 

[Diddy Kong]

-Wanted Sonic cut
-Don't want PacMan anywhere near Smash
-Was upset MegaMan made it in

 

[MrsAccount]

Both Falco and Wolf are really boring characters and an over-representation of Star Fox.
I despise it whenever people expect any character.

 

[yoonb]

-I dread the idea of Pac-Man and Mii making an inclusion in Smash. (I'd get used to Pac, though, probably)
-A 5th Pokemon character makes more sense than a 5th Mario character.
-I do not want Dixie Kong in my Smash Bros.
-I prefer Lucario to Mewtwo.
-I don't care for Paletuna, you could give me Magnus and I'd be happier with him.
-Toon Link is the best choice for a fourth Legend of Zelda character.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Alt costumes should not be common and should only be for characters like WFT and Wario who have multiple iconic looks. They should definitely never be turning one character into a totally different character.

To get rid of some of the more boring clone like characters, alternate costumes should be used to make one character into another character to try to cut back on the sadness of your character being cut, while allowing more development time on other characters.

 

[No Control]

- Something about Lucas really annoys me.
- I think that Marth and Fox are the only reps really needed for Star Fox and Fire Emblem respectively.
- I don't want extensive costume options.

 

[Kapus]

I'm under the impression that there's a large part of the community with desires for characters like Shadow the Hedgehog, Knuckles, Tails, Silver, Cream, etc.

The first four maybe, but nobody wants Cream the Rabbit.

Anyway,

- I don't want Bowser Jr., Paper Mario or Waluigi as playable characters, and I'm more or less indifferent on Toad and Rosalina. I simply don't think Mario needs any more characters.
- I want this installment to branch out to currently unrepped franchises as much as possible. With the exception of a few essentials from already repped franchises (Ridley, K. Rool), I want the roster to focus primarily on series that are unrepped, new and old. I want to see as many different Nintendo franchises come together in battle as possible.
- I don't want Pac-Man in this game.
- Peach's veteran reveal was one of the most exciting things for me thus far.
- I think Little Mac deserves to be in, but I can't picture him being fun to play as.

 

[Moon Monkey]

- Krystal as a character
- Simon should replace Snake as the Konami character.
- No more Mario characters
- Ridley doesn't have that big of a chance anymore.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Here's some more opinions:
-I will be of relief if Ridley ends up being a stage hazard, same thing for K. Rool.
-I think is Anna is unique enough to outprioritize Ike.
-I really don't care if Zoroark has to replace any of the current Pokemon characters, I just want him to be in Smash. He deserves it.
-I like Prince Sable alot more than any other retro, his franchise is so special to me, it deserves the revival the most.
-I want Fire Emblem to go on the general route (Hence Tiki and Anna), so everyone will stop bullcrapping about recent lords.
-Goku is the only non-Nintendo character that should be in Smash Bros.
-I like the concept of Mr. Hanafuda more than Daitouryou.
-Maybe it's just Dark Dawn fever, but I don't think Golden Sun deserves a character as of yet.
-I really like the idea of AR Man being playable in Smash. He actually brings alot of new things to the table.
-Shulk should be an AT, I want to see where Xeno series goes first before warranting a character.

 

[Commander]

I think Anna is unique enough to out prioritize Ike.

That's a surprise.

 

[Xermo]

-The game would be much better with less pokemon and a larger representation for every series.
-Casual play looks reaaaaaaally fun.
-Becoming Brawl+ 4 WiiU isn't such a bad thing.

 

[Commander]

Damn double posts. Is there a way to delete these?

 

[TumblrFamous]

• I never liked Pokemon Trainer, and if there were cuts, I want him out immediately.
• I have never advocated or supported Ridley. I don't care if he gets in or not. (though I'm sympathetic to those who want him)
• This will probably be the last Smash game period, or at least the last one I will follow.
• I don't want a perfectly balanced game, it'd be a bit too boring. But every character should be good enough to play competitively.
• Big One: I want Sora in this game.

 

[TumblrFamous]

RIDLEY IS COMPLETELY FEASIBLE AS A CHARACTER
PS: This image was taken from the opening of Super Smash Bros. Melee a game which SAKURAI has worked on. For those who don't know: SAKURAI = Man who says Ridley is too big for Smash Bros. But likes to make cutscenes where Ridley is only a little too big for smash bros and could be toned down a bit to be in Smash Bros. Much like how Kirby was greatly enlarged for Smash Bros.

I don't think this is an unpopular opinion.