Tranquility - Game Over

[Red_Antoine]

I reread yolo's posts. Those asterisks makes me think he keeps denying stuff repeatedly.
I mean look, I know it's yoloswag, but the cussing needs to be toned down. The repetitive aggression isn't gonna sit right with me.

Is it telling of his alignment or not?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Because I knew I was getting that lynch to go through. There's no point to me shouting about lynching Ruy if I know it's not gonna happen. I honestly don't know where I want to put my vote yet. JTB seems like a fine placeholder but..

You ever get the feeling you're missing the big picture of things? Like you're not looking at something you should? That's how I feel right now. I'm not ready to just re-vote JTB because I feel like I'm still missing a couple of things. I honestly need to re-read.

this is how i've been acting the entire day thus far and it's why my vote didn't get slapped on jtb after that one. at the moment, that lynch feels far too easy. he stands a good shot at flipping scum but that feels so knee-jerk to say and i have little to evaluate because most of the read on him can be fueled by how others interacted with him.

 

[Shenanigenius]

e_e

**** i want to stop going back to read **** but your stated reason here did not at all match up with your actions back then from what i remember

Probs something my other head said then, if you find it bring it up

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

No Ryu, it's more than that. I hate your vote. It was kneejerky and way too sudden and makes me feel like you didn't have a shred of confidence. I also believe that you still haven't gone out of your way to tell me why I'm scum and holding to the attack I made on you which boils down to much more than my feeling I got from you, and even then, you reacted so harshly that you gave me zero chance and instantly assumed I was a scum kingpin trying to pull the stops on you. That isn't normal. Not even from a town's standards.

like

i want to really dig into this more but there's an outside shot ruy is town and soup's interaction is clearly fueled by his incapability to realize a pressure vote

 

[Vinylic.]

no one needs to spoonfeed you **** stop sucking

Spoonfed's not what I'm asking for. Give me something worthwhile, and I'll give you something back.

It is simply easy. I don't give a single **** what you think I am, if you're gonna talk to me, it's definitely not going be this.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

**** it, i'll come back to shen's treatment of soup and soup's d2 wagon later. i don't give a rat's ass about inactivehunt 2014 anymore as i don't think there's much more to say on the matter

 

[Shenanigenius]

Spoonfed's not what I'm asking for. Give me something worthwhile, and I'll give you something back.

It is simply easy. I don't give a single **** what you think I am, if you're gonna talk to me, it's definitely not going be this.

Ok, let me give it a shot:

Who is your biggest scum read and why?

 

[Red_Antoine]

talk to me about this because i wasn't paying overall attention to this earlier. do you think anything can be drawn from that?

Yeah, it clear the division was there and what irked me where the people joining me more than the people defending him. This is a clear connection off how all six of them acted so if Soup flipped town or scum that interaction is extremely telling.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Spoonfed's not what I'm asking for. Give me something worthwhile, and I'll give you something back.

It is simply easy. I don't give a single **** what you think I am, if you're gonna talk to me, it's definitely not going be this.

You have 19 pages worth of reading and content you don't need to have someone to give you something worthwhile when you haven't done anything in the process nobody is going to spoonfeed you the whole game start playing or get the **** out like laundry said thanks

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ruy, tell me. Why did you 'troll' me? What did you possibly gain from trolling me there? I'm still so bothered by a response like that because it feels like a cop-out on your end. You could have manned up and said you were pressuring me but instead you chose a more selective answer and said you were trolling me. Who the **** does that? Please explain your mindset more for me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Shen I honest to god do not want to read your posts give me a reads-list kinda like the one Ruy did earlier and i'll go from there

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Spoonfed's not what I'm asking for. Give me something worthwhile, and I'll give you something back.

It is simply easy. I don't give a single **** what you think I am, if you're gonna talk to me, it's definitely not going be this.

"give me something worthwhile"

"i don't need to be told what to do"

"tell me what to do and i'll do it"

You're an idiot. No one in this game needs to inform you of what to do. No one needs to tell you where to look or what to say. No one should have to say "go read both of soup's wagons and tell me who you think is scum on them". No one should have to say, "if there's scum on BSP's wagon, where is it?" You should be able to talk about those things without someone prodding you or telling you to do so. When you play mafia, no one's here to hold your hand. You're not a tool. No one wants to inform your own opinion because you should be making your opinion without anyone telling you what to think. This is mafia. We are judging you based on you and if you can't be arsed to respond to things that are actually happening, then I simply don't know what to say. Please, stop asking me for directions. Get them yourself. There's plenty to comment on in this game and I know you haven't said a damn thing about anything relevant because you're too damn concerned about the amount of asterisks in marshy's posts.

 

[Red_Antoine]

Spoonfed's not what I'm asking for. Give me something worthwhile, and I'll give you something back.

It is simply easy. I don't give a single **** what you think I am, if you're gonna talk to me, it's definitely not going be this.

Vinyl you need to be able to stand on your own two feet in mafia.

You can't sit there and expect people to hold your hand. Look at something on your own and give something back on your own.

What you're essentially posting here is,

"Hey guys ask me anything you want to know!"

Which is what Pawn did day 1, and no one liked that.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Ruy, tell me. Why did you 'troll' me? What did you possibly gain from trolling me there? I'm still so bothered by a response like that because it feels like a cop-out on your end. You could have manned up and said you were pressuring me but instead you chose a more selective answer and said you were trolling me. Who the **** does that? Please explain your mindset more for me.

i'll let ruy respond but really your inability to see this is mindboggling.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Yeah, it clear the division was there and what irked me where the people joining me more than the people defending him. This is a clear connection off how all six of them acted so if Soup flipped town or scum that interaction is extremely telling.

let's say soup's not scum. where's the scum amongst those six people? who's the most likely to flip scum in your eyes?

 

[Red_Antoine]

Ruy, tell me. Why did you 'troll' me? What did you possibly gain from trolling me there? I'm still so bothered by a response like that because it feels like a cop-out on your end. You could have manned up and said you were pressuring me but instead you chose a more selective answer and said you were trolling me. Who the **** does that? Please explain your mindset more for me.

To get you to react to me...I've said this 5 or so times already. I wanted you to react to me and give something to talk about as well for others. Like seriously you can't be this inept right now.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Shen I honest to god do not want to read your posts give me a reads-list kinda like the one Ruy did earlier and i'll go from there

i would like this as well

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

To get you to react to me...I've said this 5 or so times already. I wanted you to react to me and give something to talk about as well for others. Like seriously you can't be this inept right now.

And....what did you get from it?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

To get you to react to me...I've said this 5 or so times already. I wanted you to react to me and give something to talk about as well for others. Like seriously you can't be this inept right now.

ding ding ding we have a winner

he literally was baiting a reaction to read you. kantrip said it. ruy said it. i think even jerkus said it as well. you've failed to grasp this repeatedly based on the assumption that you think ruy is scum when all he was doing was trying to read you.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

And....what did you get from it?

HE THOUGHT YOU WERE SCUM NUMPNUTS

not to mention he saw something interesting in the divisions of the game and who was joining the wagon as well. out of all the things that have happened this game, ruy's random vote on you has produced the most in terms of results

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ruy you kept dodging me when I asked you how you felt about me and why you scum-read and if you were trying to pressure me that's all fine and dandy but I dunno why it took so long for your head to catch up with your fingers i mean yeah you were trying to get a reaction out of me

I get that

Have you ever thought I was too? I was trying to get you to contest me. To throw it back in my face, and you chose a more selective and dodgy approach that doesn't sit right with me. If you were trying to pressure me, then what did you gain by doing that?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

ebwop: a good reaction that lead him to believe you were scum. that initial vote was not made on the presumption you were scum

#clarity

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Has BSP ever played?

I did get this up:
Vinyl. [1] - JTB
Circus [0] -
Shenanigenius [1] - Vinyl.
Red_Antoine [0] -
soup [4] - Shenanigenius, Potassium, pawndidater2, -Masquerain-
JTB [0] -
Potassium [2] - Gheb_01, soup
Gheb_01 [0] -
pawndidater2 [0] -
YOLOSWAG [1] - BSP
Cream Team [0] -
BSP [3] - YOLOSWAG, Red_Antoine, Cream Team
-Masquerain- [0] -

Not voting [1] - Circus

With two deaths and three reveals we should be somewhere. One thing that's noteworthy is the Soup wagon for sure. If we're all on the same board on Soup, shouldn't we be looking into this wagon just a little bit more?

A thoughtful notice! It's time to shift focus
From shallow banter and getting hooked on our individual flaws
To facts that are there, that no one seems to care
For looking where others are blind you deserve your applause!

One half was replaced, the other I have chased
Of the people who have tackled the soupy fellow - which ones can be believed?
The names are still white but time will shed light
Remember this instance and we'll know who's real and who has deceived!

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

anyways, i want food and i promised my little brother i'd take him somewhere. i'll be back later

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

A thoughtful notice! It's time to shift focus
From shallow banter and getting hooked on our individual flaws
To facts that are there, that no one seems to care
For looking where others are blind you deserve your applause!

One half was replaced, the other I have chased
Of the people who have tackled the soupy fellow - which ones can be believed?
The names are still white but time will shed light
Remember this instance and we'll know who's real and who has deceived!

like, really, i for once love gheb's play in a game

pls don't be scum gheb

 

[Red_Antoine]

let's say soup's not scum. where's the scum amongst those six people? who's the most likely to flip scum in your eyes?

I'd look on the JTB/Pawn/Joey area more if he flipped town. Yolo is someone I would at on the other side still if he flipped town, he's keeping him at arms length while not pushing him down.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

laundry seems so genuine again and it makes me feel fuzzy inside like in walmart

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I'd look on the JTB/Pawn/Joey area more if he flipped town. Yolo is someone I would at on the other side still if he flipped town, he's keeping him at arms length while not pushing him down.

which of jtb/pawn/joey is most likely?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

laundry seems so genuine again and it makes me feel fuzzy inside like in walmart

YOU LYNCHED ME THERE YOU ASSHAT

if you're gonna quote good townplay pls quote kvk or some ****

 

[Shenanigenius]

Have you ever thought I was too? I was trying to get you to contest me. To throw it back in my face, and you chose a more selective and dodgy approach that doesn't sit right with me. If you were trying to pressure me, then what did you gain by doing that?

Can you quote where you felt that way?


Completely off topic I am digging Washed's avatar more and more as I look at it

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

****

NOW i'm gone

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

My legitimate problem right now is that I'm town reading the majority of the active right now, and I really have too many question marks on the less active. Would scum make themselves so transparent and not post at all? Can the team really be in Vinyl./JTB/Joey? I want to say no. There's just a thing as too easy and that's it. I would be eating my own words if that were the case but I just cannot believe that to be the case. I'm worried about who I'm trusting right now because of this. Laundry has really shaped up Pawn's play, and **** me if he's playing me right now. Gheb looks great. YOLOSWAG's pushes and reads are good too. I wouldn't lynch any of these 3 anytime soon, and mostly everyone can agree with that.

Then there's players like Kantplay/Shen. Players who are kinda there but kinda not, posting on occasion but never really delving into arguments. I get a better feeling from Ruy from that reason because he is always here and he is constantly providing some sort of input. It looks good on paper, but there are still some loose ends that need to be tied up.

I would bet at least one scum between Kantplay/Shen. I really don't doubt any of my stronger town-reads nor will I bother re-thinking them because they're playing good enough where it's not even worth the risk of lynching them right now.

And then there's JTB/Vinyl. which are just inherent crapshoots. And Joey too to an extent but he's getting replaced. I don't think focusing on those 3 is worth anything right now because basically the only thing that can be talked about them is that they're inactive and inherently anti-town. I think we should focus on Potato/Shen and I would be more than happy with lynching between them over JTB who is just asking to be bussed or is an easy mislynch.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Shenanigenious Rake, a response I await
My accusation and my vote I have placed against you still stand
Dietzhead can't explain what goes on in your brain
Go ahead! Speak up soon before your hourglass runs out of sand!

 

[Vinylic.]

Vinyl you need to be able to stand on your own two feet in mafia.

You can't sit there and expect people to hold your hand. Look at something on your own and give something back on your own.

What you're essentially posting here is,

"Hey guys ask me anything you want to know!"

Which is what Pawn did day 1, and no one liked that.

Ah, gotcha. If that's what this is about, then I understand. Here's what I'm gonna do:
I'm reading back from the start of D2, because D1 was pretty much ****.
I'm gonna disregard my thoughts on yoloswag, and find something.

THEN, I'll reply to genius's question, and bam, I caught up. I'll go ahead do that.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

My legitimate problem right now is that I'm town reading the majority of the active right now, and I really have too many question marks on the less active. Would scum make themselves so transparent and not post at all? Can the team really be in Vinyl./JTB/Joey? I want to say no. There's just a thing as too easy and that's it. I would be eating my own words if that were the case but I just cannot believe that to be the case. I'm worried about who I'm trusting right now because of this. Laundry has really shaped up Pawn's play, and **** me if he's playing me right now. Gheb looks great. YOLOSWAG's pushes and reads are good too. I wouldn't lynch any of these 3 anytime soon, and mostly everyone can agree with that.

Then there's players like Kantplay/Shen. Players who are kinda there but kinda not, posting on occasion but never really delving into arguments. I get a better feeling from Ruy from that reason because he is always here and he is constantly providing some sort of input. It looks good on paper, but there are still some loose ends that need to be tied up.

I would bet at least one scum between Kantplay/Shen. I really don't doubt any of my stronger town-reads nor will I bother re-thinking them because they're playing good enough where it's not even worth the risk of lynching them right now.

And then there's JTB/Vinyl. which are just inherent crapshoots. And Joey too to an extent but he's getting replaced. I don't think focusing on those 3 is worth anything right now because basically the only thing that can be talked about them is that they're inactive and inherently anti-town. I think we should focus on Potato/Shen and I would be more than happy with lynching between them over JTB who is just asking to be bussed or is an easy mislynch.

i actually really like this

when i get back, i'll reread shen's **** from earlier, then i'll put a vote between the two of them

 

[Red_Antoine]

which of jtb/pawn/joey is most likely?

I'd say more JTB, on a reread I liked his post but really at this point I think I did off the Soup vote and less so reading what he posted with it.

throwing out a post since i wont be around until tonight or tomorrow

my vote on soup wasn't based solely on the circus comment, i was already wary of his play and his last post was what pushed me over. i jumped the gun on it though, i should've waited until i could be around to explain it more and defend it.

im down to support the pawn wagon right now though, regardless of soup being on it. it's a good direction to take and since i cant push the soup wagon atm, ill still contribute to something while im gone

Vote: Pawn



@underlined from this, you seem to know what the right reasons for jumping on soup are, but you are not voting him. what are those reasons and why haven't you thrown down a vote?

The bolded is very telling here. He says he jumped the gun but immediately after says he can't push the wagon, it's conflicting statement.

Joey is more a matter of, why do this now? Since I don't have a solid read on the slot.

Pawn's vote, eh its okish.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Ah, gotcha. If that's what this is about, then I understand. Here's what I'm gonna do:
I'm reading back from the start of D2, because D1 was pretty much ****.
I'm gonna disregard my thoughts on yoloswag, and find something.

THEN, I'll reply to genius's question, and bam, I caught up. I'll go ahead do that.

d1 wasn't **** though

if anything it might've been the more productive, if not maddeningly inconclusive, day

 

[Shenanigenius]

Shenanigenious Rake, a response I await
My accusation and my vote I have placed against you still stand
Dietzhead can't explain what goes on in your brain
Go ahead! Speak up soon before your hourglass runs out of sand!

Does this mean I didn't understand your question, or does it mean you specifically want to talk to Rake. I'm trying to meet you halfway as much as I can through the poems but I can only understand so much

 

[Red_Antoine]

Ah, gotcha. If that's what this is about, then I understand. Here's what I'm gonna do:
I'm reading back from the start of D2, because D1 was pretty much ****.
I'm gonna disregard my thoughts on yoloswag, and find something.

THEN, I'll reply to genius's question, and bam, I caught up. I'll go ahead do that.

If you can, attempt a full read list.

We just wanna see you bring something to the table and see where your head is at.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

My legitimate problem right now is that I'm town reading the majority of the active right now, and I really have too many question marks on the less active. Would scum make themselves so transparent and not post at all? Can the team really be in Vinyl./JTB/Joey? I want to say no. There's just a thing as too easy and that's it. I would be eating my own words if that were the case but I just cannot believe that to be the case. I'm worried about who I'm trusting right now because of this.

To lose is not our fate, though I can relate
The egos are garish, the inactives remain silent and the focus is loose
But get over your fear and be of good cheer
The mute ones are leaving and the rest we can surely deduce!