Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[False Sense]

As much as i love Robin, i can't say she is the only reason i would've picked up this game, i guess i just don't get the negativity towards this game sometimes, i'm aware it has flaws and could have been better, but for what we got it's still an impressive game.

I would have bought the game regardless of what characters got in; it's still Smash. While there's definitely characters I wish got in, I'm very pleased with the ones we did get, as well as everything else the game has to offer.

 

[LIQUID12A]

As much as i love Robin, i can't say she is the only reason i would've picked up this game, i guess i just don't get the negativity towards this game sometimes, i'm aware it has flaws and could have been better, but for what we got it's still an impressive game.

A cut Mewtwo does not decrease my interest for Smash. It's still Smash, and I'll still enjoy it. Besides, between Lucina, Robin, Samus and ROB I can enjoy this game to it's fullest. Throw in my plans for a YouTube channel and I fail to see why I would not enjoy Sm4sh to it's fullest.

 

[IceAnt573]

Smash is Smash. I would have bought it even if Lucina wasn't in. However, she's here (sadly as a clone, but still) and with Robin (my backup Awakening character) who I will admit has a lot more moveset potential than her. Honestly, I'm only disappointed about the lack of Mewtwo, Dixie/K. Rool, and an Advance Wars character (preferably Sami).

 

[AustarusIV]

As much as i love Robin, i can't say she is the only reason i would've picked up this game, i guess i just don't get the negativity towards this game sometimes, i'm aware it has flaws and could have been better, but for what we got it's still an impressive game.

I probably would have still gotten Smash for 3DS even if Robin wasn't in, but at a lowered price.

I've been losing interest in playing video games over the past couple of years, and this was one of the few games that I was genuinely interested at looking forward to.

With the amount of disappointments that came with the leaks, it would have been hard for me to keep interest if Robin didn't get in. Sorry, but that's how I feel about Sm4sh.

 

[Fire Tactician]

As much as i love Robin, i can't say she is the only reason i would've picked up this game, i guess i just don't get the negativity towards this game sometimes, i'm aware it has flaws and could have been better, but for what we got it's still an impressive game.

Sigh, I went to the next page and had to backspace to Like this. Yeah, all games have their flaws, but Smash seems extremely susceptible to complaints. I guess the problem is that it attracts the haters from multiple franchises and gives them a common enemy. Combine that with the legitimate smaller complaints from typical gamers and suddenly all of the negativity can seem overwhelming.

This is getting too sad. Here's a wonderful example of dubstep technique:

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[Deleted member]

Smash is still Smash to me. Of course there are some flaws, but I will still buy the game regardless since it will still be a fun game.

 

[Frostwraith]

Hello, fellow tacticians. Haven't posted here in a while.

Still hyped to try out Robin and it feels so close. I will never forget the happiness I felt in that trailer, the hype and the fact one of my most wanted characters was going to be in the game. It was amazing.

My other most wanted newcomer Dark Pit being confirmed was also a pleasant surprise.

I can safely say the only negative feeling I have about this game are the cut characters, but I've had it worse in Brawl with Mewtwo being gone and none of my most wanted characters back then (one of them being Bowser Jr. actually). While I wasn't surprised by Ivysaur, Squirtle and Snake being cut, Ice Climbers, Lucas and Wolf really caught me off-guard.

But the positives outweigh the negatives, so I'm hyped to try out the new game for real. The demo has already given me a very good impression, so I can't really complain about a few characters being gone.

 

[Weeman]

Also Minato Arisato now that i see you here, i just finished Persona 3, and i must say... it was amazing

 

[LIQUID12A]

I can safely say the only negative feeling I have about this game are the cut characters, but I've had it worse in Brawl with Mewtwo being gone and none of my most wanted characters back then (one of them being Bowser Jr. actually). While I wasn't surprised by Ivysaur, Squirtle and Snake being cut, Ice Climbers, Lucas and Wolf really caught me off-guard.

But the positives outweigh the negatives, so I'm hyped to try out the new game for real. The demo has already given me a very good impression, so I can't really complain about a few characters being gone.

I could be a whining jerk who complains about Mewtwo and Snake being dropped. But I'm not.

Sm4sh has surprised me in ways I can't imagine. Greninja, even if I won't main him, was an interesting twist. I initially despised Lucina and Robin, but them being added(on the same date of an insane Mewtwo theory no less) was arguably the best thing that happened to me during speculation. It got me into Fire Emblem, made me buy Awakening, turned Lucina into my favorite female in gaming, and earned my use of two new mains. Pac-Man was also pleasant.

My only complains about the roster amount to Mewtwo dropped, Snake cut and the oddball additions like Dr Mario and Dark Pit(sorry), but it's not bad at all.

I eagerly await a new run in a new fighting game.

 

[redfeatherraven]

I feel like as long as the mechanics of the game are as solid as they seem, the vast majority of this negativeity will dissipate within a short timeframe of the game's release.

There are always a few haters who're butthurt about what they didn't get this time - got cut, never made it in, where the hell has the 64 final destination theme gone, and so on. Fact is, we were never really owed anything more than a fun game. All these references and nods and wonderful characters? All gravy.

I came here to have fun and knock heads, and they gave us so many shiny things to do that with. I have older games if I want to relive the past. Future's looking bright.

 

[Fire Tactician]

I could be a whining jerk who complains about Mewtwo and Snake being dropped. But I'm not.

Sm4sh has surprised me in ways I can't imagine. Greninja, even if I won't main him, was an interesting twist. I initially despised Lucina and Robin, but them being added(on the same date of an insane Mewtwo theory no less) was arguably the best thing that happened to me during speculation. It got me into Fire Emblem, made me buy Awakening, turned Lucina into my favorite female in gaming, and earned my use of two new mains. Pac-Man was also pleasant.

My only complains about the roster amount to Mewtwo dropped, Snake cut and the oddball additions like Dr Mario and Dark Pit(sorry), but it's not bad at all.

I eagerly await a new run in a new fighting game.

You shall be exterminated for speaking against the Dark Angel Lord!!!

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Not really, since I do understand people not wanting him. It just makes me seem like a hipster maining him!

But Dr. Mario is a little odder. Lucina was already planned as an alt and Dark Pit is just a color swap of Pit, but Dr. Mario must have required new resources for his model... unless, like Lucina, he was an upgraded alt.

 

[Shaymikyu]

While I'm sure some better decisions could have been made, I doubt we'll ever get the "perfect" Smash game since everyone has wildly different opinions on what it should be. Even if Sakurai took a poll and included all the top choices, there would still be a ton of angry fans of other characters or people angry that so-and-so made it in (a mentality I don't quite get, admittedly- there are fighters I dislike, but I know they have fans who are happy to see them in).

 

[LIQUID12A]

You shall be exterminated for speaking against the Dark Angel Lord!!!

Go ahead. I have a right to express my thoughts

 

[Fire Tactician]

Go ahead. I have a right to express my thoughts

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While we're expressing our thoughts, I think that Ridley would be an awful choice for a playable character and that we should just be happy that he's in as a boss- the biggest honor they can bestow someone unfit for being playable. Now please don't exterminate me...

 

[LIQUID12A]

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While we're expressing our thoughts, I think that Ridley would be an awful choice for a playable character and that we should just be happy that he's in as a boss- the biggest honor they can bestow someone unfit for being playable. Now please don't exterminate me...

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I prefer Sylux and Rundas to Ridley.

Come at me.

 

[Morbi]

While I'm sure some better decisions could have been made, I doubt we'll ever get the "perfect" Smash game since everyone has wildly different opinions on what it should be. Even if Sakurai took a poll and included all the top choices, there would still be a ton of angry fans of other characters or people angry that so-and-so made it in (a mentality I don't quite get, admittedly- there are fighters I dislike, but I know they have fans who are happy to see them in).

The perfect Smash game already exists, it has for a decade... it is called Super Smash Brothers Melee.

Up-throw into rest.

 

[Weeman]

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While we're expressing our thoughts, I think that Ridley would be an awful choice for a playable character and that we should just be happy that he's in as a boss- the biggest honor they can bestow someone unfit for being playable. Now please don't exterminate me...

Wow hang on there buddy, watch your words, no one wants you dead



...yet.

 

[Frostwraith]

You shall be exterminated for speaking against the Dark Angel Lord!!!

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Not really, since I do understand people not wanting him. It just makes me seem like a hipster maining him!

But Dr. Mario is a little odder. Lucina was already planned as an alt and Dark Pit is just a color swap of Pit, but Dr. Mario must have required new resources for his model... unless, like Lucina, he was an upgraded alt.

Dark Pit is best Lord.

Dr. Mario was the clone they likely spent more time in making. Lucina and Dark Pit are pretty much glorified alts, since their differences don't make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Should've made male and female Robin separate clone characters. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

While I'm sure some better decisions could have been made, I doubt we'll ever get the "perfect" Smash game since everyone has wildly different opinions on what it should be. Even if Sakurai took a poll and included all the top choices, there would still be a ton of angry fans of other characters or people angry that so-and-so made it in (a mentality I don't quite get, admittedly- there are fighters I dislike, but I know they have fans who are happy to see them in).

Given the nature of crossovers, it's pretty much impossible to include everyone's favorite characters.

Because every character has fans, unless they're really outlandish (like Wii Fit Trainer).

 

[Fire Tactician]

Wow hang on there buddy, watch your words, no one wants you dead



...yet.

Woah, avatar change!!! It's like having plastic surgery... we'll need to re-learn your face!... Well, at least you still have Hawlucha in your sig...








... I can't die until I've posted the video that I have of Robin Tome-Throwing for a KO on YouTube... which should be at some point tomorrow.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Wow hang on there buddy, watch your words, no one wants you dead



...yet.

NO

WHERES HAWLUCHA

WHY

NO

;-;

 

[Mr. Johan]

Was going to get Smash 4 from the beginning.

Sonic being reconfirmed just solidified it.

Robin getting in was the higher divine powers telling me "You deserve it."

 

[shrooby]

Spoiler

While we're expressing our thoughts, I think that Ridley would be an awful choice for a playable character and that we should just be happy that he's in as a boss- the biggest honor they can bestow someone unfit for being playable. Now please don't exterminate me...

 

[redfeatherraven]

NO

WHERES HAWLUCHA

WHY

NO

;-;

Don't cry.

Hawlucha will always be here.

In your heart.

 

[Weeman]

Don't cry.

Hawlucha will always be here.

In your heart.

... For that is his true power.

 

[AustarusIV]

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While we're expressing our thoughts, I think that Ridley would be an awful choice for a playable character and that we should just be happy that he's in as a boss- the biggest honor they can bestow someone unfit for being playable. Now please don't exterminate me...

Oh, um, wow.

You must really hate him and his fans that much.

...okay.

 

[redfeatherraven]

... For that is his true power.
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I disagree on the grounds that Hawlucha's true power is breaking people.

Elige un dios y ora.

 

[Weeman]

I disagree on the grounds that Hawlucha's true power is breaking people.

Elige un dios y ora.

Well if Ike can fight for his friends AND give no sympathy to anyone, i don't see why can't Hawlucha do so as well

 

[LousyTactician]

... For that is his true power.
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Greninja is cool and all, but man what I would have given for Hawlucha to be playable. Oh well, there's always Pokken Fighters.

 

[Minato Arisato]

Also Minato Arisato now that i see you here, i just finished Persona 3, and i must say... it was amazing

Indeed it was.

 

[Fire Tactician]

Oh, um, wow.

You must really hate him and his fans that much.

...okay.

I don't hate anyone or anything- I just think that he's impractical. Still, fans will be fans, and I'm okay with people wanting him in and even campaigning for him to be in. I just think that he's not really that bad of a loss and that Sakurai is doing everything in his power to incorporate Ridley in every way except for making him playable. Basically, I'm against the extremists who are all like "RIDLEY OR RAGE AND KILL SAKURAI!" but I'm okay with other general Ridley fans who are reasonable.

And remember, all that I posted was that I didn't like the idea of Ridley being playable- I never said that I hated him or that I'd be mad if he was in the game. If Sakurai could seamlessly put him into the game, I'd be happy for his fans.

Aside: Oh my gosh, this ad for "Shadows of Mordor" is so obnoxious. I've somehow been directed to its site 7 times within the composition of this post. I'm looking forward to that game myself, but I likely won't get it until Christmas or later, so it's taunting me!

 

[AustarusIV]

I don't hate anyone or anything- I just think that he's impractical. Still, fans will be fans, and I'm okay with people wanting him in and even campaigning for him to be in. I just think that he's not really that bad of a loss and that Sakurai is doing everything in his power to incorporate Ridley in every way except for making him playable. Basically, I'm against the extremists who are all like "RIDLEY OR RAGE AND KILL SAKURAI!" but I'm okay with other general Ridley fans who are reasonable.

And remember, all that I posted was that I didn't like the idea of Ridley being playable- I never said that I hated him or that I'd be mad if he was in the game. If Sakurai could seamlessly put him into the game, I'd be happy for his fans.

...Which makes it all the harder for them to deal with trolls and detractors. Try to put yourself in their shoes and see what it's like to be insulted at and flamed for wanting a character for 10+ years, with seemingly no end in sight. The same goes for Mewtwo, considering that he's been denied twice so far.

I'm not forcing you to like the character, just try to understand why so many of them hate the fact that he's seemingly a "pinata" that's unfaithful to how he generally acts as a boss in the Metroid series. I for one would much rather have him as an AT over that position.

 

[redfeatherraven]

The only bosses in this game that aren't piñatas are other players.

Some players are also piñatas.

Myself for example.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I disagree on the grounds that Hawlucha's true power is breaking people.

Elige un dios y ora.

Arceus salvame D:

 

[Hong]

I hope that Ridley and King K. Rool will serve as a learning experience for the community, but I doubt it.

Even if they show Ridley as a boss on day one for the pre-release hype of Smash 5, people will take every update as a subliminal message that another version of Ridley is still in the game. Even if they say "RIDLEY IS NOT A PLAYABLE CHARACTER IN THE GAME!", the community will be like "No! You would only go out of your way to say that for a reason!"

Literal shapes in the clouds.

 

[redfeatherraven]

What would be especially interesting under those circumstances is a Meta Ridley reveal as a Smash 5 boss, because then, theoretically, you could set up a Giga Bowser situation. A regular Ridley could be in the fighter lineup afterwards, with Meta Ridley as his final smash, again, theoretically.

I see absolutely none of this happening, but it's possible.

I'm good with Samus and More Samus personally.

Arceus salvame D:

Creo que no. Su último aliento se acerca.

 

[Folt]

As far as Ridley goes, I think he works best as a boss, like how he was in SSE.

 

[Hong]

They should add Poke Floats from Melee, but replace all the Pokemon with Ridley.

We'll call it Ridley Floats.

All the Ridley fans could ever ask for.

 

[Shaya]

I swear to god Hong if you were anyone else, ******** about Ridley in the Robin thread would get you BOPPED.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I still think we should have had the big fan favorites be here after so much demand - but if they just had to be put in other roles (Ridley) or just weren't possibly planned, then this is the best we can get IMO. Aside from cuts happening on semi-clones.

On my own opinion to Ridley, I might be perhaps indifferent to him at best. Sometimes I think that his menacingness seems best presented as a boss however, because as a fighter, he seems less prone to expressivity and goofiness than even most serious characters in the roster. But I tend to believe that if he were presented in a good way, I'd be hopping on the belt as well.

But back on Robin and getting Smash 4 - I sometimes lament how people would skip over the games due the roster. Just drives on how apparently it is everything while clearly one misses a lot if thinking by so. This series can be really salty at times.

At the end, it a popularity/value scale that Sakurai holds in order to determine best and most "deserving" Nintendo-characters. While I'm a guy who wishes everything that is generally deserving (so everyone is happy), even that what I think can highly differ from everybody else. Due this reason, I think the choice on the playstyles within the newcomers being big theme here was more superior choice ath the end, and has done well contributing to most of the character choices aside from the relevancy within Nintendo's newest prominent IPs.
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I think that'll capture the hearts of the first-timers for this series as they find many types of characters to try out and click within and they will have complete fun with the newcomers that truly feel their own. And in the long run, that might be better than outright having to pander on fanbases with somewhat less stylized and unique movesets on some characters than what we got at the end. (At the end I think they did more effort on these movesets compared newcomers in Brawl)

It also gives me hope that if the quality on newcomers on next games will go up on being better and not just "pandering" to fanbases when doing inclusions.

 

[Shaymikyu]

Greninja is cool and all, but man what I would have given for Hawlucha to be playable. Oh well, there's always Pokken Fighters.

If Hawlucha was playable, he'd easily be in my top 5 characters to use at least.

On the Ridley topic- I'm indifferent to him. I wouldn't mind seeing him in, but I'm not heartbroken over it. Maybe if I had played Metroid I'd have stronger opinions. It does annoy me when some fans (or of many of the popular wanted characters who didn't make it in, for that matter), attack others who don't immediately accept every leak with said character in it and accuse them of hating the character if they don't make a big deal out of them not being in, but I understand that's just a vocal minority, so I don't let it color my perception of the characters or their fans. I can even relate to the plight of losing/not getting your favorite, though I've mostly coped at this point.