Time Travelers - Town wins! Time travel mechanics rarely used!

[Reyth]

Scum, Bad, Good, Town

 

[Reyth]

lol

Catch up and post actual content or die!

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Ran: What do you think of Swiss directing the night PRs?

Swiss did this? Ran seems to think so in 504 but where did it happen?

J, why do you assume in 506 that Ran's Reyth read is town?

Generally I have agreed with most of .jpg's reads. I liked his catch on Nabe regarding Nichs first game; this showed a genuine scum hunting attitude.

What is this in reference to? I must be skimming between this and 503, lol.

Ran, what do you think of SK based on more current stuff?

@SK: So your analysis post was deliberately light because you felt it wasn't important to provide details. Well thank you very much! I think you were just too busy chatting in your scum QT to take the time to make a proper analysis post, what do you think of that?

Also, it wasn't that you didn't vote Nich, it was that you over-reached HARD on T-Block with crapologic and did so in the face of a Nich wagon too. I just see it as scum fanning the flames really.

Agreed with the second. The first part though is heavy-handed and I'm not at all suspicious of SK for what seems standard from Kat at least. I think you're taking this for more than it is.

SK for their part is taking this back and forth very evenly.

Reyth has a very interesting persuasive style, we don't see that at all around here. Directly talking to people and trying to pull their votes, very focused and aggressive which is good, if unusual.


Ran defensive of Reyth in 561? Odd since he called Gray/Nich white-knighting when this is clearly white-knighting and Gray's wasn't. Really bizarre even from Ran.

It was from DeGrey's #238.

Can't be, I answered the question in his 238.

Degrey knows better and doesn't white knight.

???

PTSD comes in for a minute to *****, dislike.


Done with the read.

Feeling really good about Reyth from early play, his niggling about wording and phrasing is exactly how I play and 377 could've (should've) come from my mouth. Reyth is taking some things at face value when he shouldn't be but hey. Town read.

After reading up I can understand the VG scum read some people are expressing. Specifically I'm reminded of X1's play with me in Pulp and how he was accused of sheeping. Still haven't seen nearly enough from this slot.

I question **** like Block's 426. You can be persuasive without the hate. I used to do this as scum all the time. Leaning town but I think you should chill a bit.

 

[Xivii]

Catch up and post actual content or die!

o k

 

[Swiss]

Zen can die at the earliest convenience. Vig but don't cop.

 

[Swiss]

That's a tacit admission that if he isn't dead by MyLo, I'm lynching him regardless.

 

[Xivii]

I'm unlynchable bulletproof

deadline is in a week, I'll catch up

 

[Reyth]

Swiss did this? Ran seems to think so in 504 but where did it happen?

This actually happened in Swiss's second post of this game. The rest of the post I agreed with but that was a real hummdinger.

What is this in reference to? I must be skimming between this and 503, lol.

Early on, .jpg caught that you knew that it was Nich's first time playing with SK (knowledge you might of gleaned from a scum QT). This helped to cement an early town read for me on .jpg.

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

@Nabe: Here is where I was talking about before.

As for the NK, just be glad if they don't. Doc stay on the core players.

Here's a more recent one.

Zen can die at the earliest convenience. Vig but don't cop.

Swiss did this? Ran seems to think so in 504 but where did it happen?

J, why do you assume in 506 that Ran's Reyth read is town?

This is the post I assumed from. However I wanted clarification on it.

There are some other posts I wanted to get to. One second please.

 

[Swiss]

Why do people always seem to think PR direction is bad?

Have you seen what happens when some players get PR's?

Jesus.

 

[Reyth]

I didn't mind your last one about the vig on Zen.

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

X1-12's individual post is horrible to look at simply because it his him just mocking people who are putting pressure on him or him throwing out randomish reads.

PLSD can totally die just based off his "intro" posts. Zen's funny to watch post at least and he won't lie to me about providing content soon. Riiiight Zenny-boy?

@Swiss: Can you tell us three scum-reads of yours at the current time? What do you think of Nabe and in specifics Nabe's 643?

 

[Swiss]

If I had two more solid scum reads, I would have given them.

Content on Nabe when I'm not watching a film.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

And do you realize that Reyth has since decided that I'm townie?

Reyth didn't say you're town, he said he's leaving you aside for now. Regardless, I like Reyth's reasoning and I think you made a slip and I think you're scum. Why would I care what Reyth thinks now?

My 155 was a lack of proofreading. I've been doing a lot of posting (and reading) from my mobile phone, you've all seen plenty of cases where I've had to EBWOP. To crucify me for this one post seems odd, since aside from that you haven't pointed out anything I've done wrong.

A lack of proofreading which led to a scumslip? If you had posted an image of your role PM and it said scum, that would be worth a crucifixion in the same way that this is.

There are two dislikes I have displayed in those posts that are totally unrelated to this game. Arrogance, and being blamed for the mess that was FE mafia. The first was basically a note to Zen that I won't be intimidated by his rep (ESPECIALLY after FE), and that he'd better actually have done some good scumhunting and have an actual case. The second didn't really have that much of a point in the context of this game, aside from being related to my reputation as a mafia player. I will NOT be blamed for that game, there was no coherent case against me.

Cool, take it to social thread. In this game, we're having a discussion not about blaming you, but about how you'd have made an easy mislynch in FE. The shot at Zen was ridiculous (was he even trying to intimidate you?) and the post from X1 was backing up my opinion re: the mislynch thing which has nothing to do with blame and everything to do with your play specifically.

Anyway Nabe, I'm curious. Why are you going after me now? The timing doesn't make much sense. Reyth (aside from my #155) hasn't really brought up anything new against me, and before that you seemed rather neutral on me vs T-block (and you JUST said that up until now you'd have agreed with X1 about me-town). And do you really have NO other important reads at this stage of the game? Not to mention as a pressure vote this makes 0 sense, since the wagon on me is basically gone at this point. So it must be real... but does that ONE post really change your read that much? You yourself mentioned that my explanation was obviously what I intended to post, and I've obviously not done much proofreading just by glancing at the number of times I've had to EBWOP or double post because I forgot something.

I'm going after you because I read up and saw that you'd dropped a scumslip. How is that unclear? Reyth also had a good read on you that I took to heart, and I decided to ignore the meta that would suggest that you're not scum but just town playing poorly. Prior to my read I was unsure, and now I'm not. Re: other scumreads, I have SK scum and July as a lean. Which is unimportant and doesn't detract from the validity of anything I have to say about you.

Vote: Nich

 

[Xivii]

Correct. and im unlynchable bulletproof

@J

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

Sheesh Swissy.

Aight, I'll leave ya be for now.

*live-topic'd*

Okay that's scary cuz I was about to ask you, Nabe, who you were going to vote. *reading now*

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

Correct. and im unlynchable bulletproof

@J

Kay. Thank you. And no you aren't cuz I'd have to CC you then.

 

[Reyth]

reyth didn't say you're town, he said he's leaving you aside for now.

qft.......

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe I saw afterwards

**** u

I realized after the fact. Catch up please.

Early on, .jpg caught that you knew that it was Nich's first time playing with SK (knowledge you might of gleaned from a scum QT). This helped to cement an early town read for me on .jpg.

Ah.

Why do people always seem to think PR direction is bad?

Have you seen what happens when some players get PR's?

Jesus.

It's not at all, and not even badtown in D1. Direct away.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

July, vote Nich with me.
July, Watson y/n?

 

[Reyth]

I mean saying that you will get Doc protected (and thus will live) and that Player X will be copped, and that player X will be the NK. I mean it was all a little too much for me all in one post there...

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

Nabe, even after reading that post. I can't say I am sold on Nichy-boy being scum. However I saw something I wanted to ask.

SKscum read, can you go into that a bit more and show where you are getting that vibe personally?

 

[Reyth]

Nabe I trust your reads. After 400 I really started to believe Nich was just playing bad early. Your post rekindles my initial suspicions. You know how the easy lynch D1 usually ends up town though and post 400 just basically scared me.

 

[T-block]

ilu Nabe

Reyth, restate for me why you dropped the Nich case? Just a gut thing, right?

 

[Reyth]

I read #400 and it screamed to me "newb-town sincerely played bad, your case is whey over exaggerated and sucks".

 

[Reyth]

I mean like my whole case was about RVS and I started to get his "ewwww..." feeling.

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

TB, what's your opinion on Nabe/Swissy/July?

What do you think of July's case on DeGray?
What do you think of Nabe's rekindle of NichScum case?

(also where's your vote so I don't have to find the vote count? ^^")

 

[Reyth]

Look, Nich made actual scum slips. But they could be newb slips too. #400 made me think they were newb slips.

I don't know what else to call the bad play exhibited by Nich other than "newb" sorry. I mean I don't like the term "VI".

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe, even after reading that post. I can't say I am sold on Nichy-boy being scum.

Is 155 a scumslip? What do you think?

SKscum read, can you go into that a bit more and show where you are getting that vibe personally?

Early play where he wouldn't back away from a T-block vote despite my telling him how and why his evidence was garbage, then holding onto that T-block vote because he found different evidence for it when I might expect town to look in new directions at least a little. Since then they've posted sparsely. As I said, I do think they handled the argument with Reyth very evenly which is definite town points. They're not the scum read that Nich is, but a second for sure even without the slip.

 

[Reyth]

See, I see major hydra cog-dis, scum flailing on how they handled it. First off they start with we're hydra fused our reads are as one. By the time they are through, its "I'm the keyboard jockey head and my other head does analysis -- we're not scum see?". Not digging that at all.

 

[T-block]

reyth, your whole case is based on rvs? o.o no it isn't...

vote's on nich atm, kk

love nabe now that he's doing stuff
swiss i'm looking more into. he's done some things that are off, but i don't know how to take them because of his radically different playstyle. his contradiction wrt nich for one (which he still hasn't responded to)
july is eh... i don't like her nearly as much as i would expect to at this point in the game. i don't think any worse of her for her case on DG, since it's an easy case to make, but i'm watching how she proceeds with it. i think her interaction with ran is weird, and i think it's odd that she keeps bringing up the DG/Nich interaction

 

[Reyth]

Well technically we were out of RVS when it all happened but I mean it was all about that and nothing else and 400 kind of got me to realize that.

But Nich HAS made scum slips and COULD be scum for them.

 

[Reyth]

I'm just thinking there is a greater chance he is newb-town.

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

Look, Nich made actual scum slips. But they could be newb slips too. #400 made me think they were newb slips.

I don't know what else to call the bad play exhibited by Nich other than "newb" sorry. I mean I don't like the term "VI".

I'm just pointing this out even though I think someone already did. Nichy's not a newbie by any means of the word.

Is 155 a scumslip? What do you think?

This is the post correct? I actually don't know what to think of it. I don't see a scum-slip from a face-value or an analytical standpoint. Overall, I think it's a null-telling post. Is there something I am supposed to see here?

I could see a bit of the agonizing towards TB as a scum-tell but a slip?

Early play where he wouldn't back away from a T-block vote despite my telling him how and why his evidence was garbage, then holding onto that T-block vote because he found different evidence for it when I might expect town to look in new directions at least a little. Since then they've posted sparsely. As I said, I do think they handled the argument with Reyth very evenly which is definite town points. They're not the scum read that Nich is, but a second for sure even without the slip.

Hmm interesting. Alright I see what you are getting at. So tell me, what did you think of the Kat side's post?

 

[Reyth]

And my SK reads are throughout the whole game, not just the beginning.

 

[Kawaii Kangaroo]

So TB, like this? (correct me if wrong)

Nabe=town
Swiss=Null
July=Null-leaning scum

Who would you think be your second scum-pick then after Nichy? What's your opinion on PLSD's entrance?

Also I didn't really get your opinion on what you think of the case surrounding DeGray whether it being credible/good so can I get that as well please? ^^

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

See, I see major hydra cog-dis, scum flailing on how they handled it. First off they start with we're hydra fused our reads are as one. By the time they are through, its "I'm the keyboard jockey head and my other head does analysis -- we're not scum see?". Not digging that at all.

Maybe. I mostly believe them in that vein, but scum could legitimately have hydra johns and still be scum. I do think that you need to take a step back and reevaluate.

love nabe now that he's doing stuff

Don't do this, no one can read you from this. Give me an earnest evaluation when you have the time or material to do so, this isn't a practical read.

This is the post correct? I actually don't know what to think of it. I don't see a scum-slip from a face-value or an analytical standpoint. Overall, I think it's a null-telling post. Is there something I am supposed to see here?

I could see a bit of the agonizing towards TB as a scum-tell but a slip?

Check out Rethy's explanation @377 and the posts before that (look for red text).
(Rethy is a typo obv but I like how it looks.)

Hmm interesting. Alright I see what you are getting at. So tell me, what did you think of the Kat side's post?

One sec.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Reyth didn't say you're town, he said he's leaving you aside for now. Regardless, I like Reyth's reasoning and I think you made a slip and I think you're scum. Why would I care what Reyth thinks now?

Check Reyth's recent posts, in one of them he just said there was a greater chance of me being "newb town" then scum. Why would you care? I wouldn't care about the opinion itself (aside from the vote), but the REASONING behind the opinion is important.

A lack of proofreading which led to a scumslip? If you had posted an image of your role PM and it said scum, that would be worth a crucifixion in the same way that this is.

Ah, no. You said it yourself that it was obvious what I intended to post. Therefore, that was simply a lack of proofreading, REGARDLESS of alignment. (Look at it this way. If I had proofread my post instead of rapid-firing it like always, would that sentence still be in there?)

Cool, take it to social thread. In this game, we're having a discussion not about blaming you, but about how you'd have made an easy mislynch in FE. The shot at Zen was ridiculous (was he even trying to intimidate you?) and the post from X1 was backing up my opinion re: the mislynch thing which has nothing to do with blame and everything to do with your play specifically.

One question. Why. Do. You. Care. Yes, they're tangential to the thread, but I've done plenty of contributing (don't even TRY to deny that), so how does a couple comments related to a past game affect your read on me?

I'm going after you because I read up and saw that you'd dropped a scumslip. How is that unclear? Reyth also had a good read on you that I took to heart, and I decided to ignore the meta that would suggest that you're not scum but just town playing poorly. Prior to my read I was unsure, and now I'm not. Re: other scumreads, I have SK scum and July as a lean. Which is unimportant and doesn't detract from the validity of anything I have to say about you.

Vote: Nich

What's unclear is why you're being so thick-headed. That is to mean, why you're ignoring the possibility it was an honest mistake (because you said it yourself, it's quite obvious what the intent behind the post was), and immediately assuming it's scum. If you want a parallel to this case, check out Mario Kart Mafia where I basically did the exact same thing to OS D1. (He made a similar "slip" regarding his role PM and the game mechanics, I called him on it and lynched him. He was town.)

And yes, your other reads are important, as I find it highly suspicious that you've gone through catching up on half the game and have no new important read changes except on me. And the one read change on me is based on all of one post. This bears repeating.

Out of half the game which you've caught up on, only ONE post has changed your mind about ANY scum reads.

I know you'll call it OMGUS, but I don't care, town-Nabe isn't this stupid.

Unvote, Vote: Nabe

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Oh 623.
It's a null post, reads like Kata. There's nothing about it one way or the other aside from how the last paragraph hurts the eyes.

 

[Xivii]

Still reading, but in the meantime I'll post some hydra notes:

Spoiler

Zen: yo
Zen: you been reading?
Buddha: nah just skimmed a bit
Buddha: games moving fast
Zen: yeh
Zen: I'm only to about post #200
Zen: So far I like Nabe. Nich I'm unsure of. Don't like SoupKat. Ran is ok for now, but I didn't like his #194. That's pretty much it.
Zen: Oh and t-block null.
Buddha: Hmm
Zen: So watchu up to?
Buddha: Not much, just been watchin porn.
Zen: lmao xD
Zen: You would
Buddha: all dei erry dei
Buddha: Let me take a look at that Ran post, I can read Ran really well.
Zen: kk
Buddha: hmm what don't you like about it?
Zen: Well it was in response to July's post before. She had just posted pretty much everything he was asking her about. Seemed fake, like he was just trying to interact with her or something.
Buddha: hmm
Buddha: yeah I can see what you're saying.
Buddha: idk I have to look at it more when I catch up.
Zen: kk
Buddha: what do you think about posting our hydra logs?
Zen: idk I don't really like doing it, but I guess since OS is allowing it we may as well but I really don't like doing it.
Buddha: yeah
Buddha: posting them now