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~Tyeforce's Roster Predictions~

shinhed-echi

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I beg to differ.



Plus, what's the point in promoting a game solely for Japan if it didn't even make a big impact here? Reviving the franchise shouldn't involve wasting a spot in the roster on such a minor character.
I was talking a bout specifically saying that MIke or Agent J have higher chances.

I still strongly believe Takamaru can easily get over K.Rool and I stand by that belief.


"Wasting a spot" to you =/= "wasting a spot" to me

All the characters I mentioned earlier are the definition of a "space waster" to me.

(I bet the Ice Climbers and Pokemon Trainer were "space wasters" to you, huh?)

That aside...
I don't think Ice Climbers made any major impact here nor anywhere around the world..
Neither did Kid Icarus.

And I don't think spaces are limited, when there's a gathered team of elite specialists taking serious caution in who gets in and who becomes an AT. That's why I KNOW the roster will be balanced.


To everyone else:

I'm off to sleep now. I'm not one of those all-nighter update waiters. XD If it's a bad update I'd go to sleep in a bad mood, so I rather just laugh about it in the morning instead.
 

Blade Knight

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Ohh yeah, agree with him...Anybody with a brain would know that Mike Jones is a more capable fighter than frail, little Ashley...
i compleatly agree ashly has almost no chance of making it in but she has a greater chance then someone who no one has heard of.
 

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I was talking a bout specifically saying that MIke or Agent J have higher chances.

I still strongly believe Takamaru can easily get over K.Rool and I stand by that belief.


"Wasting a spot" to you =/= "wasting a spot" to me

All the characters I mentioned earlier are the definition of a "space waster" to me.

(I bet the Ice Climbers and Pokemon Trainer were "space wasters" to you, huh?)

That aside...
I don't think Ice Climbers made any major impact here nor anywhere around the world..
Neither did Kid Icarus.

And I don't think spaces are limited, when there's a gathered team of elite specialists taking serious caution in who gets in and who becomes an AT. That's why I KNOW the roster will be balanced.


To everyone else:

I'm off to sleep now. I'm not one of those all-nighter update waiters. XD If it's a bad update I'd go to sleep in a bad mood, so I rather just laugh about it in the morning instead.
Yes, but they are far more nostalgic and unique around the world than Mike Jones. Metroid was Kid Icarus' sister game, and I remember playing it on the NES. Pit was also in that outrageous Captain N cartoon, and had the the successful port to the GBA. Ice Climbers are also nostalgic and had some importance in Japan and Europe. I actually knew who these characters were when they were introduced. Mike Jones however, does not share these same retro qualities, and his game being introduce on the VC doesn't necessarily mean he's important enough to be in Brawl. Oh, and I was actually one of the people who wanted PT in Brawl. I'm not trying to antagonize you, but I believe some of your logic and reasoning is faulty.
 

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Yes, but they are far more nostalgic and unique around the world than Mike Jones. Metroid was Kid Icarus' sister game, and I remember playing it on the NES. Pit was also in that outrageous Captain N cartoon, and had the the successful port to the GBA. Ice Climbers are also nostalgic and had some importance in Japan and Europe. I actually knew who these characters were when they were introduced. Mike Jones however, does not share these same retro qualities, and his game being introduce on the VC doesn't necessarily mean he's important enough to be in Brawl. Oh, and I was actually one of the people who wanted PT in Brawl. I'm not trying to antagonize you, but I believe some of your logic and reasoning is faulty.
What's your view on Takamaru? Just wanna know, because Takamaru owns me at table tennis.
 

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Only a complete dunce would believe Mike Jones has high priority in brawl, Was he even mentioned in melee as a trophy?
 

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Ashley? You have got to be kidding me. She doesn't have a chance.
 

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Its a good roster but few problems that i have with are
1.Mario and the Legend of Zelda franchise are big 2 me. If i have to chose it would be geno, and ww Link
2.Not a big fan of stafy and Skapon
3.Kawashima, i don't have problem with him, but I think the ds won't get a character
 

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Its a good roster but few problems that i have with are
1.Mario and the Legend of Zelda franchise are big 2 me. If i have to chose it would be geno, and ww Link
They are Nintendo's biggest franchises.

2.Not a big fan of stafy and Skapon
It's SUKAPON!

3.Kawashima, i don't have problem with him, but I think the ds won't get a character
Why would there be a DS icon if it would only be used for a stage? They would've just used the Smash Bros. icon if there wouldn't be a rep for it.
 

shinhed-echi

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It was not released in the US, and Tamagon cannot be in because Devil has the Smash Bros icon.
It was released in the west. US is not the only western country. A friend of mine showed me the cartidge.

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The Kid Icarus being a sister game to Metroid is a WTF.

StarTropics and Nazo no Mursasame Jou were called sister games to Zelda, yet I don't see their "family" relation having anything to do with their chances. =/

I'm through with this subject already, cause it's a waste of time dealing with biased minds.

But do remember... Mr. Game and Watch, Ice Climbers, Pit, Dr. Mario and Roy didn't get through popularity alone. Just letting you know that's 1/5th of Melee roster.

So if the roster is 50 characters as you estimated, there's a good chance we'll get 10 non-popular characters and you'll just have to either suck it in, or live with them. Sakurai has gathered the very best to work on the game, not some random GameStop-shelf people.
 

FalcoChamp

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You have to think of move sets and functionality when you make the characters. Some of your ideas are good, but some are just unreasonable. And some characters need to gain their own moves like falco paper mario and young link other wise its just no good.
 

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It was released in the west. US is not the only western country. A friend of mine showed me the cartidge.

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The Kid Icarus being a sister game to Metroid is a WTF.

StarTropics and Nazo no Mursasame Jou were called sister games to Zelda, yet I don't see their "family" relation having anything to do with their chances. =/

I'm through with this subject already, cause it's a waste of time dealing with biased minds.

But do remember... Mr. Game and Watch, Ice Climbers, Pit, Dr. Mario and Roy didn't get through popularity alone. Just letting you know that's 1/5th of Melee roster.

So if the roster is 50 characters as you estimated, there's a good chance we'll get 10 non-popular characters and you'll just have to either suck it in, or live with them. Sakurai has gathered the very best to work on the game, not some random GameStop-shelf people.
GameStop shelf people? If we're starting to label people, I guess they would care more about GameStop shelf people, which is where the money is, rather than basement dwellers who have played crappy unknown games like StarTropics.
 

Tyeforce

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GameStop shelf people? If we're starting to label people, I guess they would care more about GameStop shelf people, which is where the money is, rather than basement dwellers who have played crappy unknown games like StarTropics.
I hate GameStop. They only gave me $5 for The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (which was a great game) and they would only buy my DS for $10! They're a big rip off.
 

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GameStop shelf people? If we're starting to label people, I guess they would care more about GameStop shelf people, which is where the money is, rather than basement dwellers who have played crappy unknown games like StarTropics.
I start labeling people when trolling n00bs start calling other people IDIOTS for no reason.

You know the most satisfactory thing of it all? You people didn't get a voting poll for this game. Boo hoo. And boy am I glad about it. I did get to vote, and not with the help of some crappy babel dictionary, but through my own intelect.

So watch your mouth you little punk, cause Nintendo isn't meant for the likes of yours alone. There's a big reason why the VIRTUAL CONSOLE exists, and Sakurais has proved many times that he is interested in the VC titles: Ice Climbers, Kid Icarus, Sin & Punishment along many others.

And I suggest you go play some real GOOD games before you think you have a say on what good games actually are. Non-popular doesn't mean non-good. I just thought I'd teach a loud mouth kid like you know that.

Now.. shouldn't you be off to school about now, son? Well, since at least I DO have things to do, I can't keep playing in this kindergarden forever. So ya, take care, buh bye then.


*now appears to have abandoned all useless conversations in this thread*
 

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Replace Kawashima with Ray MK 01 put Vaati in Midna's place, put Isaac in Bomberman's place and put Andy in Ashley's place and you got a great roster.
 

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I start labeling people when trolling n00bs start calling other people IDIOTS for no reason.

You know the most satisfactory thing of it all? You people didn't get a voting poll for this game. Boo hoo. And boy am I glad about it. I did get to vote, and not with the help of some crappy babel dictionary, but through my own intelect.

So watch your mouth you little punk, cause Nintendo isn't meant for the likes of yours alone. There's a big reason why the VIRTUAL CONSOLE exists, and Sakurais has proved many times that he is interested in the VC titles: Ice Climbers, Kid Icarus, Sin & Punishment along many others.

And I suggest you go play some real GOOD games before you think you have a say on what good games actually are. Non-popular doesn't mean non-good. I just thought I'd teach a loud mouth kid like you know that.

Now.. shouldn't you be off to school about now, son? Well, since at least I DO have things to do, I can't keep playing in this kindergarden forever. So ya, take care, buh bye then.
Your dear StarTropics crap means **** in Japan, Virtual Console my ***, Ice Climbers, Kid Icarus and Sin & Punishment are at least well known in Japan, please stop pretending you actually have any idea of how advertising or target groups work for video games, cause, honestly, trying to appeal to basement dwellers like you by adding a minor stupid character no one gives a **** about is by far not a smart business move.
 

Tyeforce

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I start labeling people when trolling n00bs start calling other people IDIOTS for no reason.

You know the most satisfactory thing of it all? You people didn't get a voting poll for this game. Boo hoo. And boy am I glad about it. I did get to vote, and not with the help of some crappy babel dictionary, but through my own intelect.

So watch your mouth you little punk, cause Nintendo isn't meant for the likes of yours alone. There's a big reason why the VIRTUAL CONSOLE exists, and Sakurais has proved many times that he is interested in the VC titles: Ice Climbers, Kid Icarus, Sin & Punishment along many others.

And I suggest you go play some real GOOD games before you think you have a say on what good games actually are. Non-popular doesn't mean non-good. I just thought I'd teach a loud mouth kid like you know that.

Now.. shouldn't you be off to school about now, son? Well, since at least I DO have things to do, I can't keep playing in this kindergarden forever. So ya, take care, buh bye then.


*now appears to have abandoned all useless conversations in this thread*
Hey, don't be so hard on him. (I'm in school right now, lol.)
 

HollabackRyu

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Nice roster, I would just exchange Kawashima for Dr. Lobe if you absolutely need to have a DS character.
 

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I think Krystal and Falco are the best representation for the StarFox series, myself.

However, this list definitely needs more Isaac. Especially considering it has Ashley in it, and she has no chance of making it whatsoever. More deserving characters should definitely be in with her.
 

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Keep in K. Rool I say for all those who doubt it. I mean he's been the antagonist for many DK games alike, and has continued to plot evil schemes throughout the years. Besides, we need someone evil from that series. Not to mention, through all the forms he's been in, he has massive potential for a moveset.

Good job with the roster though mate, the only ones I have high doubts about are Stafy, Mr. Kawashima, and the Animal Crossing Villager (maybe this could work as an AT, along with starfy).
 

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Replace Kawashima, Black Shadow,Paper Marioand AC vilager with Issac,Wolf,Sheik(don't know why) and Ray or Ness(don't know why either).
 

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If I had to cut it down to 45, the 5 characters that I would remove would be (in no particular order):

Prof. Kawashima
Sukapon
Takamaru
Black Shadow
Ashley

If I had to cut it down to 40, the other 5 I would remove would be (still in no particular order):

Midna
Bomberman
Black Shadow
Paper Mario
King K. Rool

...but I like those five.:(
 

elee88

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agreed. stafy, animal crosser, kawashima and what is that red blob thing second to last row last character? i'm pretty sure he's not going to be in either. I would also like to take out around 10 more of those characters, but I'm not going to say them as they would cause commotion and arguments against me.
 
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