Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Pazzo.]

I love how Fredrick has a suit on under his armor. Butler night all the way.

Dang, he does. 0_0

I just noticed that!

 

[Hokori]

I almost feel bad for Chrom. Poor guy.

Honestly, I love the guy, but...some things just can't change y'know?

 

[Deleted member]

I can never ignore you. I clicked on each spoiler

Spoiler

<3

Chrom's main skill also says hi.

You mean Rightful King?

 

[Hokori]

You mean Rightful King?

Yup, the Rightful King skill he trained oh so very hard for to help him yell "AETHER!" as loud as Ike does

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

*I'm back... yay..(?)*

Anyway, Chrom is really Ike, and not Marth's, descendant.

There's a pretty good chance he's descended from both, from a simple genetics standpoint. I mean, over 2000 years, you have a ton of descendants. Hundreds of thousands, easily. The odds of Marth and Ike's bloodlines not intertwining sometime in the intervening years is pretty small.

Which brings me to another point. A gripe not just about Awakening, but about video games in general. Why is it such a big deal that Chrom is descended from Marth? I mean, sure he is and all, but so is probably half of his army. The majority of the world can trace their ancestry back to some king or another.

Video game designers don't understand genealogy, ancestry, or genetics.

 

[Hong]

Second only to Robin, of course, Chrom's design is my favorite in Awakening. I love the regal and almost knightly look they gave him.

Hm. While both are great, I'll give Lucina the edge over Chrom... Maybe it's the Marth cosplay, I don't know. They both look simply fabulous when they promote to Great Lord.

Probably both, but more so subconsciously thinking about Ike imo. How Chrom commands, how naive he can be (unless I'm the only one that got the impression of him being naive somehow...)...Ike Ike Ike Ike Ike

Well, both Ike and Chrom were naive. Not to the degree of Leif, but still young and unknowing. Both also had a stern tactician at their side, and a loving guardian who has been there to watch them grow.

There are two notable differences.
1) Ike had two games to grow.
2) Ike had a better example, being Greil.

When Greil tells Ike what he has done wrong, there is no argument. He accepts his mistakes and wants to learn from them. By the end of Path of Radiance alone, Ike has learned a lot, and fast, and it's kept realistic. By Radiant Dawn, Ike is already well hardened by the world around him... perhaps growing up too fast.

Honestly, I love the guy, but...some things just can't change y'know?

Anything can change.

 

[JaidynReiman]

There's a pretty good chance he's descended from both, from a simple genetics standpoint. I mean, over 2000 years, you have a ton of descendants. Hundreds of thousands, easily. The odds of Marth and Ike's bloodlines not intertwining sometime in the intervening years is pretty small.

Which brings me to another point. A gripe not just about Awakening, but about video games in general. Why is it such a big deal that Chrom is descended from Marth? I mean, sure he is and all, but so is probably half of his army. The majority of the world can trace their ancestry back to some king or another.

Video game designers don't understand genealogy, ancestry, or genetics.

Probably because Chrom's line remained at the head of the royal family? That's my guess.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

I really wish IS had given us a glimpse of what happened in Chrom and Emm's past in the game. I've always wondered what their father was like, what caused him to mercilessly attack Plegia. That kind of stuff.

But I digress. Grima demands a sacrifice.

 

[Deleted member]

I still don't understand why Emmeryn can't have support conversations with Chrom and Lissa after she is recruited, considering they are her siblings and the way Chrom and Lissa react during that scene.

 

[Hong]

I really wish IS had given us a glimpse of what happened in Chrom and Emm's past in the game. I've always wondered what their father was like, what caused him to mercilessly attack Plegia. That kind of stuff.

I agree. Everyone would have loved more story from Awakening.

The comics alone leaves me hungry for more. The overall concept from start to finish is good, and I feel attention was spent in the wrong areas. I know a lot of people knock on time travel as being a lame plot device, but it doesn't always have to be bad. Akira Toriyama has done great things with it in Chrono Trigger and Dragon Ball, for example.

That said, starting the game off by killing the man who will be the first thing you see immediately after was really trippy. O.O I loved it.

 

[Delzethin]

And the thread's moving fast again. o_O

Some of his early concept art has him with a red cape, and a more Ike like costume... they really had Ike on the mind when they made this guy, didn't they?

I forgot about his red caped concept art. Yeah, it makes it even more obvious he was meant to be a fusion of Marth and Ike. Something Sakurai would have to be aware of...

Is it bad that I don't know what an order is...? (At least in the context to which you are referring).

Probably the Order of Smashboards Mods. >_>

 

[Hong]

You know, that's kind of funny.

Let's go back in time. It's 2012 and Mr. Sakurai is gathering character concepts.

Gets to the Pokemon envelope, pulls out a document.

Spoiler

"Uh... Alright. A ninja. I've worked with them before. I can do this."

Gets to the Fire Emblem envelope, pulls out the document.

Spoiler

"... ****."

 

[False Sense]

You know, that's kind of funny.

Let's go back in time. It's 2012 and Mr. Sakurai is gathering character concepts.

Gets to the Pokemon envelope, pulls out a document.

Spoiler

"Uh... Alright. A ninja. I've worked with them before. I can do this."

Gets to the Fire Emblem envelope, pulls out the document.

Spoiler

"... ****."

And then he pulls out the concept art for Robin.

...Which I would post here if I could at the moment.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

And then he pulls out the concept art for Robin.

...Which I would post here if I could at the moment.

Spoiler

There you go.

 

[Hong]

You know, that's kind of funny.

Let's go back in time. It's 2012 and Mr. Sakurai is gathering character concepts.

Gets to the Pokemon envelope, pulls out a document.

Spoiler

"Uh... Alright. A ninja. I've worked with them before. I can do this."

Gets to the Fire Emblem envelope, pulls out the document.

Spoiler

"... ****."

Alternative ending:
"... Don't we already have that guy?"

And then he pulls out the concept art for Robin.

...Which I would post here if I could at the moment.

Spoiler

 

[False Sense]

Spoiler

There you go.

Merci beaucoup.

Though yeah, if Sakurai was looking through some basic concept art for newcomers, it's clear which one is more appealing.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Chrom may be quite appealing to the eyes (), but in terms of uniqueness, Robin wins hands down. Every time I look at her concept art, I think of one word only: Bad***.

Also, I really wish I had that coat. Who knows what I could put in those pockets?

 

[Morbi]

Chrom may be quite appealing to the eyes (), but in terms of uniqueness, Robin wins hands down. Every time I look at her concept art, I think of one word only: Bad***.

Also, I really wish I had that coat. Who knows what I could put in those pockets?

I suppose that Robin has the most observable "uniqueness;" however, I also find that Chrom could be just as, if not more unique myself. I also desire her coat. I feel devoid of all happiness without it.

 

[False Sense]

Chrom may be quite appealing to the eyes (), but in terms of uniqueness, Robin wins hands down. Every time I look at her concept art, I think of one word only: Bad***.

Also, I really wish I had that coat. Who knows what I could put in those pockets?

I don't think it's been talked about much, but I actually really like Robin's design. That cloak...

 

[Glaciacott]

You guys do know that you can buy that cloak, right? (assuming you have exorbitant amounts of money to spend on cosplay purchases.)

I personally hope to acquire one eventually once Smash is done destroying my disposable income.

 

[Hong]

You guys do know that you can buy that cloak, right? (assuming you have exorbitant amounts of money to spend on cosplay purchases.)

I personally hope to acquire one eventually once Smash is done destroying my disposable income.

Oh, I've thought about it.

The fun part about Robin is s/he does not have any defined gender and so many appearances. With so much open to intepretation, yet having very defined attire, s/he is a cosplayer's dream.

 

[Morbi]

Oh, I've thought about it.

The fun part about Robin is s/he does not have any defined gender and so many appearances. With so much open to intepretation, yet having very defined attire, s/he is a cosplayers dream.

Are you insinuating that anyone can be Robin, are you implying that we are all Robin? How inspirational.

 

[Hong]

Are you insinuating that anyone can be Robin, are you implying that we are all Robin? How inspirational.

If everyone is Robin, then doesn't that mean we already have over 30 variants of Robin in the game?

Why are we here?

 

[Hokori]

Wow...I literally spent 2-3 minutes watching the Sakurai gif that was posted. Too funny. Too righteous. Too fitting. Too Sakurai.

I really would like the cloak though...and an authentic sword. Not even just for cosplay purposes, more so because I just think it's ******* awesome.

If everyone is Robin, then doesn't that mean we already have over 30 variants of Robin in the game?

Why are we here?

I'm here because I fight for my threads.

And zoooomg, Honggggggg...your new avatar is so <333 << Translate the hearts anyway you'd like to.

 

[Deathlightning21]

Are you insinuating that anyone can be Robin, are you implying that we are all Robin? How inspirational.

Robin is love, Robin is life

I agree. Everyone would have loved more story from Awakening.

The comics alone leaves me hungry for more. The overall concept from start to finish is good, and I feel attention was spent in the wrong areas. I know a lot of people knock on time travel as being a lame plot device, but it doesn't always have to be bad. Akira Toriyama has done great things with it in Chrono Trigger and Dragon Ball, for example.

That said, starting the game off by killing the man who will be the first thing you see immediately after was really trippy. O.O I loved it.

....There are comics?

 

[Delzethin]

Oh, I've thought about it.

The fun part about Robin is s/he does not have any defined gender and so many appearances. With so much open to intepretation, yet having very defined attire, s/he is a cosplayer's dream.

Not gonna lie. If I actually had money, I would've already bought the coat. >_>

Although I'd probably make a better Laurent than Robin, with the eyewear I'm stuck with...

 

[Deathlightning21]

Random Robin related question time!

what are your top 5 wives/husbands for your Robins?

Mine

1) Panne
2) Flavia
3) Say'ri
4) Sully
5) Nah

 

[Hong]

If everyone is Robin, then who is Batman?

And zoooomg, Honggggggg...your new avatar is so <333

Thanks! ^~^ I'm going to stick to Robin avatars from now until release. Here's the full thing.

<< Translate the hearts anyway you'd like to.

Oh Hokori I

Spoiler

....There are comics?

Yes! Official comic, no less. You can find it fully translated here.

Also, please don't double post. Please edit your post instead. Thanks. ^~^

Random Robin related question time!

what are your top 5 wives/husbands for your Robins?

Mine

1) Panne
2) Flavia
3) Say'ri
4) Sully
5) Nah

Um, well, I have never gotten a Robin far enough to marry a woman, but that aside:

1) Chrom
2) Gaius
3) Libra
4) Frederick
5) Virion
6) Robin. Deal with it.

Edit - Oh gosh. I never included any women. I guess Maribelle.

 

[Shorts]

Henry is my official Husbando. :333

 

[Glaciacott]

1) Chrom
2) Chrom
3) Chrom
4) Chrom
5) Henry

 

[AustarusIV]

Some of his early concept art has him with a red cape, and a more Ike like costume... they really had Ike on the mind when they made this guy, didn't they?

I never knew Chrom was originally going to have a red cape as part of his design. Gotta admit, it kind of looks better on him than white.

Random Robin related question time!

what are your top 5 wives/husbands for your Robins?

Mine

1) Panne
2) Flavia
3) Say'ri
4) Sully
5) Nah

Well, I've only done two playthroughs of Awakening with a male and female Robin, so I'll just say the wives/husbands I would have chosen for them. The number one characters are the ones that I picked during that playthrough.

Male

1. Cordelia
2. Lucina
3. Olivia
4. Sumia
5. Tiki

Female

1. Chrom
2. Henry
3. Donnel
4. Stahl
5. Lon'qu

 

[IronFish]

I'd have Robin marry Lucina, but I just love shadow gift Morgan...

 

[Hokori]

Kellam x Nowi...Robin (M) x Nah...Manakete Morgan <3 Ideally, I'd love to marry Tiki because that'd just make me so happy, but it's not exactly optimal. Probably will do another run through again just for fun and set things up simply as a fan of the pairings, not focusing on skills, stats, etc.

 

[XionKai]

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[Another K-2L Survivor]

zoooomg, Honggggggg...your new avatar is so <333 << Translate the hearts anyway you'd like to.

This. I second this.

what are your top 5 wives/husbands for your Robins?

I'ma just throw both genders in here for a cumulative top five.

1. Chrom
2. Tiki
3. Say'ri
4. Lucina
5. Frederick

 

[Hong]

1. Cordelia

Speaking of, it was her birthday yesterday. ( ' ▽ ')/

Kellam x Nowi...Robin (M) x Nah...Manakete Morgan <3 Ideally, I'd love to marry Tiki because that'd just make me so happy, but it's not exactly optimal. Probably will do another run through again just for fun and set things up simply as a fan of the pairings, not focusing on skills, stats, etc.

Marrying Tiki to Robin feels wrong for me.

It's because I'm a pre-Blazing Sword fan. I have a hard time not associating her with her image of over 20 years. She's always just going to be that cute, tiny, though powerful, manakete. The last of the divine dragons. I guess it would be easier for people who associate her with her older and more elegant form, though.

 

[Another K-2L Survivor]

Speaking of, it was her birthday yesterday. ( ' ▽ ')/
Marrying Tiki to Robin feels wrong for me.

It's because I'm a pre-Blazing Sword fan. I have a hard time not associating her with her image of over 20 years. She's always just going to be that cute, tiny, though powerful, manakete. The last of the divine dragons. I guess it would be easier for people who associate her with her older and more elegant form, though.

Being a fan who started with Awakening (I now have three games though ), I obviously associate with the older Tiki far more than with the younger. Reading up on and seeing the younger her seems like a very interesting glimpse into the past though. Something I'm kind of loving about starting to play through the franchise a bit backwards. It's really nice seeing her Awakening support conversations, then getting the chance to relive what she recollects. It just feels so.. tied in. I love it.

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

Well, I've done 5 playthroughs, 4 male 1 female, so I'll just rank the 5 people my Robin married. I feel it'd be unfair to include the characters my Robins didn't marry, though, since I haven't seen all their support convos.

1. Panne
2. Chrom
3. Tiki
4. Lucina
5. Tharja

 

[Hokori]

Speaking of, it was her birthday yesterday. ( ' ▽ ')/
Marrying Tiki to Robin feels wrong for me.

It's because I'm a pre-Blazing Sword fan. I have a hard time not associating her with her image of over 20 years. She's always just going to be that cute, tiny, though powerful, manakete. The last of the divine dragons. I guess it would be easier for people who associate her with her older and more elegant form, though.

That's completely understandable. To be honest, I've been feeling the same for awhile until I've played through Awakening enough to the point where the look stuck. Though, playing through some DLC/Spotpass maps and seeing her little and referring to Marth as "Mar Mar" takes me back...And going back and playing some of the older games again is just going to make things harder. Still, for my next playthrough I will make it happen because I don't want Tiki to be alone. Breaks my heart

 

[Hong]

So after some AHEM remarks on my avatar, I looked through some of the other stuff from the same artist and I found this.

Spoiler

Ruined forever.

Being a fan who started with Awakening (I now have three games though ), I obviously associate with the older Tiki far more than with the younger. Reading up on and seeing the younger her seems like a very interesting glimpse into the past though. Something I'm kind of loving about starting to play through the franchise a bit backwards. It's really nice seeing her Awakening support conversations, then getting the chance to relive what she recollects. It just feels so.. tied in. I love it.

Yeah. ^~^ In this sense, it makes Awakening the perfect point of entry. It has Fire Emblem history ALL over it.

Tiki
Risen, possible reference to FE2/FE8
The 12 Dreadlords of the Jugdral saga
The Taguel being a clear variant of the Laguz
Lots of dialogue references
And of course the fact it's a sequel to Mystery of the Emblem

None of this counts DLC, which uses many of the old maps, music, and of course characters.

Tiki is something special. Her popularity far exceeded her games for the Japanese fan-base. It's no surprise that the developer would bring her back for Awakening, since I don't doubt they love her as well. I am so happy that she has a trophy, and I hope she is an Assist Trophy as well.