Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Deleted member]

what do you think of the possibility of his fire finisher being a fsmash, the gif in my post being a dsmash and the arcwind looking infinite being the actual and only jab combo?

With regards to the third strike of that combo with the fire tome being an F-Smash, I feel like the speed/flow of the animations is a little too fast for it be a Smash Attack. For example, Melee Fox's jab->U-Smash still has a noticeable slight pause between the jab and U-Smash execution. I think right now that the fire tome 3rd hit is just an unusually strong combo finisher.

Also, if the wind tome infinite is the only neutral combo, that would imply that there would be an automatic tome switch from whichever tome Robin was holding, to the wind tome when the infinite is executed. I doubt this will happen since tome switches have been revealed to be tied to each special move direction.

 

[ToothiestAura]

it could be something like pkf or mewtwo's infinite jab, DIable and all and not a command grab.

I think it's probably just a command grab, but it could be something different, I suppose.

I'm also thinking that the Combo Finisher's Wind version is shown. At about 1:40, Robin is seen slashing Kirby and then casting a multihit wind attack (Arcwind, I believe). Though, the cast does look different from earlier Fire attack. Sakurai essentially confirmed today that Robin's Smash Attacks involve his sword(s), so the only other option for Arcwind would be the grounded version of his Up Special.

 

[Baws]

Not having the required tools to recover or perform a move did not stop devs from giving Olimar empty Smash attacks and aerials, and Olimar and Sopo nonexistent UpBs when their means of recovery were knocked away.

Realistically speaking, the same will apply to Robin based on precedent.

With the tools on hand, Robin will be STUPIDLY amazing. If the opponent can survive the magic onslaught long enough, Robin becomes much easier to handle, but they nonetheless have to be wary because of the Bronze Sword.

Though it is worth noting this no longer applies to Olimar, and we haven't seen the Ice Climbers yet. Also, Olimar can easily replenish his supply while Nana is only gone if you let her die. For Robin, you HAVE to use up the last of your tomes at some point, so if you saved up the last of your tomes for Elwind the first time, the tome will still break for an unknown amount of time leaving you vulnerable.

 

[Yodude57]

el wind is his up b, the clip shows it propelling him upwards after cast

That's what I thought I first but the wind goes down and it seems to push him up from the force of it. But thx for replying and please tell me what you think
Edit: oh ok now I see it now thx for the correction

 

[dimensionsword64]

Todays Potd confused me even more. ;_;

 

[Zora_of_Ylisse]

My speculation is that the Tomes act like Olimar's Pikmin, sorta. When they run out of uses, they get tossed. But, like Pikmin, perhaps Robin will have a special, Down-B perhaps, that summons a new Tome.

 

[ToothiestAura]

I have no idea how Mire would work, unfortunately.

Like a combination of Sonic's Homing Attack and and the Crash Bomber? It homes in on the nearest target, but gives the opponent some indication of hitting so they can dodge if they have good enough timing.

 

[mimgrim]

Olimar can re-pluck his Pikmin at any time on the ground. It isn't time related. If you don't have any Pikmin, then it is your fault.

With ICs, you are not suppose to let Nanna die, and if she does die then SoPo is meant to be considerably worse.

Robin will lose the tome eventually, no matter what and based on the Levin and Bronze the regeneration is going to be timed based. It's a different precedent.

 

[ToastMiller]

My speculation is that the Tomes act like Olimar's Pikmin, sorta. When they run out of uses, they get tossed. But, like Pikmin, perhaps Robin will have a special, Down-B perhaps, that summons a new Tome.

we've confirmed nosferatsu isn't a pummel, and it doesn't have anywhere else to fit except DownB

 

[GamerGuy09]

Olimar can re-pluck his Pikmin at any time on the ground. It isn't time related. If you don't have any Pikmin, then it is your fault.

With ICs, you are not suppose to let Nanna die, and if she does die then SoPo is meant to be considerably worse.

Robin will lose the tome eventually, no matter what and based on the Levin and Bronze the regeneration is going to be timed based. It's a different precedent.

I wonder how long the respawn times for his Tomes and LS will be. Like 30 seconds?

 

[Zora_of_Ylisse]

For some reason, my post got posted a bunch of times. I'm having to edit them all, I'll ask a Mod to delete the extras for me.

 

[Zora_of_Ylisse]

I'm so sorry about that, guys....

 

[Gigawattz]

Like a combination of Sonic's Homing Attack and and the Crash Bomber? It homes in on the nearest target, but gives the opponent some indication of hitting so they can dodge if they have good enough timing.

Way better idea than I had, I just though of it as being a simple long distance version of the attack. This would be pretty cool to see.

 

[Banjodorf]

Not having the required tools to recover or perform a move did not stop devs from giving Olimar empty Smash attacks and aerials, and Olimar and Sopo nonexistent UpBs when their means of recovery were knocked away.

Realistically speaking, the same will apply to Robin based on precedent.

If Olimar and Ice Climbers are anything to go by, with the tools on hand, Robin will be inconceivably AMAZING. If the opponent can survive the magic onslaught long enough though, Robin becomes much easier to handle, but they nonetheless have to be wary because of the Bronze Sword.

And I honestly don't think this'll be a huge problem. Sakurai (and more specifically Namdai + Sakurai) is not stupid enough to think having a long recharge time on the tomes would be a good idea. The Levin sword may have at least half a minute, but the tomes are so central to Robin's gameplay they shouldn't be gone for long.

 

[Yodude57]

This is the most hype I've had for a new character reveal yet!

 

[Anthinus]

Maybe this was said before (news for me at least)... I was checking some spanish videogame sites (I speak spanish) and found that Robin's name in spanish is different, he/she is called Daraen. I was like "who is this Daraen they're talking about?".

 

[Deleted member]

My favorite weapon would have to be any Dark Magic Tome, honestly.

But if I had to choose I would say Balberith or Carreau from RD or Apocalypse/Gespenst/Gleipnir from Binding Blade/Rekka no Ken/SS, respectively.

And like @Raziek I've also played through every internationally released/English FE title (from FE7 onwards). Some multiple times (RD 4, Awakening planning 3 times, respectively) and the others only once, although SS is my favorite of the series (that I've played, since I haven't played the Japan only titles) and favorite game of all time. I typically played through the games on normal difficulty (although I played Rekka no Ken on easy, if it even had it (I can't remember) since I played that game when I was like 8), but I did a hard playthrough of RD after my first time through and plan to do a Lunatic/Lunatic+ run for Awakening.

If I had to pick a favorite physical weapon, it would have to be either the Killing Edge (the katana style, not the scimitar style in the Tellius games) or the RD Brave Lance. My favorite legendary/high-tier/exclusive physical weapons would have to be Armads, Sol Katti, and Siegmund; first two being from Rekka no Ken and the third being from SS. Honorable mention to the Double Bow from RD.

 

[M@v]

Won't lie; Robin/Lucina are the first new reveals that have truly excited to play smash 4. Little Mac was interesting
but I wasn't like OMG MUST PLAY. Robin did that for me, and Lucina is just icing on the cake, even if she is ultimately clone like. One of the first things I will want to see is how different she is from Marth, since I've been a Marth user in both melee and Brawl. Always liked the moveset, and I want to see if Lucina's sword properties make me like it better.

 

[Banjodorf]

Maybe this was said before (news for me at least)... I was checking some spanish videogame sites (I speak spanish) and found that Robin's name in spanish is different, he/she is called Daraen. I was like "who is this Daraen they're talking about?".

Yeah, as I understand it, Robin's name is:

Robin: US/UK...most other places?
Daraen: Spain/France/Germany
Reflet: Japan

Anything I'm missing?

 

[ihskeyp]

So... Robin is called Reflet in the Japanese version if the site. Sorry if this was discussed already, but I was just wondering if that's Robin's default name in Japan?
EDIT: it's actually answered in the post right above me, lol I should read first. I apologize for my stupidity.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Nosferatu seems super powerful. Could you imagine it in doubles?

 

[Sunnysunny]

So Robin is the antithesis of Lucario.

He starts off strong and gets weaker as the match goes on.

I think the idea behind Robin is more along the lines of attack management. Like not blowing all your Levin swings before you're sure you can get the KO, otherwise the opponent won't have as much to worry about at high percent if your stuck with a bronze sword.

 

[Zora_of_Ylisse]

we've confirmed nosferatsu isn't a pummel, and it doesn't have anywhere else to fit except DownB

I get that, but what I'm saying is this: Based on power an effect, each Tome must have limited uses. For instance, a weak spell like Thunder may have 10 uses and then Robin ditches the tome. Then, he may have a special attack to summon a new Tome, like Dark magic, for example. And that dark magic tome he summoned to replace the Thunder tome may contain Nosferatu in it's repeteur.

 

[someonetookjacob]

I get that, but what I'm saying is this: Based on power an effect, each Tome must have limited uses. For instance, a weak spell like Thunder may have 10 uses and then Robin ditches the tome. Then, he may have a special attack to summon a new Tome, like Dark magic, for example. And that dark magic tome he summoned to replace the Thunder tome may contain Nosferatu in it's repeteur.

But there is also the part in the trailer where fem robin switches tombs, straight from arcfire to arc lightning, implying that the moves are tied to your inputs, not what tomb you have out.

 

[Yodude57]

Do you guys see how many people are viewing this tread! I guess I'm not the only one who is extremely excited!

 

[Deleted member]

Nosferatu seems super powerful. Could you imagine it in doubles?

Double Robin Nosferatu infinite? If you can catch opponents out of the escape pretty well, it'd be like a different style of the infinite pummel/grab release that can be done in a 2v1 situation.

Either way it'd be damn dangerous.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Nosferatu seems super powerful. Could you imagine it in doubles?

"Teammate! I'm at a percent where I can be comboed to death by this guy once he respawns! Quick, use Nosferatu on me to get me out of danger and we'll both be golden!"

 

[ToastMiller]

I get that, but what I'm saying is this: Based on power an effect, each Tome must have limited uses. For instance, a weak spell like Thunder may have 10 uses and then Robin ditches the tome. Then, he may have a special attack to summon a new Tome, like Dark magic, for example. And that dark magic tome he summoned to replace the Thunder tome may contain Nosferatu in it's repeteur.

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that nosferatsu duals as tome replacement AND an attack?

 

[Gigawattz]

Nosferatu seems super powerful. Could you imagine it in doubles?

If two Robins are in the battle, would it be possible to have them lock you into multiple Nosferatus? I doubt they would let something like that go unchecked, although it would be pretty dang scary if it was possible.

 

[ToastMiller]

If two Robins are in the battle, would it be possible to have them lock you into multiple Nosferatus? I doubt they would let something like that go unchecked, although it would be pretty dang scary if it was possible.

They allowed wobbling in some tourneys.

 

[Yodude57]

If two Robins are in the battle, would it be possible to have them lock you into multiple Nosferatus? I doubt they would let something like that go unchecked, although it would be pretty dang scary if it was possible.

Highly doubt it. It would be like allowing two people to grab the same person at the same time.

 

[M@v]

Nosferatu looks the pummel attack, so the only way that's likely is if you can pass off someone between grabs by pummeling then ground releasing them. (Its what brawl 2v1s usually did to finish off a 2v1).

 

[Zora_of_Ylisse]

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that nosferatsu duals as tome replacement AND an attack?

No, no. I'm saying that Nosferatu may just be one attack in the Dark Magic tome as a whole. Like, there may be more moves included in a single Tome, and Nosferatu may be joined by other dark spells.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Nosferatu looks the pummel attack, so the only way that's likely is if you can pass off someone between grabs by pummeling then ground releasing them. (Its what brawl 2v1s usually did to finish off a 2v1).

It isn't a pummel. It is his down special.

If two Robins are in the battle, would it be possible to have them lock you into multiple Nosferatus? I doubt they would let something like that go unchecked, although it would be pretty dang scary if it was possible.

Maybe when Nosferatu is over, the enemy goes into a crumple state that they can tech from?

 

[Deleted member]

Nosferatu looks the pummel attack, so the only way that's likely is if you can pass off someone between grabs by pummeling then ground releasing them. (Its what brawl 2v1s usually did to finish off a 2v1).

Well, both the animation for the normal grab and Nosferatu were shown, and they were different, which implies Nosferatu is a command grab (not the pummel). But still, a ground release infinite could still be possible with it.

Also, as @ Mr. Johan said, since Friendly Fire is typically on in doubles, I feel like a teammate heal Nosferatu exploit could be a little broken, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[ToastMiller]

Well, both the animation for the normal grab and Nosferatu were shown, and they were different, which implies Nosferatu is a command grab (not the pummel). But still, a ground release infinite could still be possible with it.

Also, as @ Mr. Johan said, since Friendly Fire is typically on in doubles, I feel like a teammate heal Nosferatu exploit could be a little broken, but we'll have to wait and see.

It looks more like a DIable infinite than a command grab, kinda like mewtwo's jab infinite, in that sense it'd be easy to infinite with two robins.

 

[Amical]

Guys, I found the perfect reaction .gif.

 

[GamerGuy09]

It looks more like a DIable infinite than a command grab, kinda like mewtwo's jab infinite, in that sense it'd be easy to infinite with two robins.

I don't think it is DI-able. Look at palutena, she is grounded, like she is in a stunned state.

 

[Drakonis]

Yeah, as I understand it, Robin's name is:

Robin: US/UK...most other places?
Daraen: Spain/France/Germany
Reflet: Japan

Anything I'm missing?

That still bugs me. The default name was Robin in the German version of Awakening, and I hope they change it on the Smash site to keep the consistency up. I''m just so used to Robin...

 

[ToastMiller]

I don't think it is DI-able. Look at palutena, she is grounded, like she is in a stunned state.

:/ maybe. but robin get's four attacks off, and likewise four heals. That seems like a lot for a simple command grab