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[Idon]

I will say though, Joker's air gun down is amazing for gimping characters with bad recoveries like Chrom. Nearly 3 stocked one by forcing him to recover low and knocking him back with the bullets.

 

[Will]

Quickplay is a dystopia, while Arenas are a democracy.

This isn't the real Shiny. He hasn't been promoting socialist ideals.

 

[Knight Dude]

I will say that despite all the flaws QP has, I will say at least the enviroment there is better than it was with For Glory. I mean, we can't change nametags when rematching, so that eliminates at least half of the toxicity lol.

But if someone wasn't SO salty that they had to call me a racial slur, how will I know I did a good job?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I will say though, Joker's air gun down is amazing for gimping characters with bad recoveries like Chrom. Nearly 3 stocked one by forcing him to recover low and knocking him back with the bullets.

Im actually to scared to do that move and also because I **** it up everytime

 

[ZephyrZ]

Joker just seems like a super technical character to me. I think he has potential to be good, but he seems like a ton of effort if you want to get the most out of him.

I'm hearing about people labbing out kill confirms like Drag Down Uair -> F-Smash or whatever, so I do think a lot of issues we have with him currently (can't kill, doesn't deal enough damage ect) might improve as his metagame develops. I have high hopes for him.

 

[Knight Dude]

I will say though, Joker's air gun down is amazing for gimping characters with bad recoveries like Chrom. Nearly 3 stocked one by forcing him to recover low and knocking him back with the bullets.

Rainstorm styles on broke ****** once again I guess.

 

[TheMightyP]

But if someone wasn't SO salty that they had to call me a racial slur, how will I know I did a good job?

Not a slur, it's just a heated gaming moment.

 

[Deleted member]

Is there any way to clone objects in Stage Builder?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

wanna know why I think he is weak when not powered up? He gets the most work done has Joker, but outside of the metaverse, he is just Boring ol Ren, not capable of doing much

 

[Deleted member]

Quickplay is a dystopia, while Arenas are a democracy.

Looks like we're converting to Marxism.

 

[Deleted member]

I just gimped a Dark Pit with a Mii Sword Fighter.

...

I think Joker has potential, but his one glaring flaw is that he can only hit you really hard with smash attacks. Idon is correct about Joker having Sheik's Syndrome.

I will say though, Joker's air gun down is amazing for gimping characters with bad recoveries like Chrom. Nearly 3 stocked one by forcing him to recover low and knocking him back with the bullets.

I can confirm that.

 

[Deleted member]

An open letter to the Tournament Organizers of the Smash Community

Dear valued TOs,

You guys work so hard for this community, and none of us can thank you enough. Some of our most valued and iconic moments in the Smash community would never have happened without you guys. You all are the reason the Smash community has lived so long through thick and thin, turning a party game into something more, and even catching the attention of our valued game's developers. Tournament play is the sole reason Smash was able to evolve into something more than just a casual foray into gaming history, and instead into a deep and complex game filled with so many variables and strategies. You could even compare it to chess. Without tournaments, Smash would be nothing. And without tournament organizers, there can be no tournaments.

Sure, you guys have made some shaky decisions over the years. Keeping custom moves legal for so long in Smash 4, not rebanning wobbling in Melee after EVO legalized it for some reason, and not banning Meta Knight in Brawl. However, despite all of this, we have stuck with you. You are the ones who make our communities great, regardless of which game it is. We are very grateful to have you in our community.

However, there is one issue that I cannot excuse.

And that is the decision to legalize Deathbox in the Smash Ultimate stagelist.

1. It's a very boring stage

Deathbox isn't even that interesting. It's a box with lava on all sides. That's it. No platforms, no ledges, there's nothing here except for the lava. This is objectively one of the most disinteresting stages in the entire game.

2. It is a stage which actively encourages degenerate play

Tell me, in Deathbox, what exactly is the "optimal strategy"? I'll tell you: it's to corner camp. Since there's no ledge here, corner camping is a viable strategy, and that makes it very boring. Most games in Deathbox go like this: one player wins neutral once, gets a decent percent lead, and then they just camp in the corner and back throw the opposing player into the lava and watch them bounce all around the stage until they hit them once to send them out the little hole in the top. There's no strategy here, it's mindless. It's brainead play. Tell me, how is this fun to watch? I'll give you an answer: it isnt.

3. It's an unbalanced stage

Deathbox, being such a large stage, inherently gives an advantage to faster characters such as Fox or Sonic and cripples slower characters such as Ganondorf or Incineroar. The moment the faster character wins neutral, it's over. Slower characters cannot camp as easily, and the larger space gives the faster characters more room to run circles around their opponents in that first neutral exchange. It's inherently uneven and unbalanced, and the decision to make it a starter of all things is baffling.



I hope you all have listened to my points carefully. I'm not trying to be pushy about anything, but I just feel like the stage actively harms competitive play and hurts the overall spirit of the game.

I hope you all have an honest, open conversation about banning Deathbox, and an honest, open conversation about not legalizing custom stages anymore.

With regards,

Gayfoshill.

 

[Idon]

I can confirm that.

Also I just gimped a Dark Pit with a Mii Sword Fighter.

Bro, what does this have to do with Joker's air gun down.

 

[Deleted member]

Bro, what does this have to do with Joker's air gun down.

That was meant to be something else.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Bro, what does this have to do with Joker's air gun down.

nothing...the answer is nothing...because a Mii ain’t Mr.J

 

[Alicorn]

Quickplay:
-Someone goes items, and I do not want items.
-Loses because of Final Smash
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I feel the same way about Battle field stages on Quick play. I'm more E123

 

[Idon]

wanna know why I think he is weak when not powered up? He gets the most work done has Joker, but outside of the metaverse, he is just Boring ol Ren, not capable of doing much

Oh I see, Sakurai was doing an accidental no-persona run and only found out about Joker's persona at the very end of the game, which is why you get it so late.

Truly, the genius that went into this character.

 

[Coricus]

Yay, I found my stage IDs! So of course I'm gonna pelt you guys over the head with them now LOL.

Actually, might as well throw in my Friend Code since you can look up what your Friends have posted as well.

SW-4794-7152-2904

Chapter 1 Boss
ID: 8KRW9XK2
Song: Boss Fight 1 - Kid Icarus Uprising

Terraria Ovrwrld
ID: K91VYLL5
Song: Galaga Medley

Swapnote
ID: 3YDFPG13
Song: Mii Channel

Stages for everyone

 

[Deleted member]

Yay, I found my stage IDs! So of course I'm gonna pelt you guys over the head with them now LOL.

Actually, might as well throw in my Friend Code since you can look up what your Friends have posted as well.

SW-4794-7152-2904

Chapter 1 Boss
ID: 8KRW9XK2
Song: Boss Fight 1 - Kid Icarus Uprising

Terraria Ovrwrld
ID: K91VYLL5
Song: Galaga Medley

Swapnote
ID: 3YDFPG13
Song: Mii Channel

Stages for everyone

I will download and yeah all of them!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Joker strikes me as similar to Shulk meta wise.

Hes gonna have a lot of people screaming potential without looking at how hard it is to pull off.

Essentially I think many will overinflate his abilities.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

You know blame this on the ****ing hype but I think Scorpion and Sub-Zero have a higher chance of getting in than we're giving them credit for. We always say, oh it's not popular in Japan so it won't happen but I think that it ACTUALLY could. Like, do I necessarily think it'll happen this Fighter Pass? No, I don't. If there's a second one though? I think either one of then have a DAMN good chance of getting in.

I just want that sweet Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat to finally come true.

 

[TheMightyP]

Hey, wait a minute, if stage builder is back, wouldn't that also mean that very soon, we should see the "Who can make it over Doug Bowser's grandma's half cousin's stepson's niece's brother's lava inesescapable dastardly death pit of doom?"


Get hyped...?

 

[Deleted member]

I assume there hasn't been any datamines yet right? I hope there's some soon I would love to get some hot new info.

 

[Will]

You know blame this on the ****ing hype but I think Scorpion and Sub-Zero have a higher chance of getting in than we're giving them credit for. We always say, oh it's not popular in Japan so it won't happen but I think that it ACTUALLY could. Like, do I necessarily think it'll happen this Fighter Pass? No, I don't. If there's a second one though? I think either one of then have a DAMN good chance of getting in.

I just want that sweet Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat to finally come true.

B-B-B-But Mortal Kombat is ultra violent!!!

 

[Shroob]

Well...


Ain't gonna be many people who appreciate it, but

Spoiler: After 5 days of failure, finally solo'd the 2nd hardest boss in Granblue

I feel pretty accomplished.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

You know blame this on the ****ing hype but I think Scorpion and Sub-Zero have a higher chance of getting in than we're giving them credit for. We always say, oh it's not popular in Japan so it won't happen but I think that it ACTUALLY could. Like, do I necessarily think it'll happen this Fighter Pass? No, I don't. If there's a second one though? I think either one of then have a DAMN good chance of getting in.

I just want that sweet Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat to finally come true.

Tis just too bad that they're from a western company which really hurts their chances especially given Warner Bros. has no association with Nintendo to begin with. At least with Microsoft. Nintendo has been buddy-buddy with them so giving characters like Banjo and Steve an actual shot in getting in.

Mortal Kombat in Smash Bros. will never happen. Simple as that. That and people are always saying they're too violent for Smash.

 

[Will]

Well...


Ain't gonna be many people who appreciate it, but

Spoiler: After 5 days of failure, finally solo'd the 2nd hardest boss in Granblue

View attachment 210086

I feel pretty accomplished.

i didnt know granblue had calamity ganon

 

[Michael the Spikester]

That face when people still supports for Scorpion to be in Smash although you're more likely to see snow fall in Hell happening.

 

[Will]

Tis just too bad that they're from a western company which really hurts their chances especially given Warner Bros. has no association with Nintendo to begin with. At least with Microsoft. Nintendo has been buddy-buddy with them so giving characters like Banjo and Steve an actual shot in getting in.

everyone just gonna forget tonight?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Mortal Kombat in Smash Bros. will never happen. Simple as that. That and people are always saying they're too violent for Smash.

Alright, I will actually bet on this. If Smash continues building on Ultimate as Ultimate built on 4 for the foreseeable future I ABSOLUTELY think Mortal Kombat will eventually be in Smash. Never is a very strong word and for something as big as Mortal Kombat I think some rules can bend.

 

[Idon]

Joker strikes me as similar to Shulk meta wise.

Hes gonna have a lot of people screaming potential without looking at how hard it is to pull off.

Essentially I think many will overinflate his abilities.

Yeah, but instead of rapid-fire art switching, it's using gun-sliding which is his faux-wavedash thing.
I think ultimately what will make or break him is how he's going to deal with common gatekeeper and pocket characters like Lucina and Wolf who are far easier to pick up and do well with than Joker.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

everyone just gonna forget tonight?

From a Japanese created game that happens to be owned by ours truly Nintendo. Doesn't count.

 

[Deleted member]

Well...


Ain't gonna be many people who appreciate it, but

Spoiler: After 5 days of failure, finally solo'd the 2nd hardest boss in Granblue

View attachment 210086

I feel pretty accomplished.

That is an interesting boss design.
It is just red matter that is shaped like a dragon.

 

[Will]

That face when people still supports for Scorpion to be in Smash although you're more likely to see snow fall in Hell happening.

That face when people still cry out to the streets that Erdrick is 100% the next character and anyone who believes otherwise is clearly mentally ill.

From a Japanese created game that happens to be owned by ours truly Nintendo. Doesn't count.

Let me support things I want to support. Party crashing is my job.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Alright, I will actually bet on this. If Smash continues building on Ultimate as Ultimate built on 4 for the foreseeable future I ABSOLUTELY think Mortal Kombat will eventually be in Smash. Never is a very strong word and for something as big as Mortal Kombat I think some rules can bend.

I see Sans getting into Smash long before Mortal Kombat ever would and even then that's stretching it.

Though I will admit Scorpion has better chances then say like *Cough* Goku which I still don't know why the **** that's a thing to begin with.

 

[Shroob]

That is an interesting boss design.
It is just red matter that is shaped like a dragon.

No, bosses turn red then fade to nothing when they die. It's normally golden, I just screen shotted during the death animation.

 

[Idon]

everyone just gonna forget tonight?

I don't think being "from" the West hurts as much as being "owned" by the west and thus requiring negotiations across an entire sea.
Nintendo (As far as I know) still own Dark Samus.

Also helps it's an echo which obviously requires less work.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

That face when people still supports for Scorpion to be in Smash although you're more likely to see snow fall in Hell happening.

Man, are you REALLY saying that? Like, not joking? Because Snow fall in hell was supposed to happen before Snake, Cloud, Ryu, Ridley, K. Rool, and Joker.

You can't just dismiss characters like this anymore. Anything, besides maybe a non video game character, is possible.

 

[Deleted member]

So.

In the past, I've always thought and have said that Snake's trailers since Brawl and his return in Smash Ultimate's reveal trailer are the top of the top in terms of any fighting game trailer. If we wanna just stick it to Smash, Cloud's trailer is VERY CLOSE and Joker's trailer is only a tiny step down from Cloud.

That being said, I've always been a super duper casual fan of Mortal Kombat. I've always known about it, love the whole aspect about it, but only have played one of the older games and Mortal Kombat 9. However, the newest and final trailer for Mortal Kombat 11 is out.

Honestly?

This is the first time I think a trailer has rivaled Snake's reveal. This is on some mother ****ing Halo 3's "Believe" trailer levels.

I actually REALLY want this game now.

 

[Coricus]

B-B-B-But Mortal Kombat is ultra violent!!!

The real problem is that the latest Mortal Kombat games are apparently banned in Japan, LOL.

Violence ain't a problem, but not being readily available to the audience that gets thought of first and foremost in regards to Smash is

well it's not impossible, but it's something that doesn't have solid footing in Nintendo's backyard. And that's honestly more of a condemnation than it not being viable at all, LOL

Now of course is the perfect time to mention that Skyrim sold really really well in Japan right