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Your technically wrong. We have not seen Elthunder, it just skips to Arcthunder. It also skips it in the gif above I believe.
Mind reposting this theory? I've missed quite a few pages and wouldn't know where to find it.
Actually you're wrong, we did see El Thunder, right after Thunder on Mario and before Arc Thunder on Wii Fit Trainer.
I speak (more like listen, can't read) some Japanese, and I can confirm it's a very accurate translation. But if it didn't help your case then, well... there's nothing that can be done.
Naw, it charges from Thunder to Elthunder to Arcthunder to Thoron. Watch very closely.
Sure. It was in response to this:
This is the part that confuses me the most. I had a theory that only the Thunder Tomes can actually break. This is because only the Thunder spells are shown to charge, only the Thunder tome is shown being tossed away and the Levin Sword does electric-element damage. So I thought that the Levin Sword would replace Robin's Thunder as the (tentative) neutral Special. We see him use the Levin Sword in two attacks, an overhead slam attack on the ground and an uppercut in the air (think of it like how Kirby's Hammer is slightly different when used in the air).
To add to that (I edited my previous post covering it anyway) El Thunder looks like it's a larger, more durable Thunder. It doesn't really have anything remarkable about it.
Ah you meant that one. Derp on my part. Well just like how we concluded only Thunder can be charged, this assumes only Thunder can break, as it's the only one we've seen breaking. It's possible I supposed, but it'd kind of make the characters gimmick pointless if that was the case.
Technically, it only shows him charging up to Arcthunder. The symbol for Thoron doesn't show as far as I can see, but it was obviously going to show up very soon. Plus, I mean, he uses all of them in the trailer, later. Calls them by name.
Oh jeez how could I miss that! I guess since there was no Gif I thought it just skipped it because that moment was so short. I'm sorry.
That fact could actually confirm my theory. What if he used all of the Elthunders? Now it would skip it now that he doesn't have that tome.
The symbol in the last charge of my GIF looks the same as the symbol on the Fire tome in my profile pic. We could assume that Arcfire and Arcthunder share the same symbol. So yeah, this sounds right to me.
Or what if he used all of his Elthunders? That might prove my theory correct, that each of the different charged versions has a unique durability.
You're right, but for a different reason. Your theory of all the spells breaking after so many uses can be true, but the spell that doesn't show in the gif is Thoron. It shows Thunder, Elthunder, and Arcthunder.
I was referring to not seeing Thoron's symbol during the charging segment specifically. Obviously Thoron's symbol would show up elsewhere. But thank you all the same.Actually, you're mistaken my friend. I got you covered
Boom, Thoron.
Well as always, all I can say is that it's possible. The charge theory I'm most inclined to is that he doesn't have a specific number of uses of each level, but rather all levels share a metaphorical (or perhaps literal, who knows?) "meter" if you will, and that the higher levels spells drain more of said meter, making the tome break faster.
I would imagine the symbols on the tome in smash are the same as (or mostly similar to) the symbols in Awakening (in other words: yes).
They embellished Nosferatu's symbol a bit, but yes, they look to be otherwise following the game's (tiny) sprites rather faithfully.
I made the same observation recently. XD
AHA! So, after you use your charged thunder spell (regardless of charge level), you revert to Thunder again! Great find!That proves it none the less though. Because
The Tome after Thoron was used.
Maybe, but for the Levin Sword, I think we are all still at a big lost.
You're welcome my friend. No detail will go overlooked from my eye.
That's really awesome because it prevents spamming. The main problem in my mind is how can you tell what spell you are on? A symbol or how much you are flashing?
I don't think we are so lost. I think that once you use all of a special move tome, once you use it again you pull out the Levin Sword. However the Levin Sword has a durability of its own, and you are able to switch back to your bronze sword again by using that special again.
The color and amount of electricity changes when you reach a new spell.
Hong's theory could explain that if Robin is given a UI element to tell. If not....maybe you can tell by how much lightning surrounds you while charging?
Thank you immensely. That's one of many questions out of the way. :DThat proves it none the less though. Because
The Tome after Thoron was used.
Makes sense.
I wonder if a UI element will show the durability of your current tome.
The reaction to Robin was exactly the same, probably. Because, you know, the same thing happened over here.
I do not believe the Japanese fan-base got the "tip the scales" line, so I would not be surprised if they were not as hype.
If you watch the charging gif, the electricity becomes larger and orangey once the charge reaches Arcthunder.
I'm not so sure about that icon theory. That seems like a major detail for Robin, so wouldn't we have seen it in the trailer, or wouldn't Sakurai have talked about it briefly in the Pic of the Day for Robin?
Yeah, that's what I said a few pages back, but now I'm questioning it...
Lucina's trophy will definitely state who her canon mother is!
It's random village maiden.
We don't know that. When tomes might break, they might not come back ever. That's my theory or else why add a durability system?
Rosalina's (amazing) Up Special doesn't take a hit when she has no Luma. Just sayin'.
It's Forward Smash imo. However, it shows the pure power of Levin Sword. It not only has more range, but also covers more area around him, in this case both sides. Making a decent attack much saferSo, this might be a bit controversial, but I think the attack in this gif
may actually be a down smash. If you look closely, sparks travel forward and behind Robin when the sword hits the ground, giving the attack the typical dsmash coverage.
Of course, this begs the question of what how this attack will work without the electricity from the Levin Sword when using the Bronze Sword. Honestly, I think the answer is fairly simple.
It'll just kinda suck.
If you watch the charging gif, the electricity becomes larger and orangey once the charge reaches Arcthunder.
I agree with you, and honestly, I agree with GameXplain, too, since they thought as you do on that move.So, this might be a bit controversial, but I think the attack in this gif
may actually be a down smash. If you look closely, sparks travel forward and behind Robin when the sword hits the ground, giving the attack the typical dsmash coverage.
Of course, this begs the question of what how this attack will work without the electricity from the Levin Sword when using the Bronze Sword. Honestly, I think the answer is fairly simple.
It'll just kinda suck.
I see the uncanny resemblance. It is in the eyes.![]()
I'm guessing the animation wouldn't change with Bronze Sword because Robin isn't supposed to be that great with close combat. Great find though.So, this might be a bit controversial, but I think the attack in this gif
may actually be a down smash. If you look closely, sparks travel forward and behind Robin when the sword hits the ground, giving the attack the typical dsmash coverage.
Of course, this begs the question of what how this attack will work without the electricity from the Levin Sword when using the Bronze Sword. Honestly, I think the answer is fairly simple.
It'll just kinda suck.
If you watch the charging gif, the electricity becomes larger and orangey once the charge reaches Arcthunder.