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Unofficial Marth Matchup Ratio Topic

Player-3

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vs :metaknight: 40:60

vs :snake: 55:45

vs :diddy: 45:55

vs :falco: 55:45

vs :wario: 55:45

vs :marth: 50:50

vs :popo: 50:50

vs :olimar: 60:40

vs :pikachu2: 60:40

vs :dedede: 20:80

vs :gw: 60:40

vs :lucario: 55:45

vs :zerosuitsamus: 55:45

vs :toonlink: 65:35

vs :kirby2: 65:35

vs :fox: 60:40

vs :rob: 50:50

vs :pit: 60:40

vs :peach: 55:45

vs :dk2: 50:50

vs :luigi2: 65:35

vs :wolf: 50:50

vs :sonic: 65:35

vs :ike: 65:35

vs :sheik: 60:40

vs :ness2: 65:35

vs :pt: 60:40

vs :yoshi2: 60:40

vs :lucas: 65:35

vs :mario2: 65:35

vs :bowser2: 60:40

vs :falcon: 80:20

vs :samus2: 65:35

vs :jigglypuff: 70:30

vs :link2: 60:40

vs :zelda: 75:25

vs :ganondorf: 75:25
 

Raziek

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Yes, that's a joke, P3 is trolling. You'd know that if you were in the Marth AiM chat. xD

He's notorious for whining about the match-up, even though he knows it isn't that awful.
 

Pierce7d

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I just find it confusing that you think we beat ROB and DK (We don't), but you think MK is no big deal, and Pikachu and Ike are close to even?

It just seems like you might be over-compensating for skill disparity, to me. Just because the best Pikachu might give you trouble, doesn't mean Marth doesn't still have a solid 60:40 on Pikachu as a character.

That said, Pikachu isn't nearly as easy as we once thought.
This

80:20 Dedede WHAT THE ****, is that a joke?
LOL, obviously a personal problem/troll, but you might as well list it up, because he's posted it publicly. It goes under his name anyway.
 

_Kadaj_

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Throw that P***y at me? B***h I think Im Babe Ruth
You just contradicted your statement, I said the ratios at the highest lvls of play, you questioned my ratio and then went on to basically say that I was on to something...

But I have more DK and Rob exp more than any other Marth player, this I am absolutely positive of. The reason Marth gets the slight Overall adv over DK is that he can't attack safely with anything he does, he has no REAL means of landing once airborne and he can't legitimately recover w/o eating 70-80 percent each time he's offstage these are all basic things that destroy DK in the long run. I have beating pretty much every top DK in tourney besides the ones from midwest, but on that note they aren't really better than the ones on the EC anway

As for ROB it's pretty much the same deal except he has a LITTLE bit more safer Options, but after it's all said and done it is almost a rehash of the DK mu except he has an even harder time killing and dies earlier than DK would.

As for Ike you haven't played the Marth v Ike MU until you have played San. No one utilizes his move set or uses him at that high of a lvl besides San, some are good with Ike but not on the same plateau
 

Anaky

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Yes, that's a joke, P3 is trolling. You'd know that if you were in the Marth AiM chat. xD

He's notorious for whining about the match-up, even though he knows it isn't that awful.
The Marth AiM chat? Hmm i think i shud get AiM, brb signing up :3.
 

Pierce7d

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Kadaj, you have vids of beating Cable or Will? (not asking you to prove it, just asking to study the vids, LOL)

Also, we do think you're on to something, but I don't agree with your list at large, which is obviously okay, just sharing why.
 

Player-3

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ddd is stupid

difficulty its 60-40 (same is mk IMO) but the gay that you're playing agaisnt adds another 20 points



obv
 

_Kadaj_

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Throw that P***y at me? B***h I think Im Babe Ruth
Yeah I understand Pierce, I wish my matches with Will were recorded :(

Me and Cable have only played serious friendlies, we do so at like every tourney we got to. Maybe next time I'll see if we can record matches

We played Will and Kirin in teams at DC (I only mention this because it was on the main stage, idk if you saw me fighting Will or not)
 

Mr-R

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Heres mine

vs :metaknight: 40:60

vs :snake: 55:45

vs :diddy: 50:50

vs :falco: 60:40

vs :wario: 55:45

vs :marth: 50:50

vs :popo: 50:50

vs :olimar: 60:40

vs :pikachu2: 60:40

vs :dedede: 45:55

vs :gw: 60:40

vs :lucario: 55:45

vs :zerosuitsamus: 60:40

vs :toonlink: 60:40

vs :kirby2: 60:40

vs :fox: 60:40

vs :rob: 55:45

vs :pit: 60:40

vs :peach: 55:45

vs :dk2: 55:45

vs :luigi2: 60:40

vs :wolf: 50:50

vs :sonic: 60:40

vs :ike: 60:40

vs :sheik: 60:40

vs :ness2: 65:35

vs :pt: 65:35

vs :yoshi2: 60:40

vs :lucas: 65:35

vs :mario2: 65:35

vs :bowser2: 60:40

vs :falcon: 65:35

vs :samus2: 65:35

vs :jigglypuff: 65:35

vs :link2: 65:45

vs :zelda: 60:40

vs :ganondorf: 70:30
 

xxmoosexx

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It's because it's more accurate at high end play.

By playing the best Pikachu and Ike I've come to realize that
Are you trying to imply something?....Are you telling me that i SUCK!?!?

HOW COU- I could care less. You are much better than me as well as every other math on here.

So at high end play marth goes just about even with middle-high tier and up.

Good to know.
 

Nike.

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I kinda like this format (with the player and their list in a hidden caption.) I think it would make the Video Thread look less cluttered as well.
 

Leon94

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My opinion is

Leon

vs :metaknight: 40:60

vs :snake: 55:45

vs :diddy: 55:45

vs :falco: 60:40

vs :wario: 55:45

vs :marth: 50:50

vs :popo: 50:50

vs :olimar: 60:40

vs :pikachu2: 60:40

vs :dedede: 40:60

vs :gw: 65:35

vs :lucario: 55:45

vs :zerosuitsamus: 55:45

vs :toonlink: 60:40

vs :kirby2: 60:40

vs :fox: 65:35

vs :rob: 50:50

vs :pit: 60:40

vs :peach: 60:40

vs :dk2: 55:45

vs :luigi2: 60:40

vs :wolf: 50:50

vs :sonic: 60:40

vs :ike: 70:30

vs :sheik: 60:40

vs :ness2: 65:35

vs :pt: 65:35

vs :yoshi2: 70:30

vs :lucas: 65:35

vs :mario2: 60:40

vs :bowser2: 65:35

vs :falcon: 65:35

vs :samus2: 65:35

vs :jigglypuff: 70:30

vs :link2: 70:30

vs :zelda: 60:40

vs :ganondorf: 70:30
 

Anaky

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After i get about 3 more opinions from people il make an average ratio for each matchup.
 

Freezewish

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vs :metaknight: 40:60

vs :snake: 55:45

vs :diddy: 45:55

vs :falco: 55:45

vs :wario: 60:40

vs :marth: 50:50

vs :popo: 50:50

vs :olimar: 60:40

vs :pikachu2: 60:40

vs :dedede: 40:60

vs :gw: 60:40

vs :lucario: 55:45

vs :zerosuitsamus: 60:40

vs :toonlink: 60:40

vs :kirby2: 60:40

vs :fox: 60:40

vs :rob: 50:50

vs :pit: 60:40

vs :peach: 55:45

vs :dk2: 45:55

vs :luigi2: 60:40

vs :wolf: 50:50

vs :sonic: 60:40

vs :ike: 60:40

vs :sheik: 60:40

vs :ness2: 65:35

vs :pt: 65:35

vs :yoshi2: 60:40

vs :lucas: 65:35

vs :mario2: 60:40

vs :bowser2: 60:40

vs :falcon: 65:35

vs :samus2: 65:35

vs :jigglypuff: 65:35

vs :link2: 65:45

vs :zelda: 60:40

vs :ganondorf: 70:30
 

Mr-R

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Oh lol I just noticed I typed 50:50 at the IC matchup, thats not right
change it to 55:45 plz andy, thanks
 

Shaya

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Personally I've been out of the loop competitively for a while.
Especially in a -lot- of match ups.

I can be broad, or specific in some cases.
But I'll post a proper list at some point soon.
 

Kyoshi123

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Anaky Says:

Just read this and do exactly the same, thats what i was going to do.
 
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