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[SlickWylde]

Um, you do realize there wasn’t a Metroid game for the N64 right?

What did you just say to me? You better watch yourself young person. I don't like your tone. It's called Metroid Madness, and they made it specifically for ME, so that's why you haven't heard of it, noob.

(Aka yes, you're right I totally forgot lol)

 

[Deleted member]

Well friend request me for now and i’ll make sure to inform you when it happens next

I'll send ya one as soon as I get to my Switch later today.

My username is "MooMew64" on NSO, just so there's no confusion. This site is the only place I still go by Mr. Wario.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, it bugs me a bit how much effort they put into Joker.

So many veteran characters that drag along outdated/vanilla move-sets, and then random third-parties show up as DLC with an immaculate level of detail and totally unique mechanics or things other characters were denied. Similar things happened with Ryu, Bayonetta, and Cloud, and as a Nintendo fan it's become a bit of a pet-peeve.

Don't get me wrong, he looks fun and I love his aesthetic. And I understand the idea of roster work-load and the drive to make DLC desirable for purchase/worth the money. It just seems a little lame to reserve that level of care for all the non-Nintendo add-ons.

I think this is a byproduct of more third parties being added in the later games where this level of care was more common.
Like, if you look at say, K Rool, the amount of detail and care in his moveset is great, but then you look at Donkey Kong who has a ton of moves that just have no reference. The design philosophy just changed over time I guess.

 

[Gentlepanda]

banjo getting in would more likely be a result of years of fan demand rather than the specific intent to appeal to N64 fans imo

 

[TheCJBrine]

Do we know if Jokers School uniform alt costume is labeld as a Fighter Spirit? Because if that follows the pattern of the other Alt costume fighter spirits like Meta Ridley, Overalls Wario etc., I feel Spirit theory got even more fuel at this point

what's Spirit theory?

That Spirits disconfirm? Because I'm willing to believe that at this point.

 

[Flyboy]

holy **** I'm gonna throttle this dude in the joker forum who keeps calling him "pay2win"

 

[TheMightyP]

I think this is a byproduct of more third parties being added in the later games where this level of care was more common.
Like, if you look at say, K Rool, the amount of detail and care in his moveset is great, but then you look at Donkey Kong who has a ton of moves that just have no reference. The design philosophy just changed over time I guess.

Besides, 1st parties have gotten FAR more creative since Brawl. Ironically, the least creative character in that entire roster was Sonic himself lol.

 

[Roberk]

Honestly, it bugs me a bit how much effort they put into Joker.

So many veteran characters that drag along outdated/vanilla move-sets, and then random third-parties show up as DLC with an immaculate level of detail and totally unique mechanics or things other characters were denied. Similar things happened with Ryu, Bayonetta, and Cloud, and as a Nintendo fan it's become a bit of a pet-peeve.

Don't get me wrong, he looks fun and I love his aesthetic. And I understand the idea of roster work-load and the drive to make DLC desirable for purchase/worth the money. It just seems a little lame to reserve that level of care for all the non-Nintendo add-ons.

That’s just old characters vs new characters, it’s not party specific. Sonic and Snake as the first 3rd parties still have movesets restricted by Sega wanting Sonic in at the last minute and Sakurai not being able to give Snake guns/knives. Ultimate 1st party newcomers get a lot of love too Inkling has unique mechanics, 8 costume alts, and Splatoon was one of the only franchises to receive a stage in Ultimate.

 

[SlickWylde]

I think this is a byproduct of more third parties being added in the later games where this level of care was more common.
Like, if you look at say, K Rool, the amount of detail and care in his moveset is great, but then you look at Donkey Kong who has a ton of moves that just have no reference. The design philosophy just changed over time I guess.

Agreed. But I think they mean Sakurai could have revamped some of the old characters and updated their moves. (Which they did to some). I think it's just that at some point it's not worth their effort, since they're trying to focus on the new. I do agree though, there are many characters I'd love to see reworked with more referential movesets.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Well yeah. Games from that era have just cycled into the nostalgia exploitation spotlight at this point due to the natural aging process of the fans. That's why I have my money on Banjo and Crash.

I think people need to remember that nostalgic 90's kids who first played smash when it came out aren't the series' only target demographic. The original Smash came out 20 years ago, and people who were either very young when it came out, or were born around the same time or slightly after (like me), are now grown up adults and probably play Smash themselves too. And that's not even mentioning the new current generation of kids. Imo, catering to only 90's nostalgia is really gonna hurt interest with the other demographics.

 

[Wademan94]

What would a Metroid 64 even be like? Would it be more like Prime? Or more like the SNES game?

I’d probably see it as an advancement of the SNES game, a 3D platformer with a lock-on system like Ocarina of Time.

 

[RawstyleEevee]

what's Spirit theory?

That Spirits disconfirm? Because I'm willing to believe that at this point.

Yes that is Spirit theory

 

[Iridium]

Do we know if Jokers School uniform alt costume is labeld as a Fighter Spirit? Because if that follows the pattern of the other Alt costume fighter spirits like Meta Ridley, Overalls Wario etc., I feel Spirit theory got even more fuel at this point

I just checked the list of spirits, and that one does not seem to be there.

 

[Deleted member]

holy **** I'm gonna throttle this dude in the joker forum who keeps calling him "pay2win"

Everyone is pay2win if you pay your opponent to throw the match RollSafe

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Well friend request me for now and i’ll make sure to inform you when it happens next

I can send you a request now, but is your switch user name the same as on here? My Switch name is Tako 2sday btw, just a shortened version of this one.

 

[staindgrey]

Alright, I've thought about it since Joker's reveal, and I want to make a Fighters Pass prediction:

1. Joker (duh)
2. Erdrick/Hero/whoever the DQ guy is
3. Banjo & Kazooie
4. Resident Evil rep
5. Yet unknown Nintendo property rep

I think a Microsoft rep is probable, and E3 is the time Microsoft would want to announce it to really hammer home the "Xbox anywhere" initiative they're apparently planning, proving their goal by bringing a "hardcore" fans' desire to a competitor's console. I don't think it's Steve, it could be Master Chief, but my money's on Banjo & Kazooie.

Then, my bias is showing, but I honestly believe that if Nintendo is wanting to dip into outside markets, Resident Evil offers one of the most lucrative markets in which to dip. The series has iconic characters, long term history, modern relevancy and the 20th highest earnings of any game franchise. Considering that Capcom allegedly has immediate plans for RE in 2020 and 2021 with RE3make, RE8 and a fourth CGI film, I think both companies would stand to benefit from a character's inclusion.

Lastly, I don't think all five will be third party. I think Nintendo has something up their sleeve for E3, something none of us expect. And I think that the final DLC character, like Corrin, will be used as a way to further promote that game. I'm holding onto that final spot to predict something unknown that we couldn't possibly predict until after E3.

With this setup, their Fighters Pass covers an extremely wide range: modern non-Nintendo-centric popular franchise (Joker), classic Eastern popular franchise (Erdrick), hardcore fans/popular Western franchise (Banjo & Kazooie), popular worldwide franchise (Resident Evil) and self-beneficial first party rep to double dip on sales. So for now, I'm sold on it.

I could swap B&K for Master Chief depending on the day, though.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

HELLO

DOES ANYONE WANNA PLAY SPLATOON 2 OR WHAT? I’M MAKING A LOBBY AND WOULD LIKE SOME PEOPLE TO JOIN

I’ll just tag the people that played last time or that said they were interested.

@Professor Pumpkaboo @Pokechu @The Stoopid Unikorn @SegaNintendoUbisoft @Jojalole @AmericanDJ @Coricus @Yellowlord @Wario Bros. @Dr. Jojo Phantasma @ShotoStar @Fenriraga @Zeke The Zekenator UtopianPoyzin @PeridotGX @Moydow @Androobie
Anyone else interested let me know. If you are interested please friend request me

._. It's the middle of the day.... for me...

 

[IsmaR]

Greetings fellow regular users.

Oh darn that was quick. Nevermind.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

The SEGA Crew.

Characters: 3
Assist Trophies: 4
Songs: 42 (47 counting victory fanfares)
Stages: 4
Spirits: 23 19 12
Mii Costumes: 5
Guidances/Codecs: 3
CGI Cutscene/Trailer use: 3
Special Trailer style: 2
Most emotional moment: 1

I’d say Sega has done good overall in repping their squad

Question:

Who here owns The Mercenaries 3D?

'Cause I wanna play it again sometime.

Haven’t played or even heard anything about this game in years...sexy mega sized minigame

It's a stark contrast to Cloud, who's arguably taken a step backwards from Smash 4.

Cloud didn’t even more anywhere when it comes to his representation...he just stood still...watching everyone else be given something new even if it isn’t much

I’m glad DLC character are coming with their own spirits. Spirits maybe glorified stickers, but I love any representation of characters we can get.

Plus...more Makoto is always perfect

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Brb, gonna main Joker’s Akechi alt.

**** Akechi

 

[Just a penguin]

Greetings fellow regular users.

Same energy:

 

[TheMightyP]

My fighter pass predictions:
0. Plant
1. Joker
2. Erdrick
3. Capcom Character
4. Namco Character
5. A Non-Microsoft new company rep

Okay, so, I know number 5 seems bizarre, especially coming from a guy who would love Steve in Smash... but I just don't see a Microsoft rep happening.

 

[Opossum]

holy **** I'm gonna throttle this dude in the joker forum who keeps calling him "pay2win"

Just screenshot their posts and save them in case Joker doesn't become OP. Then you can laugh at them later.

That helped immensely back in the days of people fervently denying Box Theory.

 

[Alternis]

Honestly, it bugs me a bit how much effort they put into Joker.

So many veteran characters that drag along outdated/vanilla move-sets, and then random third-parties show up as DLC with an immaculate level of detail and totally unique mechanics or things other characters were denied. Similar things happened with Ryu, Bayonetta, and Cloud, and as a Nintendo fan it's become a bit of a pet-peeve.

Don't get me wrong, he looks fun and I love his aesthetic. And I understand the idea of roster work-load and the drive to make DLC desirable for purchase/worth the money. It just seems a little lame to reserve that level of care for all the non-Nintendo add-ons.

Honestly I had a similar thought when seeing Joker's victory screen. It's probably because as Smash has gone on, character movesets get more detailed and such. Couple that with Sakurai's (imo kind of annoying at this point) tendency to avoid changing already made movesets, and this occurs. Since all the major Nintendo characters are in, we'd honestly need a game that overhauls existing characters to ever get such a thing.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Hey, hey, remember who wasn't in it for some reason?

Point, Jill.

Remember when Jill wasn't even in Resident Evil 6 the game that was meant to be a culmination of "The Story So Far"? But guess who was.

 

[Gyrom8]

As someone who knows very little bout Resident Evil, what would be the most likely stage? Guess that depends on which character they went for, though

Also while guns now seem to be a-okay, I'm guessing there'd be some sanitisation of the zobmies if they were stage hazards or spirits - right?

 

[Deleted member]

holy **** I'm gonna throttle this dude in the joker forum who keeps calling him "pay2win"

Lol we don't even know if he's good yet.

 

[Deleted member]

My predictions are pretty much like many here, apart from Joker and PP:
-A SE rep most likely DQ related
-A Bamco rep
-A Capcom rep
-An outlier. Meaning either a new company, a Nintendo new franchise, a second DLC rep from any company, a wester rep.

Im not going to make any further predictions until new info comes.

 

[Deleted member]

holy **** I'm gonna throttle this dude in the joker forum who keeps calling him "pay2win"

Smash itself is pay to win. You have to buy the game in order to have a chance of victory. You can't win if you don't have the game, smh Nintendo.

 

[staindgrey]

Remember when Jill wasn't even in Resident Evil 6 the game that was meant to be a culmination of "The Story So Far"? But guess who was.

I will end you.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Okay, so, I know number 5 seems bizarre, especially coming from a guy who would love Steve in Smash... but I just don't see a Microsoft rep happening.

I absolutely agree with you.

I feel like people are kinda jumping the gun when it comes to a Microsoft rep in Smash. If a partnership with Nintendo and another company means said company will get one of their characters in Smash, why hasn't Ubisoft gotten someone like Rayman or Ezio to represent themselves?

And tbh, I think western third party characters in general are kinda unlikely at this point, anyways.

 

[praline]

I can send you a request now, but is your switch user name the same as on here? My Switch name is Tako 2sday btw, just a shortened version of this one.

Yeah it’s the same

 

[Wademan94]

As someone who knows very little bout Resident Evil, what would be the most likely stage? Guess that depends on which character they went for, though

Probably either Raccoon City or the inside of the abandoned mansion from the first game.

 

[Flyboy]

It sounds like everyone's predictions are lining up with the DQ Hero, Leon S. Kennedy, Sol Badguy, and Tracer leak.

Not that I think it's happening, just funny to me. If we have to go with the assumption we are getting Capcom, Square, Bamco, and Wildcard I'll probably want to see Phoenix Wright, 2B (Dragon Quest would be cool too, just going personal preference), Velvet Crowe, and Style Savvy OR Elma.

God I can't believe I get to play as Joker tonight. Wow.

 

[TheMightyP]

If you had to ask me about moveset overhauls, I would say Sonic needs it the most, but aside from that, nothing to major. Ganon should get a projectile, perhaps Toon Link and Link should deploy their gliders, but truth is, unless a character desperately needs it, like Ganon's Sword or Luigi's Poltergust, or Bowser pre-Smash 4, I'm not a big fan of completely revamping character movesets, especially for those who don't need them. Maybe a couple of moves could be changed, but not the whole entire character.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Paper Mario is its own franchise kinda, right?

But yeah in general N64 mostly reinvented franchises, as opposed to creating new ones. Think about the difference between the N64 versions of these franchises and the SNES versions:

Super Mario
Donkey Kong
Metroid
Kirby
Zelda
Star Fox

Metroid on N64 is my favourite Metroid.

 

[Kingslime304]

I honestly want a RE character to be based on the Classic trilogy with some moves from 4-6.

 

[TheCJBrine]

with Phil Spencer's past statements and what he's recently said about good relations with Japanese companies and wanting to make E3 big, I think it's entirely reasonable to expect B-K in Smash.

and the weird backtracking from a couple of Minecraft employees that I've mentioned before, plus if Minecraft was truly used as leakbait.

 

[Graizen]

I honestly want a RE character to be based on the Classic trilogy with some moves from 4-6.

Regina from Dino Crisis

 

[staindgrey]

As someone who knows very little bout Resident Evil, what would be the most likely stage? Guess that depends on which character they went for, though

Also while guns now seem to be a-okay, I'm guessing there'd be some sanitisation of the zobmies if they were stage hazards or spirits - right?

Stage totally depends on who the character is. But there are some obvious choices:

• The Spencer Mansion. The iconic open area to start RE1/REmake. The series itself has tried to recreate or pay homage to this iconic design multiple times through RE0, Code Veronica and the RE5 "Lost in Nightmares" DLC.
• The RPD main hall. Iconic design and music, used prominently in both RE2 and RE3.
• The Queen Zenobia. RE: Revelations was a system seller for the 3DS and starred Jill as the lead, if she were the DLC rep. There are many parts of the ship to draw inspiration from.
• The Village in RE4. The most iconic part of Leon's most iconic game, and you avoid the problem of graphic-looking zombies in the background as Los Ganados were simply scary looking Spaniard farmers in this area.
• Any underground BOW facility. Like every RE game has one. It's what MvC3 did. While that would be my least favorite choice, it's something that universally applies to RE games.
• The Baker House. Extremely unlikely, but possible. RE7 was very well received and this is the most recent non-remake locale to use. But since the likelihood of them choosing an RE7 character to rep the whole franchise is basically zero, I doubt this one will make the cut.

 

[Deleted member]

If you had to ask me about moveset overhauls, I would say Sonic needs it the most, but aside from that, nothing to major. Ganon should get a projectile, perhaps Toon Link and Link should deploy their gliders, but truth is, unless a character desperately needs it, like Ganon's Sword or Luigi's Poltergust, or Bowser pre-Smash 4, I'm not a big fan of completely revamping character movesets, especially for those who don't need them. Maybe a couple of moves could be changed, but not the whole entire character.

Ganondorf is a funny case. At first people complain about him not having a sword and now that he has a sword, people want a proyectile move.