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Tranquility - Game Over

Red_Antoine

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go **** yourself. im not standing for your ****tyass ****** reads acting like theyre cool to stand. im not letting you pollute this thread with awful unwarranted horse**** townreads just like yu did in luigis mansion. its d2 and shenani hasnt done ****. **** yu

"herp derp durrrr im ruy flexin ****tyass townreads for no ****ing reason clearly i dont know how to learn my past mistakes"

IF YOU ARE TOWNREADING SHENANIGENIOUS

YOU ARE EITHER ******** OR SCUM OR BOTH. THERE IS NO ****ING REASON ANYONE WITH A SEMBLANCE OF SANITY SHOULD BE TOWNREADING HIM. DONT ARGUE THIS AND THE SOONER YOU THROW HIM ONTO YOUR NULL OR ****LIST THE BETTER FOR ALL INVOLVED AND WE CAN BE HAPPY. THANK YOU
...Isn't Bold just good enough?


JTB's move onto Pawn scream scum wtf I was so happy with just getting Pawn out of here at first for dead weight but BSP had already ****ed that up.

I was going to go off about how Ruy was butt**** useless but Marshy already had me on that so that'sg ood I don't have to get mad.

Shenani still so scummy and useless it hurts.

I can't stress enough how scummy JTB's move onto Pawn is though, like are people not seing that?

He backpedaled so hard off of Soup onto the easy *** lynch.

God

Lynch Pool

JTB
Pawn
Ryu
Shenani

Probably in that order

Ryu literally throwing htis game into the dumpster... which makes me think he's town because he does that whenever he's town.
aren't you pretty much just saying the same people

I like the Pawn direction, I'm not really for trying you right now since Koops isn't really digging lynching you. Also it tells me more about you, since how Pawn handled you, along with JTB. Is telling, but for Pawn's case he did something I think is far more scummy.
To clarify, I'm not up for lynching him now as long as he improves his attitude, but if D3 comes or if later this day comes with claims and whatnot I'd be willing to change.

I'm starting to doubt my gut...
I'm not gonna shut up, I'm gonna post whenever the hell I want.

Screw being a sheep I ain't doing that crap.
I'm not going to be a sheep either. I may be the lesser angry part of this hydra but...
A part of me hates this mindset that we have to just go ahead and lynch or just use our lynch to get rid of dead weight, but sometimes that's just what needs to happen. I absolutely despise this game right now if you want my honest opinion. I know that if J were here he would probably be writing a ****-ton of walls and yelling at everyone to stop and think. It would honestly be refreshing than this blood-thirsty lynch fanatic mindset that is plaguing games right now. I hate every moment of this, but I have to put aside my personal feelings. The problem this game has is exactly that. Pawn isn't going to do anything and he hasn't proved to be worth keeping alive. Vinyl. will be a ominous figure and will likely not get killed any time soon, which essentially leads us into wasting a mislynch on him or just taking a chance. Joey hasn't proven to do much either but **** knows if that will change. Kantplay is even playing lazy. JTB isn't hardly doing any work either. Then you have the other side of the spectrum with the active posters. Marshy is marshy. There's no changing that. Gheb is actually one of the more enjoyable players right now in this game as he's clear and concise in his poetic posts. Then we have Ryu, who has gone mad and I don't even know what to feel anymore but I get the vibe he's stressed.

Town doesn't lose games because of one person, they lose a whole faction. If townies do not put in the ****ing effort they're supposed to as town then they are going to lose this game. This is why BSP getting himself modkilled was a bad thing. I don't want to see that happen again and see a townie literally just give up. There is a defeatist vibe that I get from this game and everyone is just looking marshy and co. talk for them. It doesn't matter if they're right, and it doesn't make it an excuse to be lazy. Town needs to stop being ****ing lazy and get it together.
I don't even care what faction you are I love you right now.

Also ****ing replacements. People, if you're going to be deadweight as ****, just ****ing replace. I may be deadweight but I'm at least on a hydra and when I do post you get long content out of it like this (which I'll come back to a reads list instead of just ******** at quotes later)
can we stop saying **** like x and y arent scum together? its too early for that **** not to mention the fact youre pretty much doing the scums work FOR them should you be wrong. regardless we dont have a flipped scum so we should be focusing on the most individually scummy slot feel me. clearing a ****ty slot off a flip? :thumbsdown:
we don't even have a scum flip so + points for you
 

Red_Antoine

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Potassium and Ryu, if you like that post then you have to also not use that as an excuse to not post. I know it's mafia and **** gets heated and sometimes people are gonna be angry with you, and you know what? That's perfectly fine. I don't want you to cower or back down because someone is shouting at you, I want you to actually be useful and stop being scared about being wrong. That's the vibe I get from both of you, or at least, the vibe I get from Kantplay.

Am I right? Are you doing this approach because you're scared of being wrong right now, Kantplay?
Really? He makes a few harsh posts and you all get on his throat for it? He's trying something new at least, and I'm sure he doesn't mean any harm... most of the time.

Though if I say something bad, assume I mean it.

When I said I would post at night, I forgot to factor in how tired I would be and emotional phases.

/replace out (I forgot how this works lol)

Please forgive me. This is my best option personally, and it'll hopefully get my slot to beactive, which Iis needed at this point in the game. Good luck town, and I will see you all in a different game in mid-april.
Bye joey

Page 13 is useless. All useless. Maybe Ryu has some good posts there but everything else in that was useless. Time for Page 14.
 

Red_Antoine

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what the actual **** is ruy doing

is this a gambit, because that bait reeks
I can confirm it's not a gambit.

Hi Rob.
you're ****ing kidding me

he literally modkills himself on this page

what the actual ****

no wonder there's two replacements only 15 pages in
Welcome to my definition of hell.

Actually, this is more like purgatory.
that said i expect more out of you than this

you championed the bsp lynch and now you're just gunning for inactives after a modkill. c'mon guys
i didn't even notice this but i'm definitely not a fan of FoS: inactives

EBWOP: Because as much as I'm *****ing about the way Soup's playing, I'm not at all oblivious to how you lunged at him, got him to jump, and then instead of exploring that further, called him town and pushed BSP instead.
If I need to explain my PoV I will but I didn't expect the guy to ****ing modkill himself.

Yeah I don't even know what caused it because it didn't look like very much pressure and I don't remember people being all up in his face calling him bad or anything.

*shrug*
is he a new player

new player's sometimes pull moves like this, sadly. It's the way of life.
 

Red_Antoine

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Okay, so correction from me, only two people on KevinM's viglist were the same. Herpderp me not looking.

Just give me some time, I'm checking the votals right now and back to the reads list.
 

Red_Antoine

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Okay, so has anyone replaced Joey yet? I noticed now that Laundry's Sou's replacement.
 

Red_Antoine

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Has BSP ever played?

I did get this up:
Vinyl. [1] - JTB
Circus [0] -
Shenanigenius [1] - Vinyl.
Red_Antoine [0] -
soup [4] - Shenanigenius, Potassium, pawndidater2, -Masquerain-
JTB [0] -
Potassium [2] - Gheb_01, soup
Gheb_01 [0] -
pawndidater2 [0] -
YOLOSWAG [1] - BSP
Cream Team [0] -
BSP [3]
- YOLOSWAG, Red_Antoine, Cream Team
-Masquerain- [0] -

Not voting [1] - Circus

With two deaths and three reveals we should be somewhere. One thing that's noteworthy is the Soup wagon for sure. If we're all on the same board on Soup, shouldn't we be looking into this wagon just a little bit more?

I find it interesting that Soup never straight on went for BSP as well, but that wagon moved fast.

found out who's who now, this is a bit less confusing for me. can we get a first post update
 

Red_Antoine

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As for reads, I went back and read. The only thing I disagree with Ryu on is Soup (Laundry worded it better than I could have) and even then, I'm not completely sure. Call it wishy washy, I just call it leaving a little bit of room for doubt.
 

Red_Antoine

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I thought Laundry was still L-2. Think I'm done for now, but I'll try to be back later.
 

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Oh,

/proddoge

Hello. I see washed is here, so this is great.
This computer sucks though.
I'll put up something worthwhile, I promise. c:
 

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@Koops: Do the green names in your votelist mean anything? Also what do you mean three reveals

Is JTB the right direction for today, or do you have someone else in mind after reading?



Oh,

/proddoge

Hello. I see washed is here, so this is great.
This computer sucks though.
I'll put up something worthwhile, I promise. c:
Hold on let me channel my inner Kary:

 

Cream Team

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Mkay maybe I'll be that guy and say that I like laundry's play now. Even past the stretch of a point that he didn't know BSP mod killed himself and Circus was vanilla NK'd (I'm sure he wouldn't have even mentioned those things if he was scum and knew about em from reading a QT), he shines bright like the Laundry that I've always known and loved.

Fuck.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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It's cool this game finally took off in the way it did.

Unvote

I need to think. And Laundry, that phase of mine is far gone. Yes, I was pissed. That's evident enough and I wasn't trying to deny it, however, you're right. I was throwing myself at everyone to try and make things stick. I did what I did and talking to me about it is just a sore reminder of how I handled it poorly. I really wish you got at my more recent posts to be honest but you did do that whole blurb at 5 am in the morning (what are you even doing laundry get some sleep man).
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I always have a poor beginning in my town games because I find it hard to get my footing (like literally it's just a constant about me sorry) but whatever this is pointless to talk about.

Laundry's catch-up post is good. I want to read him as townie, but **** me sideways if Pawn's actions aren't just dreadful. I know Laundry is going to come in here full-force and tell me how Pawn was stupidTown, but I can't forget the way Pawn handled this whole game. I'm cautious of him for certain, but lynching him now (especially when he's much more willing to give content) isn't the right thing to do.

Laundry, you mostly agree with me on Ruy. Would you be willing to help me drive his lynch today? I know I said earlier that I don't believe he's the play, but that was for the sake of Pawn being a much better one. Who are the your top lynches at the moment?
 

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I have my concerns about Ruy but I don't see enough to say Ruy's overall scum. Making bad decisions, yes, but I doubt he's scum here. He's prone to make bad decisions on a whole and I think he's going too hard to defend a slot he doesn't need to as scum simply for the sake of "old hydra mates". Again, citing my disclaimer that I will not read Ruy well, and that question to JDietz still stands overall. I want a second opinion on that from him first before I listen to others.
I'm with the idea that Ruy is just badtown at the moment because I see some earnesty from him in some senses but I also just hate his bitter attitude towards Gorf and everyone else for getting on his case. He seems stressed regardless of alignment and I wanted to give Ruy a chance to catch his breath and start thinking. I asked you if you would push the Ruy lynch with me prior to this post because the most I got out of your catch-up was that you didn't like him, yet here you're telling me otherwise.

There's definitely scum around, it's definitely not in JTB/myself/Joey/Vinyl
What makes you think this? I don't agree that the whole team could be comprised there but I damn well feel like at least 2 could be in there What about Vinyl. even strikes you as remotely **** playing town? Did you see my earlier complaints about him? Yes, JTB is a crapshoot, but he's still a player and a player that will need to be read eventually. Give more than just a crapshoot. Tell me if you could lynch him or not because you're not telling me anything as far the direction you'd like to go.
 

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Mkay.

Unvote

Vote Shenani


Well at least that replacement totally wiped a slot I'd surely want the fuhh outta here.

@ #HBC | Kary #HBC | Kary is there a Joey replacement?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Shen, I love that you're willing to write all these fantastic walls and post but I really need to see that vote move. Do you still think I'm scum? Is there anyone else you think could be scum? These are simple things I shouldn't have to ask you because I really can't be bothered to read your walls at the moment, and it's not because it's a wall per se, it's just that the wall seems unnecessary. Give me more to work with.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Potato, find your stuff on that one slot. I'm growing concerned the more I read you.
Do you buy the interaction and response Kantplay gave me prior to me asking him why he's playing the way he is, or is it just an excuse?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Vote: JTB

(he was a lot lower on the votecount than I thought)


Rake get in the hydra QT when you read this, we have a lot of discussing to do
Reminder to stop making preemptive posts and actually read the thread before I say something. Good gorf. That was fast.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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His entrance was fine, but what I've been reading today is not.

He's only town here if he honestly believes what he's saying to Cream Team and means it on his Rake read, which I'm so far not convinced on. Otherwise he's faking his town meta hoping a hydra hides the spots and doing a poor job.

All of that subject to drastic change, especially once I get to talk to Rake, but I'm in no way okay with the slot anymore
This is incredibly telling to me.
 

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Damn man that's the thing I hate about relying on meta for things cuz like scum can just play how they play town n shiz but like NAH that's their meta. Like really?! Ive played games where I don't look at my role PM Day 1 cuz I can set up legitimate reads on players from a towns perspective and then read my role PM and see what I rolled. If I'm scum woohoo set up a nice back bone. If I'm town woohoo NO HARM NO FOUL! And then there's the walrus.
 

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@ #HBC | Laundry #HBC | Laundry this is marshy without having spoken to kev yet

me and kevin both want jtb the most. we also dislike shenani and are feelin ghebs push there. i also didnt care much for joey the few times he could get in here. i know that the majority of our lynchpool being inactive isnt the most impressive or exciting thing but it wouldnt be the first time swf has its scumteam all on the low. i can at least agree to see what joeys replacement offers and i really think your "theres scum but it aint between me/vinyl/joey/jtb" smacks a bit of overthinking. i agree the whole team aint there but its a decent look tho im not as interested in yu and vinyl as the other two right now

i felt like jtb and vinyl goin at each other the way they did early on held something of value. i cant put it into words thatre too elegant but something about that exchange was weird. and check out jtb according to yur reads. hes gone onto soup and is now on you. so that would be 2 innocents hes hopped onto without much regard

heres an exercise for you laundry. do you have any particular hypothesis on how scum would approach that d1 soup wagon? check out that end of d1 votecount and lemme know if the placements of those votes are of interest to you at all
fwiw i wasn't saying scum wasn't between those four slots, simply that i don't think two scum are. it's highly likely that there's scum between vinyl/joey/jtb/vinyl, i just doubt there's two of them and i damn well

that said, i'll go look again at jtb's vote pattern. i kinda read him on the surface with intention of dealing with him later, given that the last time i put effort into giving him a solid read earlier, i was wrong on it and we fought on it for multiple days until i finally realized you were right the entire time (os all-stars).

i'm feeling your scumpool even if i'm not sure i wholly agree with that direction yet. lemme go back and look at jtb's posts again to solidify my stance on him, i definitely don't like shen's sudden flip onto red, and i already mentioned that i don't like joey this game but i don't wanna lunge at a guy quite yet since we have a replacement to grill coming soon

of soup's wagon late d1 (can i count early d2 as well), i definitely didn't like it. i didn't like how ruy started it, baited a good reaction, then decided to leave it alone while the game's inactives and shen jumped at it. i don't like how ruy is now finally on it only to gain support from jtb and joey. i'm not entirely sure what to make of it yet (don't think i can without a scumflip to guide my direction), but i'll go give that another look as well
 

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Damn man that's the thing I hate about relying on meta for things cuz like scum can just play how they play town n shiz but like NAH that's their meta. Like really?! Ive played games where I don't look at my role PM Day 1 cuz I can set up legitimate reads on players from a towns perspective and then read my role PM and see what I rolled. If I'm scum woohoo set up a nice back bone. If I'm town woohoo NO HARM NO FOUL! And then there's the walrus.
If you looked closer, you'd notice that I took no other action than saying it was telling to me. It's like putting a little note in my back pocket as a reminder about that slot.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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as for potato...meh. i can see where you and gheb were coming from when yall went at him but i dunno. he did this off the cuff stream of consciousness style in this other game where i was scum and he was town. it caught him a lot of flak but this ****s similar enough that hes not a priority for me at this very moment. we have him as straight null. yu know that one scumbag on the team you dont really realize til later in the game? itd prolly be him. that said we appreciate your pressuring of him
literally why i'm keeping my eye on him
 

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Damn I kinda wanna stop scum hunting and contributing entirely and just make light hearted jokes frequently to lighten the mood. I'm confirmed townie either way so like not like y'all mofos are gonna lynch me or anything.

So how bout that Sex Robot ehh who remembers that guy?
 

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If you looked closer, you'd notice that I took no other action than saying it was telling to me. It's like putting a little note in my back pocket as a reminder about that slot.
Dawg let a confirmed mofo be toasted n shii ya feel me
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Oh,

/proddoge

Hello. I see washed is here, so this is great.
This computer sucks though.
I'll put up something worthwhile, I promise. c:
no really why do we let him play mafia

this isn't even a question of his personal interest anymore, we know the result of his play every single time
 

#HBC | Laundry

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It's cool this game finally took off in the way it did.

Unvote

I need to think. And Laundry, that phase of mine is far gone. Yes, I was pissed. That's evident enough and I wasn't trying to deny it, however, you're right. I was throwing myself at everyone to try and make things stick. I did what I did and talking to me about it is just a sore reminder of how I handled it poorly. I really wish you got at my more recent posts to be honest but you did do that whole blurb at 5 am in the morning (what are you even doing laundry get some sleep man).
I did read them but they are much less memorable to me than your early ones. I think reading them at 4 in the morning didn't help though.

There's a reason I unvoted, however. You got in a bad spot and you jumped at something stupid. I still have my reservations as I think that's something a man with a guilty conscious would do, but I just see shades of KvK in your play at this point. You were one of my most solid townreads early and that eroded so fast.
 

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I always have a poor beginning in my town games because I find it hard to get my footing (like literally it's just a constant about me sorry) but whatever this is pointless to talk about.

Laundry's catch-up post is good. I want to read him as townie, but **** me sideways if Pawn's actions aren't just dreadful. I know Laundry is going to come in here full-force and tell me how Pawn was stupidTown, but I can't forget the way Pawn handled this whole game. I'm cautious of him for certain, but lynching him now (especially when he's much more willing to give content) isn't the right thing to do.

Laundry, you mostly agree with me on Ruy. Would you be willing to help me drive his lynch today? I know I said earlier that I don't believe he's the play, but that was for the sake of Pawn being a much better one. Who are the your top lynches at the moment?
Honestly I'm not going to address how my predecessor played more than I have. I'm aware he played like **** and have admitted that if I were anyone else, I would agree with his lynch or shot, either or. I'll let my play do its own thing and if I get saddled with a lynch because pawn's a dip**** later on, oh well. I know what I signed up for replacing in.

Considering Ruy, what do you make of Shen's flip onto him? I'm just as concerned about that as I am about Ruy.
 

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Laundry you know I think you're good at the game don't be thinkin imma splooge on your play SON.

Seeeeeeeeeeeex
 

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What makes you think this? I don't agree that the whole team could be comprised there but I damn well feel like at least 2 could be in there What about Vinyl. even strikes you as remotely **** playing town? Did you see my earlier complaints about him? Yes, JTB is a crapshoot, but he's still a player and a player that will need to be read eventually. Give more than just a crapshoot. Tell me if you could lynch him or not because you're not telling me anything as far the direction you'd like to go.
As I told marshy, I meant to say that it's not all in there and I'd be surprised if there's even two in there. I misspoke, I blame it being 5 am when I said it.

I'm going to get to JTB once I'm done reading.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Do you buy the interaction and response Kantplay gave me prior to me asking him why he's playing the way he is, or is it just an excuse?
Don't know, need to see what he's holding back. I don't even know why he's holding it back at this point in the game.
 
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