Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Champ Gold]

I'm on the highway to HFIL.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Ugh, why am I having problems connecting? I was playing For Glory perfectly fine earlier... -__-

Cross country internet hates you.

 

[Zantetsugun]

I'M BACK! We lost power for about an hour here. Turns out it was a huge thing where some 1600 homes/customers lost power. Good thing it happened during the day so it could get fixed quickly.

 

[RadiantTactician]

@XenoBrawler610 was that you trying to join? I wasn't familiar with that Mii name, so I'm not sure. D:

 

[draydawg2020]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

 

[Coolpool2]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

I don't think Robin has any guaranteed combos but 9 times out of ten arc fire-> Fair works.

 

[Deleted member]

@XenoBrawler610 was that you trying to join? I wasn't familiar with that Mii name, so I'm not sure. D:

Oh no, I am not online right now. LOL

My Mii has a very silly face and my name is Xeno B610.

 

[Moydow]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

Arcfire -> almost anything
Arcthunder -> almost anything
Arcfire -> Arcfire at low percents

 

[Mr. Johan]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

Dtilt -> Dash Grab at low percents.
Sourspot Levin Uair -> Sweetspot Levin Bair
Sourspot Levin Bair -> Sweetspot Levin Bair
Z-drop Tome -> Levin Dair
Aerial Smash Down Throw Tome -> Levin Bair/Uair
Aerial Down Throw Tome -> Nosferatu
Footstool -> Z-drop Tome -> Footstool -> Elwind Spike
Sourspot Levin Fair -> Rapid Jab at low percents.

 

[Syrek]

Welp.....I got royally owned by RadiantTactician . I did win one match though. Clearly, I have a great deal of training that I need to do. It didn't help that I was playing on the Gamepad and kept backslashing off the edge, but oh well.

Good games, m'lady. You were indeed a radiant opponent and fun one at that. Thanks for putting up with my mediocrity. >w<;;

 

[RadiantTactician]

Welp.....I got royally owned by RadiantTactician . I did win one match though. Clearly, I have a great deal of training that I need to do. It didn't help that I was playing on the Gamepad and kept backslashing off the edge, but oh well.

Good games, m'lady. You were indeed a radiant opponent and fun one at that. Thanks for putting up with my mediocrity. >w<;;

Aha, I was wondering what was that about. xD Thanks for the fun matches!

 

[LIQUID12A]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

 

[Deleted member]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

Is Charizard really that bad?
He can't be worse than Mii Swordfighter.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Is Charizard really that bad?
He can't be worse than Mii Swordfighter.

Ask Reddit, not me.

 

[Zantetsugun]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

Dat B+ Greninja though! ALL HAIL THE NINJA FROG!

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

I don't mean to be pessimistic but reddit is kinda...iffy. This tier list looks ok though; I don't see any major flaws
RIP ZELDA :^(

 

[LIQUID12A]

I don't see any major flaws
RIP ZELDA :^(

Look on the bright side.

She's not in Charizard's spot.

 

[Moydow]

That list doesn't look too bad. Not sure I agree with Lucina being so far below Marth though. Below him, certainly, but not to the extent that list says.

 

[Mr. Johan]

I don't believe the Yoshi and Tink hype. But that's just me.

 

[Chapter Serf]

High Morale Icy Big Poes are worse.

They take more abuse than should be necessary, and their auto-combo breaker move they have and teleport spam only serve to piss you off and waste your time. I'll gladly take on Lizalfos and Dinofols over these ****ers, because I know they won't break the game, Agitha Level 3 mission nonwithstanding.

Even High Morale Icy Big Poes give you weak point gauges. The only thing more stingy with the weak point gauges than Lizalfos and Dinofols is Zant.

Zant's is just plain stupid though. You basically have to eat his strongs and cause him to overdo it in the same manner you can accidentally overdo it. If you dodge for example (which is what logic dictates) he stops his attack or maybe carries it on for a split second to kill that poor soldier that was right next to you. But if you sit there and eat it, than he'll eventually flub it and give you a weak point gauge.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Look on the bright side.

She's not in Charizard's spot.

But she's been close to it in every single official game
R I P Z E L D A W F U L

 

[draydawg2020]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

lets go pika! and i think that diddy should be moved down a bit. hes still good but i dont think A+and i agree with robins placement. but tiers mean nothing so its ok.

 

[LIQUID12A]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

Dtilt -> Dash Grab at low percents.
Sourspot Levin Uair -> Sweetspot Levin Bair
Sourspot Levin Bair -> Sweetspot Levin Bair
Z-drop Tome -> Levin Dair
Aerial Smash Down Throw Tome -> Levin Bair/Uair
Aerial Down Throw Tome -> Nosferatu
Footstool -> Z-drop Tome -> Footstool -> Elwind Spike
Sourspot Levin Fair -> Rapid Jab at low percents.

lets go pika! and i think that diddy should be moved down a bit. hes still good but i dont think A+and i agree with robins placement. but tiers mean nothing so its ok.

Diddy is still good, mind you. Not the monster he was before, but still good enough for A+ rank.

 

[Moydow]

But she's been close to it in every single official game
R I P Z E L D A W F U L

I guess you could say...
the elevator takes you up...
but it doesn't quite go to the top floor.

I'll show myself out.

 

[draydawg2020]

Diddy is still good, mind you. Not the monster he was before, but still good enough for A+ rank.

i know he is still good and i messed up what i said. i just think he shouldnt be above the other A+'s. but he is still A+. just not high A+.

 

[LousyTactician]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

Heh, Pit is the closest I use when it comes to higher tiered characters.

 

[RadiantTactician]

Huh, I didn't think my highest-tiered character would be Mii Brawler; not that I really care, mind you, but I think it's hilarious because all I use is Petch.

 

[IAmMetaKnight]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

Screw all those people who said Meta Knight sucks in Smash 4. He has more potential for some unpredictable combos than most other characters by my experience.

Also fought my share of good Sheiks in FG. She's pretty darn good, but I wouldn't say she's deserving of the S tier. (thank God there's no SS tier this time around though... )


On another note, I just found out that Laura Bailey also voiced Lust in FMA. I will never think of Lucina the same way again...

 

[Wintropy]

Needs customs.

:3

 

[Chapter Serf]

Robin in B- honestly doesn't sound so bad.

Poor Charizard, though.

stealth rock is in smash lol

I think Lucario is a little low. Rage + Aura is a very, very scary thing, and against Shiek, who has trouble killing even at high percentages, that's going to pay BIG dividends.
In regards to Robin, I think that's low as well. Robin can kill really well. Robin has a laundry list of good solid killy things.

 

[Wintropy]

I think Lucario is a little low. Rage + Aura is a scary, scary thing, and against Shiek, who has trouble killing even at high percentages, that's going to pay BIG dividends.
In regards to Robin, I think that's low as well. Robin can kill really well. Robin has a laundry list of good solid killy things.

Thing with Luca is that his efficacy is inversely proportionate to his endurance: the stronger he is, the easier he is to kill. He's a glass cannon that becomes glassier the more cannonier he becomes.

I seriously think that a tier list without customs taken into consideration is a tier list that doesn't take into account the roster's full potential. Try playing custom Palutena or Ganondorf and tell me they aren't decidedly more terrifying than default.

 

[draydawg2020]

hey would anyone happen to have a picture of the goldish girl robin with a transparent backround?

 

[Moydow]

hey would anyone happen to have a picture of the goldish girl robin with a transparent backround?

Try playing custom Palutena [...] and tell me [she isn't] decidedly more terrifying than default.

...yeah.

 

[Tacticulbacon]

what are some guaranteed robin combos?

arcfire -> arcfire -> arcfire-> arcfire-> arcfire-> arcfire-> throw arcfire tome usually works for me.

EDIT: Upon closer inspection, arcfire spam does not appear to be a guaranteed combo.

Source: my win/loss ratio in for glory

 

[IAmMetaKnight]

arcfire -> arcfire -> arcfire-> arcfire-> arcfire-> arcfire-> throw arcfire tome usually works for me.

EDIT: Upon closer inspection, arcfire spam does not appear to be a guaranteed combo.

Source: my win/loss ratio in for glory

Robin's spam Arcfire tactic isn't as effective as some of his other combos...

 

[Moydow]

You really don't want to spam Arcfire. It's your best move for spacing out your opponent and keeping control of the stage, and once it's gone, you've got a far harder job of keeping your opponent off your back.

Upon closer inspection, arcfire spam does not appear to be a guaranteed combo.

It isn't. You can string two together early on, but trying any more past that is just wasting your already-limited uses.

 

[IAmMetaKnight]

You really don't want to spam Arcfire. It's your best move for spacing out your opponent and keeping control of the stage, and once it's gone, you've got a far harder job of keeping your opponent off your back.


It isn't. You can string two together early on, but trying any more past that is just wasting your already-limited uses.

Finally. Someone who gets it. Pretty much every Robin player I've ever met online goes all-out Arcfire spamming. They usually conclude with a well-timed book throw (which is usually moderately predictable). It's not a very effective tactic at all - not while Robin has so much potential in some of his other combos. A grab + downthrow at moderate to high percentages spells doom for characters with poor overhead aerial recoveries; once you get such characters to a high enough percentage, it's all over. Even Mewtwo with his epic aerials is usually gone with one fell swoop of LS-Uair.

Regarding his low-ish position on the tier-list, I suppose something worthy to note is that ease-of-use is oft taken into consideration in tier-lists. I know there are some high-tier characters that have been labeled hard to use, but out of any character who's been given such a label, Robin is most definitely the hardest to master. I'd say he's the only character on the roster whom such a label can be taken into consideration for, obviously because he's beyond doubt the most tactic-based character in the game.

As for Meta Knight, I suppose I was the only player who took Meta Knight's buffed specials into consideration. I think he's nowhere near as easy to use as he was in Brawl this time around. But people don't tend to take his strategic potential seriously enough IMO. His Dimensional Cape is not only powerful enough to be worth the risk of using it in Smash 4, but (it could just be me on this one) I also believe that the amount of frames it's vulnerable for have been reduced. I rarely see people use this on FG despite it acting essentially as a counter-type move. A properly-timed and well-aimed Dimensional Cape can be an extremely deadly counter-attack against moves like Falcon Kick or Boost Kick. Drill Rush seems to have been buffed (ever slightly) as well. But I suppose his most effective KO move in Brawl, Shuttle Loop, has been buffed the most (in terms of attack power/potential KOs of course). It's one of the most effective ceiling KO moves in the game by my experience - I've KOed some of the heaviest characters in the game with it at reasonably low percentages. A lot of people still consider Meta Knight a rush-down-ish speedster, but his diverse specials make him a largely strategic character, at least in my hands.

And that's why I'm totally against his place on the tier list. He can kick some serious booty. Same as good ole' Rabins, people just need to discover all his strategic potential.

 

[Raziek]

How in the world do people think Shulk is a B+ character?

 

[Chapter Serf]

How in the world do people think Shulk is a B+ character?

It's reddit.

I wouldn't exactly call it a reliable source.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Robins, has there been any research into using up equipment and ejecting it to get out of combos or to cover options? I've never seen any Robin do it, but it seems very interesting and useful