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[KMDP]

'Aite. Question time.

For those whose most wanted character (or one of your most wanted characters depending on how realistic your requests are) is in the game as a spirit, do you use their spirit often? Do you like its effects? And are you happy with its ranking (like I'm sure Geno was given a 4 star legend status as a kind of acknowledgement of his popularity)?

Personally I'm happy with the Skull Kid/Majora's Mask spirit. Getting the legend status is nice and the secondary effect (lifesteal) is really useful. I ended up using him for a lot of World of Light and now have him equipped on many Spirits battles unless they're difficult enough to require a specific setup.

How's about you?

I use the Isaac spirit decently often, I actually used him for the Final Boss, though I'm not sure if his ability actually helped at all (it depends on what the game considers "Energy Shots").

 

[Dyllybirdy]

'Aite. Question time.

For those whose most wanted character (or one of your most wanted characters depending on how realistic your requests are) is in the game as a spirit, do you use their spirit often? Do you like its effects? And are you happy with its ranking (like I'm sure Geno was given a 4 star legend status as a kind of acknowledgement of his popularity)?

Personally I'm happy with the Skull Kid/Majora's Mask spirit. Getting the legend status is nice and the secondary effect (lifesteal) is really useful. I ended up using him for a lot of World of Light and now have him equipped on many Spirits battles unless they're difficult enough to require a specific setup.

How's about you?

Yeah, I use the Shantae spirit regularly enough. And, yeah, I'd say the Ace ranking does make the most sense for her.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Ahhhhh Shantae is so good
Dang this game is great.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So, assuming Smash is now 20, what was everyone's first experience with series?

I remember Melee being played at my cousins' house, but I was pretty young then, so I don't think I played it that much

Then, fast forward to some time in either 2008 or 2009, we're at our cousins' house once again. This time, they had Brawl... Being older, and already getting hooked on gaming thanks to the Wii craze at the time (who I'll also thank my cousins for introducing me to), I picked up a controller, and picked ... It was a blast. So much so, that it was basically tradition that whenever we went to their house, one of the first things we did was play a couple rounds of Brawl. My family loved it so much, that we ended up buying our own copy of it, and it was likely our most played Wii game...

So, if it weren't for Brawl, I probably wouldn't be on these boards, or part of other multiple Nintendo fandoms... So I'm gonna take a second to thank Brawl for introducing me to Smash, and a ton of other amazing Nintendo franchises.

 

[Pakky]

Ahhhhh Shantae is so good
Dang this game is great.

And the booty is fat...
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

And the booty is fat...
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

What
Just pretended the Yoshi disgusted face is here image servers are down

 

[Deleted member]

Smash Brothers.

Here's the channel if you are curious.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT4swSE0mSO6Q6QcXHwdsZA?view_as=subscriber

I think a video on possible non-fighter pass DLC could be a good idea

'Aite. Question time.

For those whose most wanted character (or one of your most wanted characters depending on how realistic your requests are) is in the game as a spirit, do you use their spirit often? Do you like its effects? And are you happy with its ranking (like I'm sure Geno was given a 4 star legend status as a kind of acknowledgement of his popularity)?

Personally I'm happy with the Skull Kid/Majora's Mask spirit. Getting the legend status is nice and the secondary effect (lifesteal) is really useful. I ended up using him for a lot of World of Light and now have him equipped on many Spirits battles unless they're difficult enough to require a specific setup.

How's about you?

Shovel Knight, Specter Knight, Lyon, Wonder-Red and Zoroark are all low-rank Primary Spirits with few slots so it sucks but I still use them.
Nino has a terrible support effect and Hector's is trivialized by the skill tree.

At least Alucard, Chun-Li and Hydreigon are good

I don't think One Piece has gone on this long because of editiorial mandate (although that isn't to say that the publishers don't love how long it's gone on); Toriyama's editor couldn't stop him from ending Dr. Slump or Dragon Ball, and don't think Oda's editor could do the same if he decided he had had enough.

The fanbase has repeatedly made jokes about Oda's complete inability to predict how long the series will go on for, he thought the series would only go on for 5 years, and now look where we are. At one point the Skypeia arc (which started in Chapter 237) was considered (by Oda himself) to be the "halfway point".

Unlike Naruto, One Piece's core design lends itself very well to a long-running series. Naruto has a very small "world", the only things that matter are the things that directly effect Konohagakure, when those things aren't the focus, they might as well not exist, By the end of the series, you could pretty much count the number of countries Naruto (the character) had been to that weren't Konoha on one hand, and even then, we were fully aware of all of the world's biggest players by that point, meaning there wasn't really anywhere for the series to go.

In One Piece, each island the crew goes to is unique, with a culture and flavour to them that Oda takes time to establish (some moreso than others). The world of One Piece is huge compared to Naruto, and things happen even when they don't effect the main cast; not only that, the secondary cast is constantly shifting, and there are characters who come back who, in other series, would be discarded never to return (I won't say who for the people like Zinith who are actively reading it), this even applies to characters outside of the series (the main character of one of Oda's old single chapter pilot manga actually appeared in One Piece).

Speaking of the pilot manga chapters, @Zinith, I recommend looking into Wanted! at some point.

I understand WHY it works so well as a long-running series, the nature of a mysterious treasure means you can push it for as long as needed as its actual place and requirements aren't known.
But I reaply doubt Oda isn't being forced to pad it for this long, authors may not admit but no writer would make something this long if there wasn't corporate intent behind it.


Honestly, more manga should follow the Jojo format. Make a confined story and then go to a new cast of characters. It allows readers to get payoffs to big arcs while making sure the series can go for as long as it's needed without it getting stale, in the sense of character casts, tones and genres.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Ahhhhh Shantae is so good
Dang this game is great.

Yeah! Have you come across Rotty yet?

 

[Deleted member]

KH III releases this Friday. If a Direct announcement is made on Wednesday, I'm placing money on Sora being announced as character 2.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Yeah! Have you come across Rotty yet?

I was actually reffering to the game tho
And yeah I have. Interesting character concept. She does feel a bit out of place though.

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Sakurai talks about Campy players in Ultimate.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

He seems to dislike them and want to punish it by slowing them down in general if they are campy.

 

[Deleted member]

I love stupid Nintendo memes

Spoiler: XD

Dammit broken images

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I was actually reffering to the game tho

So was I?

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

KH III releases this Friday. If a Direct announcement is made on Wednesday, I'm placing money on Sora being announced as character 2.

I just want another SE rep so we can get more SE stuff in the game. I'm still mad that we didn't get any new FF songs in this game.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I just want another SE rep so we can get more SE stuff in the game. I'm still mad that we didn't get any new FF songs in this game.

*Insert Square is stingy post here*

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

So was I?

No I mean you were reffering to the character when I said "Shantae is good" but I was actually reffering to the game.
This is confusing

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Could you just let me dream in peace

no. Dreams aren’t allowed here

Sakurai talks about Campy players in Ultimate.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

He seems to dislike them and want to punish it by slowing them down in general if they are campy.

Sakurai should just end them himself

 

[Deleted member]

Y'know what, everyone keeps goin' on about Bandana Dee as a new Kirby rep, but you know who we're missing?

Whispy Woods. Whispy Woods for Smash:

Spoiler

EDIT: Images work very well on this site. It's a very consistent function of the forums that never breaks.

 

[Deleted member]

Reposting the memes as links cuz the images are down
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[Ramen Tengoku]

Y'know what, everyone keeps goin' on about Bandana Dee as a new Kirby rep, but you know who we're missing?

Whispy Woods. Whispy Woods for Smash:

Spoiler

I'm having flashbacks of the human legs Kirby trend...
*Shiver*

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Y'know what, everyone keeps goin' on about Bandana Dee as a new Kirby rep, but you know who we're missing?

Whispy Woods. Whispy Woods for Smash:

Spoiler

WHISPY WOODS BLOWS THE COMPETITION! ok that sounded too wrong, sorry

 

[Pakky]

Shantae vs 2B = Too many cheeks.

 

[Deleted member]

Shantae vs 2B = Too many cheeks.

Nah man, if you want cheeks, you gotta go with Zoe.

 

[Pakky]

Nah man, if you want cheeks, you gotta go with Zoe.

Silly goose puppies don't have people butts

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Guys, let's change subject before this thread gets locked too.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Shantae vs 2B = Too many cheeks.

Still hoping for the both of them to be in Smash...

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Guys, let's change subject before this thread gets locked too.

Yes please

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Guh-Huzzah! How's your game going, did you make some progress?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Sakurai talks about Campy players in Ultimate.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

He seems to dislike them and want to punish it by slowing them down in general if they are campy.

I wish he should implement that. Campy players ruin the pace of the game. They can get boring imo.

As the link says, how do you exactly get an AI to know what camping in? Because when you have zoners who can play keepaway such as DHD and Belmont, you could end up making a system that actively punishes a character for playing how they're supposed to. And what about Sonic's old hit and run style? Where they hit you and then run away. Sonic could easily abuse an anti-camp system by going in before the AI detects he's camping

 

[KMDP]

Sakurai talks about Campy players in Ultimate.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

He seems to dislike them and want to punish it by slowing them down in general if they are campy.

It would have been really funny if they had those anti-camping mechanics introduced in the game when they brought in the most campy characters (the Belmonts).

I understand WHY it works so well as a long-running series, the nature of a mysterious treasure means you can push it for as long as needed as its actual place and requirements aren't known.
But I reaply doubt Oda isn't being forced to pad it for this long, authors may not admit but no writer would make something this long if there wasn't corporate intent behind it.

Honestly, more manga should follow the Jojo format. Make a confined story and then go to a new cast of characters. It allows readers to get payoffs to big arcs while making sure the series can go for as long as it's needed without it getting stale, in the sense of character casts, tones and genres.

All I'll say is, if you think you'll enjoy it, disregard the length of the story and just go for it; don't worry about trying to catch up and read it at your own pace.

As someone who has read the story (more than once), I've only very rarely felt the hand of the editor, and the biggest one that comes to mind is a situation that reduced the length of an arc, not lengthened it (Oda introduced a collection of new enemies in the middle of an arc, only to have them all accidentally taken out by one of their allies shortly afterward).

Spoiler

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Guh-Huzzah! How's your game going, did you make some progress?

Not really no. Gonna hold off on that. Its more so an idea...

Masked Marshmallow Voice acting is more so my area of expertise, so I will probably just stick with that. I already voice in a few though, so that's nice.

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, in all seriousness:
should be the guest character in Jump Force.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Is it just me or does it look like Shantae's skin is constantly changes shades between gameplay and official artwork?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Shantae vs 2B = Too many cheeks.

You mean something Snake lost the moment he returned to Smash, and Falcon lost his as well, while Samus only got hers nerfed in favor of legs...but Bayonetta got to keep her booty

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai talks about Campy players in Ultimate.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

He seems to dislike them and want to punish it by slowing them down in general if they are campy.

I wish he should implement that. Campy players ruin the pace of the game. They can get boring imo.

It would completely ruin the playstyle of zoners like Villager and Isabelle and instantly kill any of their potential viability if you did that.

It wouldn't be a good move.

 

[Saetanigera]

5 methods of characterization: speech, thoughts, effect on others, actions, and looks

Steve: none, none, none, anything, and crude

There are many characters I don't like that I can see make it in smash, but Steve is in another category entirely. He falls short of my (and it seems, many people's) criteria to be considered a character at all. We struggle to see a Dragon Quest protagonist rise above the level of generic avatar, but even then they all have a thematic look, move-set, and effect on those around them. Some people see the blank slate as creative freedom, but the truth is restrictions are the things that require creative solutions (see: Captain Toad).

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

5 methods of characterization: speech, thoughts, effect on others, actions, and looks

Steve: none, none, none, anything, and crude

There are many characters I don't like that I can see make it in smash, but Steve is in another category entirely. He falls short of my (and it seems, many people's) criteria to be considered a character at all. We struggle to see a Dragon Quest protagonist rise above the level of generic avatar, but even then they all have a thematic look, move-set, and effect on those around them. Some people see the blank slate as creative freedom, but the truth is restrictions are the things that require creative solutions (see: Captain Toad).

I mean, there are characters like Mr. Game and Watch, and imo he's one of the funnest characters to play.

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

I mean, there are characters like Mr. Game and Watch, and imo he's one of the funnest characters to play.

Yeah, just look at my mains.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I am on the Ammo Baron battle and...
Wow this is tough.

 

[Deleted member]

5 methods of characterization: speech, thoughts, effect on others, actions, and looks

Steve: none, none, none, anything, and crude

There are many characters I don't like that I can see make it in smash, but Steve is in another category entirely. He falls short of my (and it seems, many people's) criteria to be considered a character at all. We struggle to see a Dragon Quest protagonist rise above the level of generic avatar, but even then they all have a thematic look, move-set, and effect on those around them. Some people see the blank slate as creative freedom, but the truth is restrictions are the things that require creative solutions (see: Captain Toad).

Literally every argument I've seen used against Steve can be used against these characters as well, and yet, here we are.