Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Kotor]

 

[Zantetsugun]

 

[Hong]

wait, we can't, we aren't elephants...

Speak for yourself.

= Fal Koopa (no space)

 

[ThunderSageNun]

Speak for yourself.

= Fal Koopa (no space)

= Red Feather (no space)

 

[Kenith]

I leave for only a few hours and find discussion of people in this thread wanting to have my kids.
What even.

 

[FalKoopa]

= Red Feather (no space)

Like = Non Specific Guy/Hokori (no space)

 

[Kenith]

= :4crusheddreams:

 

[Hong]

View attachment 54406 = :4crusheddreams:

Could have been worse.

Could have been Ridley.

He's literally beaten into submission and made into your *****.

And he even has his own stock icon to show who owns him.

Not to mention how badly he got slammed for being an awful idea by Sakurai after-the-fact.

RIPley

 

[FalKoopa]

Could have been worse.

Could have been Ridley.

He's literally beaten into submission and made into your *****.

And he even has his own stock icon to show who owns him.

Not to mention how badly he got slammed for being an awful idea by Sakurai after-the-fact.

RIPley

And his emote is still not on the site. What could be worse.

 

[Kenith]

I would have used my Ghirahim icon but I don't even have it anymore.
You can never steal this from me though:

I mean...why would you want to?

 

[redfeatherraven]

can't we all hold trunks and get along?

wait, we can't, we aren't elephants...

Paging @ Shaymikyu . The elephant has landed.

= Red Feather (no space)

= Nun Chuck (no space)

 

[ThunderSageNun]

Like = Non Specific Guy/Hokori (no space)

= Unknown Hero (no space)

Could have been worse.

Could have been Ridley.

He's literally beaten into submission and made into your *****.

And he even has his own stock icon to show who owns him.

Not to mention how badly he got slammed for being an awful idea by Sakurai after-the-fact.

RIPley

= Ridley In Smash (no space)

And his emote is still not on the site. What could be worse.

 

[AustarusIV]

Could have been worse.

Could have been Ridley.

He's literally beaten into submission and made into your *****.

And he even has his own stock icon to show who owns him.

Not to mention how badly he got slammed for being an awful idea by Sakurai after-the-fact.

RIPley

That was especially sad news indeed, considering that he was outdone by a fourteen-year-old in Project M as part of a hobby.

 

[Shaymikyu]

I have been summone-

can't we all hold trunks and get along?

wait, we can't, we aren't elephants...

HNNNNG SO CUTE.

 

[Hong]

I would have used my Ghirahim icon but I don't even have it anymore.
You can never steal this from me though:

View attachment 54407

I mean...why would you want to?

Actually that one already belongs to Syrek.

= Sy Rekt (no space)

 

[Zantetsugun]

Could have been worse.

Could have been Ridley.

He's literally beaten into submission and made into your *****.

And he even has his own stock icon to show who owns him.

Not to mention how badly he got slammed for being an awful idea by Sakurai after-the-fact.

RIPley

That was especially sad news indeed, considering that he was outdone by a fourteen-year-old in Project M as part of a hobby.

Poor Ridley. Guy can't catch a break. Meanwhile Sakurai strokes his invisible goatee menacingly as he adds Dark Pit to the roster. Seriously though Sakurai's Kid Icarus bias is legendary. Over half the enemies in Smash Run are from Uprising. We get it already man! You really like KI:U because you worked on it. Get over yourself. Whew, sorry bout that! Rant concluded.

But srius bzness, give Ridley a chance. Just look at this lovable oaf!

 

[Baskerville]

Hopefully Sakurai reconsiders his opinion on Ridley and tries next time. The dragon is way overdue.

Could have been worse.

Could have been Ridley.

He's literally beaten into submission and made into your *****.

And he even has his own stock icon to show who owns him.

Not to mention how badly he got slammed for being an awful idea by Sakurai after-the-fact.

RIPley

And how could we forget "Meta Ridley".

 

[LIQUID12A]

I wonder whose bright idea was it to call Ridley on purple drug power up mode "Meta Ridley".

You might as well call it "Clone Ridley geeked on speed."

 

[FalKoopa]

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?

*Hides*

 

[Baskerville]

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?

*Hides*

In all seriousness, it's fine.

 

[Kenith]

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?
*Hides*

No.
I'm pretty sure this entire community is completely polarized on Ridley. You have nothing to be afraid of.
I honestly never want to hear about him again. Whether that means he gets in or support for him drops off the face of the Earth forever, I don't care. I'm just so sick of hearing that name.

 

[False Sense]

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?

*Hides*

I may fall under that category.

Personally, I have no attachment to Ridley or the Metroid series as a whole, though I did support his inclusion, mostly because I thought he and his numerous fans deserved it.

 

[ThunderSageNun]

= Austarus IV (no space)
= Forever Bottom Tier (no space)
I'll stop now...I hope.

 

[AustarusIV]

I'm content with that Bagan mod TBH. He did a fine job on Ridley, more than I could ever say for what Sakurai did to him, and helped bring peace to my mind regarding that matter.

Now I'm more concerned about Black Mage as a playable character.

 

[IAmMetaKnight]

Hey gaiz. I'm back from an unannounced leave of absence.

*New info on FE If*

Yay!

*Face rubbing*

...

Spoiler

 

[Hong]

Poor Ridley. Guy can't catch a break. Meanwhile Sakurai strokes his invisible goatee menacingly as he adds Dark Pit to the roster. Seriously though Sakurai's Kid Icarus bias is legendary. Over half the enemies in Smash Run are from Uprising. We get it already man! You really like KI:U because you worked on it. Get over yourself. Whew, sorry bout that! Rant concluded.

I get that clones take very little work to add. I get that it was easier to port over KI assets into Smash. I get that.

... But for a guy who was afraid to add King Dedede and Meta Knight in fear of coming across biased (read: two characters people actually WANTED), I can't help but blame a lack of humility, discipline, and empathy. The whole "clones take no work to add" thing rebukes the argument that they didn't take up any "slots", but it doesn't change the fact that they got special treatment that a number of other characters didn't. Unless you want to make Alph unique, start throwing in quick clones like Mach Rider, and all that stuff, you can't just make random exceptions.

Doesn't help that he, ironicly, calls the fan's childish for criticizing his decision but then does the metaphorical equivalent of plugging his ears and singing "I'm not listening!". Like seriously; that is one of the worst things anyone in the game industry can do, ever. If Sakurai was anyone but Sakurai with his seniority status and legion of drones, swiftly dismissing and insulting your fans would be a complete PR disaster. Even bigger and better game designers have gotten into a lot worse messes over littler things than that.

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?

*Hides*

I don't care about him, nor do I want him, and I think Sakurai's diagnosis is 100% reasonable.

Doesn't mean I hate Ridley or anything crazy like that. "Metroid games are fun." is about as far as I go with appreciation for him.

Nothing wrong with an unpopular opinion. Anyone who would judge you negatively over that is no one worth your time.

 

[Kotor]

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?

*Hides*

I'm neutral towards him. If he's included, it gives me another character to try out or beat up. If he's not, oh well.

I feel like the only way he could get in is if he appears in a new Metroid game and he's redesigned in such a way that he could fit in the Smash universe.

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

Courtesy of Tumblrlrlrlrlrllrlr

 

[Baskerville]

I get that clones take very little work to add. I get that it was easier to port over KI assets into Smash. I get that.

... But for a guy who was afraid to add King Dedede and Meta Knight in fear of coming across biased (read: two characters people actually WANTED), I can't help but blame a lack of humility, discipline, and empathy. The whole "clones take no work to add" thing rebukes the argument that they didn't take up any "slots", but it doesn't change the fact that they got special treatment that a number of other characters didn't. Unless you want to make Alph unique, start throwing in quick clones like Mach Rider, and all that stuff, you can't just make random exceptions.

Doesn't help that he, ironicly, calls the fan's childish for criticizing his decision but then does the metaphorical equivalent of plugging his ears and singing "I'm not listening!". Like seriously; that is one of the worst things anyone in the game industry can do, ever. If Sakurai was anyone but Sakurai with his seniority status and legion of drones, swiftly dismissing and insulting your fans would be a complete PR disaster. Even bigger and better game designers have gotten into a lot worse messes over littler things than that.
I don't care about him, nor do I want him, and I think Sakurai's diagnosis is 100% reasonable.

Doesn't mean I hate Ridley or anything crazy like that. "Metroid games are fun." is about as far as I go with appreciation for him.

Nothing wrong with an unpopular opinion. Anyone who would judge you negatively over that is no one worth your time.

To be honest, I actually want the next game in the series to be handled by someone else. And no, it isn't because character x isn't in this game but character y is, it's moreso the decisions regarding game mechanics, modes and character balance Sakurai has made that bothers me a lot.

 

[FalKoopa]

I may fall under that category.

Personally, I have no attachment to Ridley or the Metroid series as a whole, though I did support his inclusion, mostly because I thought he and his numerous fans deserved it.

This is how I feel about him as well.

Though I agree about the Sakurai bias. Someone else needs to be in the role of the Director, given the ludicrous Kid Icarus bias, although he also outdid himself in terms of the movesets made, so I want him to stick around as an ideas guy.

 

[Kenith]

To be honest, I actually want the next game in the series to be handled by someone else. And no, it isn't because character x isn't in this game but character y is, it's moreso the decisions regarding game mechanics, modes and character balance Sakurai has made that bothers me a lot.

I agree. I wanted Classic Mode to = Arcade Mode, Sakurai went the opposite direction but still made it mandatory to beat it with every character to clear Challenges.
I wanted the game to be faster in general. I'm not even a competitive player, Melee was just the most fun. Smash Tour should not even exist, it was a terrible idea that never should have gotten past the concept stage. Both online modes are also a mess that don't even allow the use of every character.

Etc.

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

I don't really mind the "bias" when it comes to the roster. I'm sure anybody working on a Smash Bros game (or any crossover game) would have some sort of bias towards one or more franchises anyway.

I do wish that Classic Mode resembled the earlier modes rather than 8-Player Smash: Arcade Edition though. I also hope that if there's a new person heading Smash, they would add some "advanced techniques", but not on the level as Melee. Online modes should have matchmaking and the ability to decide on "legal" stages via voting instead of omega stages.

And yes, Smash Tour is terrible.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Am I the only one here who doesn't care much about Ridley (although I do sympathise with his fans)?

*Hides*

Even being the big Metroid fan that I am, I'm neutral to Ridley. I really just want Metroid to get another playable character in Smash, Ridley or not.

If that happened I would be flat out done with speculation, but given the series' current hiatus I doubt it's happening(though there's certainly no harm in trying).

 

[Hong]

To be honest, I actually want the next game in the series to be handled by someone else. And no, it isn't because character x isn't in this game but character y is, it's moreso the decisions regarding game mechanics, modes and character balance Sakurai has made that bothers me a lot.

There's a reason why big game projects have a lead creative director that is separate from the lead game designer.

Sakurai is great in both areas... that is being great at making games, as well as being able to come up with creative ideas and solutions to problems. But not even like a superhuman godly immortal deity of game design, given a project of this scope, can hope to handle so much by themselves. Even on a small scale, I can vouch for the fact that being a writer, designer, programmer, concept artist, and sound designer at once, in addition to worrying about talent scouting, promotion, and everything else, is a complete nightmare at even a small scale. It doesn't help that he's immensely narcissistic and very self-absorbed... wanting very much to handle so much of the work himself.

It's commendable, but it's also stupid and incredibly inefficient. I think many people would agree that he should be around for his creative mind, understanding of Nintendo history, and immense wealth of experience... But for the good of himself and the fans, he should just step away as lead director. There are so many great minds out there who can, on a functional level, make the game much more fun and appealing... Which is saying a lot given how revered the series is.

 

[Champ Gold]

I don't really mind the "bias" when it comes to the roster. I'm sure anybody working on a Smash Bros game (or any crossover game) would have some sort of bias towards one or more franchises anyway.

I do wish that Classic Mode resembled the earlier modes rather than 8-Player Smash: Arcade Edition. I also hope that if there's a new person heading Smash, they would add some "advanced techniques", but not on the level as Melee. Online modes should have matchmaking and the ability to decide on "legal" stages via voting instead of omega stages.

And yes, Smash Tour is terrible.

What I've played of Classic mode, I like it having an 8-player feature. I just feel like it should be done better. Like team battles and Character teams having 8 player smash.

Plus I don't care about bias as long as different franchises don't get shafted hard with content.

Besides I'll take Kirby, Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem bias over Pokemon or the level of Mother bias Sakurai gave the series since Melee.

 

[Kenith]

I might be the only one but I hate even the idea of 8-player Smash and hope it doesn't come back next time.
It's just...a mess. I don't even have 8 controllers.
Or friends. It's as if Nintendo wants to rub in that I have no friends to play Smash offline with.

 

[redfeatherraven]

So unless there's another @Chapter Serf at level 4 that I'm not aware of, I just went several rounds with him in Splatoon.

Keep shootin, homie.

 

[Matsushi]

I think the idea of 8-player Smash is convenient for parties and such, but yeah, it's just really messy for me and the one time I did play it, I was losing myself constantly with all the items and characters. Can't say it wasn't fun, just... chaotic to say the least. And I don't have 8 friends either, well, 8 who are willing to play Smash anyway.

 

[Baskerville]

There's a reason why big game projects have a lead creative director that is separate from the lead game designer.

Sakurai is great in both areas... that is being great at making games, as well as being able to come up with creative ideas and solutions to problems. But not even like a superhuman godly immortal deity of game design, given a project of this scope, can hope to handle so much by themselves. Even on a small scale, I can vouch for the fact that being a writer, designer, programmer, concept artist, and sound designer at once, in addition to worrying about talent scouting, promotion, and everything else, is a complete nightmare at even a small scale. It doesn't help that he's immensely narcissistic and very self-absorbed... wanting very much to handle so much of the work himself.

It's commendable, but it's also stupid and incredibly inefficient. I think many people would agree that he should be around for his creative mind, understanding of Nintendo history, and immense wealth of experience... But for the good of himself and the fans, he should just step away as lead director. There are so many great minds out there who can, on a functional level, make the game much more fun and appealing... Which is saying a lot given how revered the series is.

Especially in the online department where Smash has so much potential. When you compare it to other online fighters, the online experience in Smash is pretty lackluster, especially if you're playing against random people. Not having something like lobbies and custom rules outside of friends holds it back. At least Tournament Mode is finally being made into an online mode, which I hope goes well.

 

[Jae]

I might be the only one but I hate even the idea of 8-player Smash and hope it doesn't come back next time.
It's just...a mess. I don't even have 8 controllers.
Or friends. It's as if Nintendo wants to rub in that I have no friends to play Smash offline with.

Ironically, when I'm with relatives, we always go for regular 4P instead of the 8P Mode, it's too hectic IMO

I use 8P just to do stupid things at most, rather play for enjoyment