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A different conclusion?Also, you say my case is "bad" [even though anybody who rereads the thread can tell that I'm spot-on in this case] but you don't really say what's so bad about it, you just offered a different interpretation of your play but it is no better than what I have argued. And the first conclusion you draw from a "weak" case is that I am purposefully reaching to paint you as scum [which really wouldn't be necessary at this point], which conveniently is the only scenario where it'd make sense for me to be scum.
And you accuse me of reaching?
**** outa here
This post pretty clearly says what I was doing with my vote. It was just because I was in the middle of gauging his alignment with the series of questions I was asking him and he left partway through so I wanted to make sure he didn't just drop it because I wasn't done with him.
We think he's an extremely obtuse but innocent bro based on his play. I know that's not a popular opinion with you but it's the truth.
You know who else is doing that right now and would be the right direction to take this day phase?: Nabe.
More votes please
(Soup too apparently wrt like and leave play)
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no, see, this is exactly why marshy's calling your play liquid. at one point, you were coming in here with the most whack 180 in the game, suddenly changing your read on ruy after a replacement asks you your opinion. now, without any significant rhyme or reason, your read has ONCE AGAIN 180'd.
so resolve the paranoia
so it's even worse then. instead of trying to explain why, you simply answer "why is your read on him this" with "i can't read him in the first place."
so what do you make of his most recent conversation with potato?
no but really, nobody else has a comment on this?
don't forget nabe, though nabe's a trendy scumpick for a lot of players at the moment as well.I hate not being able to post in poetry. Why you guys gotte be so obtuse >_<
1.) You've both pushed and nudged soup Day 1. Antoine pointed it out. Who knows where that push would've let to had BSP not gotten himself modkilled.
2.) Both of you have been on the JTB wagon [plus you've been vocal about him being scum with shen]
3.) You are both having YOLO in your scumteam as well in a similar "sleeper" position within the team
What I'm getting at should be pretty clear now. Shen has been your most consistent scumread for most of the game. Did you seriously not realize yet that you've voted alongside him on the biggest wagon Day 1 [soup], the biggest wagon and successful lynch of Day 2 [JTB] and that you've essentially brought YOLO into play as a potential scumbag together toDay - after him being seen as either townie or null by the entire roster up until now? For how sure you are that he's a scumbag you surely have agreed with a lot of what he has said and done.
@Rake.
#HBC | Nabe
The reason I'm perfectly capable of acknowledging aspects of your play I despise is because I've spent my entire mafia career seeing them. I helped push the Potter mislynch based on them. I got sunk by them in Pick Your Poison. I towntunneled you on them in Touhou. Why are you treating this as new information?
It's still completely exposition; the only change was that he took his writing out of the poetry style in favour of making a coherent post. He has posted less than I expected over the course of the game, and I'm reminded of Discworld when a quiet Gheb blindsided me by winning the game as mafia when I had a stark town read on him.
Motivation being not to ruffle feathers prematurely. And something specific helped you feel out the slot?
Yes. My implied response is that my problem has nothing to do with questioning Ryu, and everything to do with the circumstances in which it was done. The latter is exactly how I've been phrasing my problem with Shen's shift on Ryu, and it's Shen who is asking the wrong question, intentionally so.
You've looked at my assertion from the wrong angle. Rather than the assertion being strange as an explanation for Shen's new approach, and therefore faulty, in reality this strange assertion is the only factor that can explain Shen's new approach. The reason cited by Dietz is public disagreement of hydra heads (hydra discog); he says now retroactively that the second Ryu read was his read differing from Rake's read, posted because he had just arrived to the thread to do so. But Dietz was already here prior to that Ryu read post, and could have "corrected" the read at that juncture. It's also baffling that this new read on Ryu was first put forth as the Shen slot's read on Ryu, then later said only to be Dietz's read.
All I did was answer Yolo's question, "Why do I hate Laundry?" I can recognize aspects of a player's play that might influence another player's read without the necessity of those aspects having the same influence on my own read. And I certainly question a condemnation of my slot on the basis that my read should be a certain way, unless you find those aspects of Laundry's play that I pointed out to be scummy on his part, which isn't a read I've seen you express.
Except that trying to meta-read me off a game that's over 3 years old is really freaking stupid. In Discworld the scumteam also had a very calculated approach because Swiss was the mafia bookie who'd get a second NK upon guessing the lynch of that Day correctly. The whole play was based around me making it into lategame no matter what, so he could guess on me being lynched and net the win with his 2nd kill in the following Night. That's exactly what we did and how we won. If there's *any* game in my playing history that you can't base a eta-read on, then it'd have to be Discworld mafia.
#HBC | ѕoup
It's weird how Shen also keeps flip-flopping on Ryu and I think it holds merit to look at on his flip? You're the one who mentioned that he dropped his likeness for Ryu for a moment when the replacement came back in but apparently they solved what they didn't like Ryu even though they did hardly any discussion with each other?
Possible but unlikely at the moment. Has nothing to do with interaction and everything to do with the way Ruy's playing right now.
Unbelievably?
