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What are you most excited about for E3?


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Whole banjo vs steve jokes aside, i think steve is quite an underestimated pick due to bias towards banjo.

Just being the most successful indie game and 2nd best selling game of all time, have a lot of related merchandise and being part of modern pop culture would put him far above most potential 3rd party picks.
Oh yeah, Steve has a ton of marketing potential. It helps that MInecraft is a gaming icon.

I just think there's more circumstantial evidence that points me in the direction of Banjo. Recent Banjo marketing and ambiguous leaker claims keep my flames alive. Like with Polar saying a fairly decent leaker from Smash 4 days has said Banjo is in. (She doesn't reveal the leaker in question)

Teeb, you're giving into your dark urges.
How can I control this darkness?!?!
Why control it, let it loose.
When parent's have a completely different way of raising a child.

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When parent's have a completely different way of raising a child.

E: Oops. Double post.
So now i find out your my parents too? great..

So. Here's a confident parting gift for you, motivated by both darkness and love:

 

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felt like writing this up so i did
even gave it proper punctuation and everything so
Let’s track this from the beginning.


-----2014: Guardians of the Galaxy-----

The Nebula we see in GotG is far from the Nebula we know and love today, being a far less sympathetic evil *******. She kills and kills without remorse, even trying to murder Gamora on multiple occasions throughout the film. Since this movie was about building up the Guardians themselves, it makes sense as to why they spent less time on Nebula and just sorta shoved her into a minor antagonist role. Her relationship with Thanos isn’t explored further past “he likes Gamora more” and her relationship with Gamora isn’t explored past “rivalry because Thanos likes her better”. However, we still get the first couple glimpses into the deeper part of her character: the moment she finds out that Ronan is plotting to kill Thanos after decimating Xandar, she immediately goes along with his plan. Not because she doesn’t care about the people of Xandar (she doesn’t but that’s besides the point) but because she finally sees a way to break away from her abusive father and maybe kill him in the process. With how damn powerful and influential Thanos is, there’s no way Nebula could kill him on her own. She’ll side with anyone to get away from him, even someone as disgusting as Ronan. This is our first real hint into how troubled Nebula is because of this toxic relationship with this grape looking ************.


-----2017: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2-----

This is where **** starts to get real. Nebula has a lot more screen time in GotG Vol. 2, so she gets a lot more development into her character. Or, more accurately, her character in relation to Gamora.


We first see her when she’s brought to the Guardians by the Sovereign as a prisoner after attempting to steal some of their Harpulary Anulax batteries. Gamora says that she’s “worth nothing more than the bounty due to her on Xandar” and, uh, accepts their “gift”. This isn’t true though, as we can see couple minutes later; Gamora refuses to give Nebula a Yaro Root because it wasn’t ripe. While this is obviously a comedic scene, the fact that Gamora cares about Nebula enough to even take something like that into consideration is extremely telling of her deeper feelings for her. While they may hate each other, and they’re only sisters because of an abusive genocidal megalomaniac bringing them together, they’re sisters nonetheless.


After most of the Guardians head to Ego’s planet, Nebula, Rocket, and Groot have a brief excursion on the Ravager ship. Nebula does something pretty damn interesting here: she saves Rocket and Yondu’s lives. While she probably does simply want her cut of the bounty, she also probably cares for them on some level: the Guardians are important to her, considering how important they are to Gamora. Anyways, the talk she has with Kraglin is pretty damn important; as it’s the first time she truly vents about her issues with Thanos and Gamora. She was never able to defeat Gamora in training battles, and every time she would lose Thanos would replace a part of her with mechanical parts, hence why she’s basically a cyborg. This is why she harbors such resentment towards Gamora. Not because Thanos liked her better, Nebula doesn’t give two ****s about that. It’s because she directly suffers from Thanos liking her better, and from Gamora being better. Of course, this is unfounded hatred. Gamora was just doing what she had to do to survive, and on some level Nebula knows that. But pain’s a complicated thing.


After the final battle with Ego (where Nebula does the most badass **** in any of the Guardians movies when she powers a goddamn spaceship using her own body) she has an incredibly heartwarming talk with Gamora. Don’t really need to explain or analyze this, it speaks for itself.

  • Gamora: Nebula… I was a child like you. I was concerned with staying alive until the next day, every day. And I never considered what Thanos was doing to you. I’m trying to make it right. There are little girls like you… across the universe who are in danger. You can stay with us and help them.
  • Nebula: I will help them by killing Thanos.
  • Gamora I don’t know if that’s possible. (hugs Nebula) You will always be my sister.

-----2018: Infinity War-----

Not much happens here in terms of Nebula action. She gets tortured and Gamora gets incredibly upset at the sight, and Nebula gets upset when she finds out that Gamora’s dead, both of which further emphasize their strengthening relationship. Besides that? Not much.

-----2018-2023: Endgame-----

I've already went over how good the paper football moment with her and Tony is, so I'll just quote that post.


She has a heartwarming moment with Rocket after the Benetar touches down, where she sits and holds hands with him. This shared moment between them is a sign of just how much Nebula has come to care about the Guardians over the years and also it’s not romantic don't believe @Shishœ's lies Nebula Is Not A Furry


She becomes a member of the Avengers for the next five years, and the fact that she finally has the closest thing to a family after so long is pretty sweet. The friendship she forms with Rhodey over “not being whole” is incredibly heartwarming. But the main event here is the T I M E H E I S T


Let’s track this from the beginning.


-----2014: Guardians of the Galaxy-----


This version of 2014 Nebula (who I will henceforth refer to as 2014!Nebula) is actually quite different from the 2014 Nebula we know and love to hate. This is for two specific reasons, both tying into Thanos’ abuse and manipulation:

  • Our Thanos says “Perhaps I treated you too harshly” before he gets debrained by Thor
  • 2014!Thanos doesn’t kill her for our Nebula’s betrayal even though Maw is all in on doing so, and instead sends her on an incredibly important mission to him.

Now we all know at this point that despite doing nothing wrong, Thanos does not care about Nebula in the slightest. He’s simply doing this as a tactical move, not because he likes her in any way. He's straight up manipulating her into thinking she's more important to her then he actually is. This explains why she doesn't side with our Nebula and the Avengers at all throughout the third act.


-----Back to the future, 2023: Endgame-----


The confrontation between 2014!Nebula, 2014!Gamora, and our Nebula (and Jeremy Renner I guess) was very meaningful to Nebula's arc as a whole. Here's 2014!Nebula, who's mistreated, abused, traumatized, and broken. And here's our Nebula, who grew out of that awful situation, who gained a healthier mindset, who made friends and connected with a family. This was Nebula facing her demons. And if there was just more time, if the situation was different, if there wasn't any risk of total universal genocide, perhaps the outcome could've been different. But Nebula killing 2014!Nebula was poetic in a way. She finally put a rest to her self doubt, to her baggage. To her demons. And with the death of Thanos, her arc is finally complete. Really excited to see where she goes in GotG Vol. 4.
thats something that bothers me. If 2014 Nebula, Thanos, and thanos’s army Are all dead. Than how did phase 2-3 still... happen
 
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So now i find out your my parents too? great..

So. Here's a confident parting gift for you, motivated by both darkness and love:

Yeah I already saw that. It's pretty hype. At bare minimum, I think we're seeing Banjo again this E3.
 

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So now i find out your my parents too? great..

So. Here's a confident parting gift for you, motivated by both darkness and love:

Right, and them making a Meta Ridley statue means Ridley will get in Smash.




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At the very least I will say that I could potentially see a timeline in which a new Banjo is released for Xbox One, and then also revealed to come to Switch like Cuphead did, which could hypothetically lead to Banjo in Smash.

However, the likelihood of that shouldn’t be considered vast and expected. The hype meters should really only fill up if Banjo comes to Switch. But every year, fans think Banjo is coming back only to be disappointed despite “evidence” every time.
 
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Teeb147

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Looks like I’ll have to be the responsible one and put Teeb147 Teeb147 down and prevent this darkness from spreading further. I’m sorry Teeb, I hope you and Dylly can forgive me...
well i better moosey on before you remember about any of this.

Look a ball!

 

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For real though it's cool how fake leaks can cause bandwagons like this
for me it's that it finally puts a face to a dark souls rep i've wanted since the smash 4 ballot days but could never quite figure out how best it should be done.

characters like the player avatar or solaire are the ones that usually come up but they never seemed that appealing to me. the suggestion that artorias could take up the mantle of rep instead of them makes me a lot more enthusiastic for the idea.
 

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It's Sonic, people need to exaggerate how baaaaaad the franchise is
Sonic has never had a good game ever.

Those games you thought were good? Yeah, they're actually bad.

Here's my totally objective review on a game that came out 15+ years ago that I will judge by modern standards.
 

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team sonic racing is cool and all, but I really wish they had just made another sega all stars racing game
 
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Oh yeah, Steve has a ton of marketing potential. It helps that MInecraft is a gaming icon.

I just think there's more circumstantial evidence that points me in the direction of Banjo. Recent Banjo marketing and ambiguous leaker claims keep my flames alive. Like with Polar saying a fairly decent leaker from Smash 4 days has said Banjo is in. (She doesn't reveal the leaker in question)
Could be regarding leaks, but marketing-wise banjo was always marketed alongside conker. Plus other heavily marketed series are pretty much not especulated as much due to bias towards banjo :b
At the very least I will that I could potentially see a timeline in which a new Banjo is released for Xbox One, and then also revealed to come to Switch like Cuphead did, which could hypothetically lead to Banjo in Smash.

However, the likelihood of that shouldn’t be considered vast and expected. The hype meters should really only fill up if Banjo comes to Switch. But every year, fans think Banjo is coming back only to be disappointed despite “evidence” every time.
I kinda have moved past the franchise, still its kinda discouraging when Rare isn't interested on it or plain recommends playing A Hat in Time.
 
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Could be regarding leaks, but marketing-wise banjo was always marketed alongside conker. Plus other heavily marketed series are pretty much not especulated as much due to bias towards banjo :b

I kinda have moved past the franchise, still its kinda discouraging when Rare isn't interested on it or plain recommends playing A Hat in Time.
DID SOMEBODY SAY A HAT IN TIME?
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i can't believe we missed out on sega all-stars 3 with joker in the morgana van
Did I hear "a Daytona USA game with the Morgana Van as a driveable vehicle"?

Cause I'm hearing "a Daytona USA game with the Morgana Van as a driveable vehicle".
 
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