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[Ramen Tengoku]

Ok. I know people hate her, but I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Princess Elise come back to the Sonic series. Especially if she looks like this
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I mean... I wouldn't mind either

Just as long as they don't make her a love interest this time

I wouldn't mind at least a couple more human characters in the Sonic cast, in general, given the fact that Eggman is really the only notable one.

 

[Deleted member]

Would anyone be up for a Smash Ultimate arena?
I just want E3 to come too.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's funny Elise is being brought up as I saw a Kamen Rider episode have a universally hated character from the worst written season be given an arc that made people really like what they did with him

 

[Graizen]

The thing that gets me about this leak though is:

Who was the person to find it first?


Because that person has to be the one who did it, otherwise whoever did this expected people to just naturally 'find' the leak.



This isn't Grinch Hoax which just got dumped online in a big "LOOKIT ME!" kinda thing, whoever made these ads had to get the word out somehow.

The person is : https://twitter.com/TheStarbDude

He said people from the PapaGenos Discord found about this leak.

 

[TheMightyP]

May you please explain way?

He sued BioWare and Sega because some of the new characters used in Sonic Chronicles apparently plagarised HIS characters in his Sonic Comics. As such, SEGA went through a bunch of legal hurdles due to this game, and I don't think they want to do it again.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Why have I been so hungry lately?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Let me put it this way. There are an incredible amount of issues in the world today. Climate change. Economic growth. Gender inequality, racial inequality, poverty, hunger, the criminal justice system. Technology with several subsets of issues, like hacking, hate speech/hateful ideologies, fake news. Higher education/student loans. Gun violence. There are even more than that which I don’t feel like listing.

There isn’t any one solution that will fix all of it. There are too many moving parts that require different people to do different things.

As a teacher, i’ve come across many different people from many different backgrounds. As a straight white guy, i’ve learned a lot about the oppressed history of people of color, women, and members of the LGBTQ community. At 26 years old i’ve determined what I believe in, or what the best path forward is.

While I am aware of the differences everyone has from one another, I think we fixate too much on it. Identity politics does more to split us apart than bring us together, as it only allies ourselves with people who look or sound the same, or have similar experience, as if there’s nothing we have in common with people who look or sound differently.

What’s interesting is that T’Challa, in one of the post credit scenes of Black Panther even says this. We have gotten so hateful toward each other people of something, that we now are so incredibly judgmental. It’s a toxic phenomenon, really, and it fools people into thinking that it’s Z group vs Y group. In reality, there are probably plenty of things that we all have in common.

Do you know how many students of color I teach that are homophobic? Engage actively in colorist toward each other? Discriminate against Muslims? Treat women as less than men? By identity politic standards, that doesn’t exist. But it does. There are students who I teach that are poor, black, and have basically told me that they plan on getting through life by selling drugs, and have shown that they are extremely lazy. It’s not an exclusively black thing, no. But to act like it’s not a reality is a mistake as well. I do not think they’re lesser people necessarily, and I wonder what has happened in their lives to have their outlook, but it’s not as if it doesn’t exist.

No matter what, we all have to love each other, unless we want to be miserable for the rest of our existence. You can’t learn to love each other or accept each other despite our differences without at least trying to love and accept each other.

Like, when I was in Atlanta, there was a Trump protest of decent size. There was a diverse crowd there. My gf and I stopped to listen for a bit. There was, however, in particular one burly white man with an anti-Trump sign. He had a camouflage hat on, and/or could have given the average person the idea that he was a “red neck “ and therefore a Trump voter. But he wasn’t. He was anti-Trump.

We have to put our differences aside, and learn to fight hatred. The people who want to wallow in hatred? Well...they need to get with it, or stay behind.

As Dr. Winston said in that Overwatch short...”Never accept the world for what it appears to be. Dare to see it for what it could be!”

People can be extremely annoying, we have no doubts about that. But imagine what the world could be, if we can together, out of our tribalism, worked to change the world for the better, together.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok. I know people hate her, but I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Princess Elise come back to the Sonic series. Especially if she looks like this
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Alright made a motherhood tier list for Mother’s Day
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Rosalina literally uses her own children as meat shields but go off I guess

 

[staindgrey]

Hinata

I just got through the idol 2-parter.

I think I've decided I like this show.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Climate change. Economic growth. Gender inequality, racial inequality, poverty, hunger, the criminal justice system. Technology with several sunsets of issues, like hacking, hate speech/hateful ideologies, fake news. Higher education/student loans. Gun violence.

A list of everything I am concerned about.

Nice.

 

[Deleted member]

Wrote for the Sonic Archie Comics originally, was pretty creepy, left and sued Archie over some bull**** forcing the modern comic to do a semi-reboot, now write his won comic with his own ocs, still very creepy.

Isn't he also the reason why Sega doesn't allow more variations of Sonic colors in Smash? Due to lawsuits and such?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I mean... I wouldn't mind either

Just as long as they don't make her a love interest this time

I wouldn't mind at least a couple more human characters in the Sonic cast, in general, given the fact that Eggman is really the only notable one.

Fair. I don’t really care about the love interest thing. It was kind of creepy, but it never bothered me. Sonic is an intelligent species. Him and Elise dating is no weirder than a human dating a Klingon to me.

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Oh come on.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

DOES ANYBODY WANT CAWFEE?

 

[Gentlepanda]

DOES ANYBODY WANT CAWFEE?

>coffee

how repulsive

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

DOES ANYBODY WANT CAWFEE?

What an obnoxious man...

 

[osby]

Fair. I don’t really care about the love interest thing. It was kind of creepy, but it never bothered me. Sonic is an intelligent species. Him and Elise dating is no weirder than a human dating a Klingon to me.

True but it wasn't written well. Them being friends was a lot more sweet and believable.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

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Rosalina literally uses her own children as meat shields but go off I guess

Haha well I debated putting Rosalina in the same tier as Yoshi, but Yoshi was such an anomaly that I was not sure what to do. plus I was looking more at their own series rather than their actions in Smash bros.

 

[Teeb147]

Let me put it this way. There are an incredible amount of issues in the world today. Climate change. Economic growth. Gender inequality, racial inequality, poverty, hunger, the criminal justice system. Technology with several subsets of issues, like hacking, hate speech/hateful ideologies, fake news. Higher education/student loans. Gun violence. There are even more than that which I don’t feel like listing.

There isn’t any one solution that will fix all of it. There are too many moving parts that require different people to do different things.

As a teacher, i’ve come across many different people from many different backgrounds. As a straight white guy, i’ve learned a lot about the oppressed history of people of color, women, and members of the LGBTQ community. At 26 years old i’ve determined what I believe in, or what the best path forward is.

While I am aware of the differences everyone has from one another, I think we fixate too much on it. Identity politics does more to split us apart than bring us together, as it only allies ourselves with people who look or sound the same, or have similar experience, as if there’s nothing we have in common with people who look or sound differently.

What’s interesting is that T’Challa, in one of the post credit scenes of Black Panther even says this. We have gotten so hateful toward each other people of something, that we now are so incredibly judgmental. It’s a toxic phenomenon, really, and it fools people into thinking that it’s Z group vs Y group. In reality, there are probably plenty of things that we all have in common.

Do you know how many students of color I teach that are homophobic? Engage actively in colorist toward each other? Discriminate against Muslims? Treat women as less than men? By identity politic standards, that doesn’t exist. But it does. There are students who I teach that are poor, black, and have basically told me that they plan on getting through life by selling drugs, and have shown that they are extremely lazy. It’s not an exclusively black thing, no. But to act like it’s not a reality is a mistake as well. I do not think they’re lesser people necessarily, and I wonder what has happened in their lives to have their outlook, but it’s not as if it doesn’t exist.

No matter what, we all have to love each other, unless we want to be miserable for the rest of our existence. You can’t learn to love each other or accept each other despite our differences without at least trying to love and accept each other.

Like, when I was in Atlanta, there was a Trump protest of decent size. There was a diverse crowd there. My gf and I stopped to listen for a bit. There was, however, in particular one burly white man with an anti-Trump sign. He had a camouflage hat on, and/or could have given the average person the idea that he was a “red neck “ and therefore a Trump voter. But he wasn’t. He was anti-Trump.

We have to put our differences aside, and learn to fight hatred. The people who want to wallow in hatred? Well...they need to get with it, or stay behind.

As Dr. Winston said in that Overwatch short...”Never accept the world for what it appears to be. Dare to see it for what it could be!”

People can be extremely annoying, we have no doubts about that. But imagine what the world could be, if we can together, out of our tribalism, worked to change the world for the better, together.

I would say so. And it's by continuing to talk about ideas like that that with time different mentality can come about. Not always dividing in society.

You don't 'fight' hatred though. (unless there's no other choice in some cases) You realize what it is, and reconnect with the heart, with humans and life in general.
We all have hearts, we all know what it is to be in pain or miserable, be judged or worse, just like we all like and want to be happy, and it's by recognizing that others feel the same and that we all deserve a better place to live in that we can make use of that to move forward towards better, especially instead of judging and fighting what we think is bad.

There's lots of different values in the world and it's by accepting them that we can work together instead of believing one side has all the answers and everyone else needs to conform (which is oppression).

Anyway

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Those latest Star vs. the Forces of Evil episodes.

Holy ****

That is all. At least for now. I'm eager to talk about this with how crazy it's gotten, but at the same time I'm almost speechless.

One more week to go. One half hour-long episode to go. Then it all ends...

 

[Wademan94]

Fair. I don’t really care about the love interest thing. It was kind of creepy, but it never bothered me. Sonic is an intelligent species. Him and Elise dating is no weirder than a human dating a Klingon to me.

Yeah I think there are more issues with the relationship outside of the whole “lol beastiality” point. It’s pointless and unnecessary, Elise doesn’t really seem like a stable individual due to the writing and the whole thing pretty much kept Sonic out of the overall plot of his OWN GAME. Like the biggest contribution he had was getting stabbed with a laser by Mephiles the Coward.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Ok. I know people hate her, but I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Princess Elise come back to the Sonic series. Especially if she looks like this
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Eh, if she ever came back (good luck with that if your origin game is 06 and your name isn't Silver), I prefer Elise to look like this.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I would say so. And it's by continuing to talk about ideas like that that with time different mentality can come about. Not always dividing in society.

You don't 'fight' hatred though. (unless there's no other choice in some cases) You realize what it is, and reconnect with the heart, with humans and life in general.
We all have hearts, we all know what it is to be in pain or miserable, be judged or worse, just like we all like and want to be happy, and it's by recognizing that others feel the same and that we all deserve a better place to live in that we can make use of that to move forward towards better, especially instead of judging and fighting what we think is bad.

There's lots of different values in the world and it's by accepting them that we can work together instead of believing one side has all the answers and everyone else needs to conform (which is oppression).

Anyway

Good point with the wording.

By fighting hatred, I guess what I really meant was approaching it with love, rather than hate. Hate + hate= more hate, whereas approaching those who only know how to hate with love can open a new avenue.

I just think identity politics and outrage culture aren’t a long term solution. The issues are in front of us. We just have to figure out how to move forward, rather than sinking back into our echo chambers and doing...nothing much.

It’ll all happen eventually, the optimist in me thinks that. But it’s because of people doing the work to get their voices heard, despite naysayers telling them otherwise.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Fair. I don’t really care about the love interest thing. It was kind of creepy, but it never bothered me. Sonic is an intelligent species. Him and Elise dating is no weirder than a human dating a Klingon to me.

I guess...

But there's also the fact their romance and relationship was just poorly written, and I feel like at the very least, it could've been written better...

Like what was the point?

 

[Wademan94]

DOES ANYBODY WANT CAWFEE?

YEAH COFFEE!!!

 

[Hinata]

Hinata

I just got through the idol 2-parter.

I think I've decided I like this show.

Haha, I knew it'd hook you eventually.

 

[TheMightyP]

Let me put it this way. There are an incredible amount of issues in the world today. Climate change. Economic growth. Gender inequality, racial inequality, poverty, hunger, the criminal justice system. Technology with several subsets of issues, like hacking, hate speech/hateful ideologies, fake news. Higher education/student loans. Gun violence. There are even more than that which I don’t feel like listing.

There isn’t any one solution that will fix all of it. There are too many moving parts that require different people to do different things.

As a teacher, i’ve come across many different people from many different backgrounds. As a straight white guy, i’ve learned a lot about the oppressed history of people of color, women, and members of the LGBTQ community. At 26 years old i’ve determined what I believe in, or what the best path forward is.

While I am aware of the differences everyone has from one another, I think we fixate too much on it. Identity politics does more to split us apart than bring us together, as it only allies ourselves with people who look or sound the same, or have similar experience, as if there’s nothing we have in common with people who look or sound differently.

What’s interesting is that T’Challa, in one of the post credit scenes of Black Panther even says this. We have gotten so hateful toward each other people of something, that we now are so incredibly judgmental. It’s a toxic phenomenon, really, and it fools people into thinking that it’s Z group vs Y group. In reality, there are probably plenty of things that we all have in common.

Do you know how many students of color I teach that are homophobic? Engage actively in colorist toward each other? Discriminate against Muslims? Treat women as less than men? By identity politic standards, that doesn’t exist. But it does. There are students who I teach that are poor, black, and have basically told me that they plan on getting through life by selling drugs, and have shown that they are extremely lazy. It’s not an exclusively black thing, no. But to act like it’s not a reality is a mistake as well. I do not think they’re lesser people necessarily, and I wonder what has happened in their lives to have their outlook, but it’s not as if it doesn’t exist.

No matter what, we all have to love each other, unless we want to be miserable for the rest of our existence. You can’t learn to love each other or accept each other despite our differences without at least trying to love and accept each other.

Like, when I was in Atlanta, there was a Trump protest of decent size. There was a diverse crowd there. My gf and I stopped to listen for a bit. There was, however, in particular one burly white man with an anti-Trump sign. He had a camouflage hat on, and/or could have given the average person the idea that he was a “red neck “ and therefore a Trump voter. But he wasn’t. He was anti-Trump.

We have to put our differences aside, and learn to fight hatred. The people who want to wallow in hatred? Well...they need to get with it, or stay behind.

As Dr. Winston said in that Overwatch short...”Never accept the world for what it appears to be. Dare to see it for what it could be!”

People can be extremely annoying, we have no doubts about that. But imagine what the world could be, if we can together, out of our tribalism, worked to change the world for the better, together.

If you had to ask me, I feel as of social media is the biggest issue when it comes down to breaking down barriers. You won't see any forms of complexity on any groups, giving so many of them a one-dimensional feel. For example, Twitter.com would claim that anyone who votes for Trump is a racist person who deserves to die, but for some people I know, they did so because they just... didn't like Hillary and some of her policies. Facebook is the opposite, bashing liberals and the such. Because of it, nobody is willing to listen to one another, causing us all to hate each other without further understanding.


It doesn't help that leaders say or do some really out of pocket things that can make one question the intergrity of an entire group of people.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Like the biggest contribution he had was getting stabbed with a laser by Mephiles the Coward.

His name is Memphis Tennessee and I will make you respect his name...

....but like another day, it's too late for me to do that now.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Anyway, enough of me saying long text boxes about things that really matter. I should talk more about Smash and videogames!

I really shouldn’t be super invested in the DLC picks for Smash considering what i’ve gotten already. But man, if we get Resident Evil and Lloyd Irving? I will have effectively no other desires.

I swear though, some people have told me I should run for office. I don’t think i’m cut out for that.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I've been gone for 12 minutes and we aren't on a new page yet.

Pathetic.

 

[Teeb147]

Good point with the wording.

By fighting hatred, I guess what I really meant was approaching it with love, rather than hate. Hate + hate= more hate, whereas approaching those who only know how to hate with love can open a new avenue.

I just think identity politics and outrage culture aren’t a long term solution. The issues are in front of us. We just have to figure out how to move forward, rather than sinking back into our echo chambers and doing...nothing much.

It’ll all happen eventually, the optimist in me thinks that. But it’s because of people doing the work to get their voices heard, despite naysayers telling them otherwise.

Oh ok

Well I guess we're on the same page then. I will say that identity politics would be fine if it's not seclusion. Some fears are about losing identity, and culture, and specific values. I think that keeping those alive can be important, so long as people also dont shut themselves in and instead try to harmonize that with the broader world.,

As for outrage.. yeah that's never good. At least not acting from it. I dont care how people realize that something's important, so long as they find better ways to act on things and make things better.
I think that even just talking and trying to understand what can help the world is a good first step for anyone. It's not everyone that needs to be activists. at all. And actually a lot of activists are just acting from their outrage.

It's not obvious, of course. But I'm actually optimistic too, at least for over time, and learning what actually works.

 

[TheMightyP]

Imagine that at E3, we got an announcement of another Smash Ballot. No characters, just another ballot.

Get ready for Ballot Tier Lists 2.0!

 

[Gentlepanda]

Get ready for Ballot Tier Lists 2.0!

implying people haven't been doing this for months already despite the fact nintendo don't give a ****

 

[TheMightyP]

implying people haven't been doing this for months already despite the fact nintendo don't give a ****

But this one is "official".

It's all in the wording.

 

[Gentlepanda]

But this one is "official".

It's all in the wording.

The Official fan-made Smash Ultimate Ballot

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I guess...

But there's also the fact their romance and relationship was just poorly written, and I feel like at the very least, it could've been written better...

Like what was the point?

Fair. Sonic games have never really excelled in writing. At least they actually try.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Foreshadowing is a *****.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Wademan94]

His name is Memphis Tennessee and I will make you respect his name...

....but like another day, it's too late for me to do that now.

Am I wrong though?

He distracted them with essentially a flash grenade and stabbed Sonic from behind with a laser. In what part of that statement could not be considered cowardly?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Imagine that at E3, we got an announcement of another Smash Ballot. No characters, just another ballot.

Get ready for Ballot Tier Lists 2.0!

If they do that I will just send 15 Shanoa requests a day even if I know they'll only pick a single vote from me

 

[osby]

Fair. Sonic games have never really excelled in writing.

Sonic and the Black Knight says hi.

 

[Noipoi]

It's mother's day. Love your mommas.

She gets on my nerves sometimes (Okay, a lot of the time) but I don't know where i'd be without mine.

Y'know...besides not existing.