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[Metal Shop X]

Your argument falls apart with your examples. Shadow and Dixie have actual histories and games they're in. They're not like Kasumi who's not even out yet in Japan.

OK, this is going to be my last post on this topic since debating results in me getting really heated when I write big posts, so I hope what I say here shows better my opinion on this

I was more talking about Richter's placement in Smash in that example, and how much he really did "deserve" it over characters like Shadow & Dixie, who also have histoy like you mentioned, much more history than Richter in fact, yet didn't get in as characters despite "deserving" much more than Richter due to being more relevant to the gaming world those days than Castlevania was when the roster was decided on back then. Though, to give credit where it's due, Richter helping Simon moveset & being quite popular in Japan helped his chance by quite a lot. So the "deserve" argument isn't the only one I would use alone to speak about an echo inclusion, especially with a character like Kasumi who, like you said, isn't even in a game yet, much like how Roy (Corrin isn't a good exemple actually, Roy is a better case) wasn't in a game by the time that he got into Smash and was just a clone of Marth with fire added on it, I think it's important to see her inclusion less under one light and more how easy she is to make as a echo of Joker and how much Atlus will push her in the future.

 

[Gentlepanda]

thinking of it, isn't kasumi's outfit just kinda a normal ballerina outfit?

Spoiler: imagessss

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obviously there's some differences but wasn't she doing ballet or something in the trailer

yeah, and she has a dancer sort of thing going on in her regular art

still looks kinda weird, but there's a theme going on

 

[Teeb147]

thinking of it, isn't kasumi's outfit just kinda a normal ballerina outfit?

Spoiler: imagessss

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obviously there's some differences but wasn't she doing ballet or something in the trailer

Yeah!
It's like if you fused a ballerina suit with a biker outfit ;p

 

[Noipoi]

yeah, and she has a dancer sort of thing going on in her regular art

still looks kinda weird, but there's a theme going on

She has official art now yesssssss

 

[Deleted member]

y'all better be ready for a heckton of Zoe in Kasumi's Outfit soon cuz I'm gonna be drawing a lot of that

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

you wanted that?
you're just radiating bad opinions today aren't you

i mean, he is a good looker

 

[Noipoi]

y'all better be ready for a heckton of Zoe in Kasumi's Outfit soon cuz I'm gonna be drawing a lot of that

BRUH

 

[Gentlepanda]

She has official art now yesssssss

here's your two DLC spirits bro

 

[Deleted member]

Saw someone on Twitter say Kasumi's Persona could be Calamity Jane.

Also, her Phantom Thief outfit is really making me think she's gonna be a Joker Echo at some point. Her coat is extremely similar to Joker's, she has the same kind of gloves, she could be similar height wise...

 

[Deleted member]

i mean, he is a good looker
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he looked better as a cat

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BRUH

did you not see that coming

 

[Noipoi]

did you not see that coming

I see the police coming

 

[Teeb147]

Ok here's my last gif. It's of her fighting:

 

[Gentlepanda]

Saw someone on Twitter say Kasumi's Persona could be Calamity Jane.

Also, her Phantom Thief outfit is really making me think she's gonna be a Joker Echo at some point. Her coat is extremely similar to Joker's, she has the same kind of gloves, she could be similar height wise...

i'm quite partial to Nekoo 's Josephine Balsamo theory (both arsene's rival and lover)

it makes sense for her as a female foil/rocky ally to joker, and explains why they look so similar in their thief costumes

 

[Deleted member]

i mean, he is a good looker
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"god i hate morgana's voice it's so annoying"
human morgana: *exists*

 

[MainJPW]

y'all better be ready for a heckton of Zoe in Kasumi's Outfit soon cuz I'm gonna be drawing a lot of that

I wish you hadn’t said that, but:

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Saw someone on Twitter say Kasumi's Persona could be Calamity Jane.

Also, her Phantom Thief outfit is really making me think she's gonna be a Joker Echo at some point. Her coat is extremely similar to Joker's, she has the same kind of gloves, she could be similar height wise...

if they add a little bit more pants on her, then I wouldnt mind

 

[osby]

come to think of it, isn't kasumi's outfit just kinda a normal ballerina outfit?

Spoiler: imagessss

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obviously there's some differences but wasn't she doing ballet or something in the trailer

I think she's a rythmic gymnast, which explains her Metaverse outfit and ribbons.

 

[Gentlepanda]

"god i hate morgana's voice it's so annoying"
human morgana: *exists*

all i'm saying is that that is not a face that edea's voice should be coming out of

 

[Deleted member]

>nintendo's e3 direct reveals royal coming to switch and then announces kasumi

****'s never gonna happen
but it would be sweet

Here's my schtick. Let's take a look at Dragon Quest XI. It's coming to the Switch, but it's been delayed so much to the point where while it was the first game EVER announced for the Switch when it was called the NX, the PS4 and PC got it first. How do we justify the $60 price tag and re-release the game?

Aside from a Kingdom Hearts-ass level name and as said on Ninty's site...

This definitive version of the critically acclaimed game features the same sprawling content of the original, but with newly added character-specific stories, fully orchestrated field and battle music, and the ability to switch between not only between HD and retro-inspired 16-bit visuals, but also Japanese and English voice track.

That **** actually is some justification, and all of this is exclusive to the Switch, this ain't coming to the PS4. So now let's take a look with the idea of Persona 5 coming to Switch; what will S even bring when P5R is essentially what the definitive edition of the game? Can they justify just it being a $60 port when it's now $20?

I'm left with a lot of questions and frankly, a bit iffed. Not too iffed to where I'm upset, but a bit iffed. Like salt on fries when you eat at your local Five Guys.

 

[BlueMonk]

I think it will be pretty strange if Kasumi isn't in smash, considering she had a pretty much finished model and Joker clearly references P5R

 

[Just a penguin]

he looked better as a cat

did you not see that coming

We never saw it coming.

(unlike this joke)

 

[Deleted member]

I see the police coming

well you better hide then

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

also sorry i snapped.

 

[Deleted member]

i mean, he is a good looker
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WOOOOOOO Looking cool Morgana!

 

[Deleted member]

also sorry i snapped.

oh god oh man Professor Pumpkaboo is Thanos

 

[Deleted member]

i'm quite partial to Nekoo 's Josephine Balsamo theory (both arsene's rival and lover)

it makes sense for her as a female foil/rocky ally to joker, and explains why they look so similar in their thief costumes

That would be super interesting and clever. Guess we'll have to wait and see, but this P5R news coupled with Vaanrose's findings make me think she's probably coming to Smash at some point.

if they add a little bit more pants on her, then I wouldnt mind

They'd probably do what they did to Corrin.

 

[Deleted member]

he looked better as a cat

i'm so done

 

[Noipoi]

also sorry i snapped.

It’s fine, dude. Glad you’re ok

 

[Gentlepanda]

if they add a little bit more pants on her, then I wouldnt mind

smash has never failed in the putting pants on questionable designs department

 

[Deleted member]

smash has never failed in the putting pants on questionable designs department

that's an oddly specific department

 

[Deleted member]

come to think of it, isn't kasumi's outfit just kinda a normal ballerina outfit?

Spoiler: imagessss

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obviously there's some differences but wasn't she doing ballet or something in the trailer

Alright. That makes her design automatically better.

 

[Deleted member]

also sorry i snapped.

It's fine mate, we all gotta vent sometimes.

 

[Wademan94]

i mean, he is a good looker
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Can’t wait to hear Cassandra Lee Morris’s voice come out of his mouth.

 

[Teeb147]

I think she's a rythmic gymnast, which explains her Metaverse outfit and ribbons.

Oh yeah the cosplayer played with the ribbons after the trailer too

 

[staindgrey]

I think it will be pretty strange if Kasumi isn't in smash, considering she had a pretty much finished model and Joker clearly references P5R

Where did anyone say it was pretty much finished?

I was under the impression it was nowhere near that.

 

[Alternis]

Well, I'll hope that P5R gets a Switch port, because I got no PS4, and I sure as hell ain't buying one. I loved Persona 5, but only because I could buy a super cheap PS3 and play it that way.

Also Kasumi's thief outfit is kind of weird. I get the idea, but it feels a tad excessive. Why'd Morgana get to be a human now? I was glad he didn't get that originally.

This has been "Rhad comments on ****." I doubt anyone cares.

 

[Deleted member]

Where did anyone say it was pretty much finished?

I was under the impression it was nowhere near that.

Nothing about the model, but the fact that they already created a cache for her ponytail animation means she had to have been pretty far along in development. And remember, the Jane files were in there from day one, it's been several months since.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Where did anyone say it was pretty much finished?

I was under the impression it was nowhere near that.

more that the .mchp hair animation is all fully calculated - her model is 'done' in terms of actually putting it together, but probably nowhere near polished enough graphically for release yet

 

[Aurane]

also sorry i snapped.

*fades away*

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

ok, she is a gymnist. but why the boots