Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Hong]

WHY DID YOU DELETE THE POST WITH THE MOST INFO POSTED!!! NOW HOW WILL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT I WANT CHROM THE FALCHION WIELDING AVATAR PLAYABLE!!!

You double-posted, so I merged your posts. I apologize if you were already editing it at the same time, but the double post would had had to been deleted regardless.

 

[Narwalgod]

You double-posted, so I merged your posts. I apologize if you were already editing it at the same time, but the double post would had had to been deleted regardless.

UUUGGHHHH, fine master....

 

[False Sense]

UUUGGHHHH, fine master....

And now we have 100 pages. : )

 

[Reginleif]

And now we have 100 pages. : )

 

[Weeman]

And now we have 100 pages. : )

I'm jamming Smash Mouth to celebrate

 

[Hong]

SmashBoards is going to be so funny if/when another Fire Emblem character is revealed.

 

[Reginleif]

SmashBoards is going to be so funny if/when another Fire Emblem character is revealed.

I can already picture the meltdowns.

 

[Hokori]

Ha, I go away for awhile and come back to see Kermit is still around on page 99. You guys are wonderful. Allow me to introduce Kermit to page 100

SmashBoards is going to be so funny if/when another Fire Emblem character is revealed.

We'll probably get the experience of how things were during the Smash Direct and E3. Smashboards will go night-night for a little while.

 

[AustarusIV]

SmashBoards is going to be so funny if/when another Fire Emblem character is revealed.

Imagine if it's Chrom as a collectable trophy.

"Pic of the day. Here we have another trophy to add to our collection, and I'm sure you all know him. It's the hero of Ylisse, Chrom from Fire Emblem: Awakening!! And here you all thought he was a shoo-in because of some leak that I've been hearing about."

...Yeah.

 

[Narwalgod]

And now we have 100 pages. : )

Narwalgod folks! Praise him. PRAISE HIM!!!!

 

[Hong]

Please be Eliwood.

Also disconfirm the Awakening trio in the screenshots for the character.

I just want to see what happens.

 

[Narwalgod]

Please be Eliwood.

Also disconfirm the Awakening trio in the screenshots for the character.

I just want to see what happens.

The end hong... The end....

 

[False Sense]

Imagine if it's Chrom as a collectable trophy.

"Pic of the day. Here we have another trophy to add to our collection, and I'm sure you all know him. It's the hero of Ylisse, Chrom from Fire Emblem: Awakening!! And here you all thought he was a shoo-in because of some leak that I've been hearing about."

...Yeah.

I'm sure that those who believe the leak to be absolute will say Sakurai is just messing with us by showing Chrom's character trophy.

 

[Hong]

Sakurai seems to like Wrys a lot.

 

[Narwalgod]

I'm sure that those who believe the leak to be absolute will say Sakurai is just messing with us by showing Chrom's character trophy.

Sakurai could confirm chrom as an assist trophy, and they'd still think Sal is real.

 

[FlareHabanero]

ITT: Kermit

 

[IronFish]

I'm sure that those who believe the leak to be absolute will say Sakurai is just messing with us by showing Chrom's character trophy.

"Sakurai is just messing with us, it absolutely deconfirmed Wonder Red, but Chrom's special"

 

[Narwalgod]

ITT: Kermit

What?

 

[Hong]

There's always the possibility we will have a new Roy; someone to star in a title deep under wraps.

But between Code Name STEAM and SMT x FE, I doubt IS will be able to release another Fire Emblem in the next two years minimum,

 

[Narwalgod]

There's always the possibility we will have a new Roy; someone to star in a title deep under wraps.

But between Code Name STEAM and SMT x FE, I doubt IS will be able to release another Fire Emblem in the next two years minimum,

SmtxFE Is the new Fire Emblem! -Intelligent Systems

 

[Hong]

SmtxFE Is the new Fire Emblem! -Intelligent Systems

 

[AustarusIV]

There's always the possibility we will have a new Roy; someone to star in a title deep under wraps.

But between Code Name STEAM and SMT x FE, I doubt IS will be able to release another Fire Emblem in the next two years minimum,

I figured that Fire Emblem Awakening would be enough to satisfy most fans until the next installment comes out 2-3 years from now. It's not my favorite FE game, but it has the most replay value aside from FE7 (which is my favorite FE).

 

[Reginleif]

Watch Sakurai deny unconfirmed veterans like

 

[Narwalgod]

Watch Sakurai deny unconfirmed veterans like

I dont understand. Please make me understand.

 

[AustarusIV]

Please be Eliwood.

Also disconfirm the Awakening trio in the screenshots for the character.

I just want to see what happens.

I had this mental image of Eliwood looking at the three Awakening newcomers as they all turned into collectable trophies, destroying any illusions of them being prospective newcomers.

 

[Delzethin]

Ladies and gentlemen...the scales have been tipped. We are now the #3 character thread on the site. This meteoric rise is one hell of an accomplishment, and I'm actually kind of proud to be part of it.

Let no one say Robin has no support!

Going into game design was the first thing I did when I got out of high school, and while for 2010-2013 I have not been involved with anything that has shipped besides my focused feedback with Blizzard an some personal projects, just this year I picked up a new gig that I hope I can talk about in about four years or so year when we're ready to promote it.

While this isn't related to your post, I'll say it here anyway. The three reasons why I don't put too much stock in the Gematsu leak, aside from the fact it is objectively partial:

1) No game in history has ever gone as planned
There is NO WAY you can ever have all the characters, features, stages, etc. work out as planned. Especially within the first year, things that sounded awesome in paper just don't work as you had hoped. For example, for all we know they could have planned to have Chrom replace Ike, but decided against it. Even the most experienced, most prestigious developers in the industry have to adapt their flow as they move along. It's just a natural part of the process, and there's nothing wrong with it.

2) Sakurai is stubborn, but still volatile
Related to the above. While this isn't related to my experience and knowledge of game design, it is related to Sakurai.

Sakurai claims the roster had been decided from the beginning, and this is true; but it is nigh impossible to be set in stone. Every single one of his games, from Kirby to Smash Bros, has unused content, proof of things removed, things partially added, and he even talks about things that don't work. This is a part of the game design process. The "Forbidden Seven" is a popular example, but it goes way deeper than that. To think Melee could have had Leif and not Roy, Lucas and not Ness. There is no doubt they were on a design document from the start, too.

As stubborn as Sakurai is, even he has had to change his plans all the time. That said, with Brawl he clearly bit more than he could chew, and he is likely avoid it with Smash 4. That is why he would try to have a stricter plan from the beginning and stick to it from the beginning.

3) A lot of people will have information that are not touching the game
As I have mentioned before, even with a top secret project like Smash Bros, a lot of hands will be touching this information. The fact it gets leaked so close to when it is revealed, and the leaker used a term specifically for the English localization, supports the fact it's not anyone involved with the development team themselves.

The first and likely possibility is the leaker is someone who screens the content at e3. Since, you know, it will be seen by thousands in person and millions around the world, hundreds of thousands of those watching it live. The second possibility is someone involved with licensing, since even if you are using an IP that is 100% internal and owned by Nintendo, there is still lots of paperwork involved, which is heavily reflected by all the text you will see under the title screen of a Smash Bros game. And of course the last possibility is someone at any level of marketing. While I doubt someone from Treehouse is a leaker, with such a massive marketing department, Nintendo like any company will send things to marketing when they need them to work their magic. With an IP as big and important as Smash Bros, they will need to get everything they can on top of it to make it good and make it fast.

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And it's not even like I'm reaching here because I don't want Chrom or something, because all I care about is whether or not the game is good. Whether we get Chrom, Robin, Lucina or who ever, nothing definitively makes them a good character until I have seen them in motion. I have just been around for so long to painfully watch how badly people can blunder in their speculations of Smash 4.

You don't even need to be involved with game design to be able to think about this, really. Even if the leak had said Robin and not Chrom, I wouldn't let it affect my speculation. Critical thinking would not allow me to place any stock in it unless I have seen a working build of the character late (2014) in development, or until the product has shipped.

Quoted partially so it'd get more attention, but also because I actually did not know Leif was originally planned to be in Melee. Does anyone have any more details?

Leif being considered for Melee has implications here, y'see. He might've ran the chance of being similar to Marth, but considering he starts Thracia 776 with a weapon that lets him attack from a distance, and considering how in Geneaology of the Holy War his promoted class lets him use a ton of weapon types, he might've been intended to be unique. That would mean Fire Emblem was originally going to join Smash with two unique characters, putting it up alongside the Kirby series getting two in Brawl, and ever-so-slightly increasing the chance of Fire Emblem getting two new reps again.

There's also the fact that Leif was replaced. It might've been because Roy's game was coming out soon...but it might've also been because it was easier to copy Marth's moves for Roy than it would've been for Leif, saving them crucial time. Either way, it means a character was definitely replaced mid-development.

And if they're still willing to replace characters, and if they still care about character uniqueness, and since we know now that Sakurai is actually a fan of Fire Emblem and would know a lot about Awakening...

 

[Minato Arisato]

Narwalgod folks! Praise him. PRAISE HIM!!!!

...That reminds me of a rather disturbing Doctor Who episode I saw recently. *shudders*

 

[ThunderSageNun]

happy 100 page, we know this wouldn't have been possible without Kermit.
Anywho, it'd be quite shocking to see anyone outside of the 4 debated possible Awakening newcomers join the new Smash Bros, but ehhh, I did say I would like someone different from Chrom or Lucina, so I guess I can't go back after that
No Panne or Yanne pls

 

[Delzethin]

I wouldn't mind seeing one of the taguel as an assist trophy or something...or even just a regular trophy.

 

[Inawordyes]

And now we're ahead of the Bandanna Dee thread. Not much longer till we reach 100 pages.

Yay, we made it!

Anyways, Robin's a cool dude[ette]

 

[JaidynReiman]

So, with today's Pic of the Day, I'm REALLY starting to think the Colosseum does have a stage hazard or, more likely, a boss character we haven't seen yet. The Colosseum stage is a bit basic, its the perfect stage to add a stage boss to.

 

[AustarusIV]

So, with today's Pic of the Day, I'm REALLY starting to think the Colosseum does have a stage hazard or, more likely, a boss character we haven't seen yet. The Colosseum stage is a bit basic, its the perfect stage to add a stage boss to.

Are you suggesting that Robin (or rather, Grima) should be the Coliseum's Boss Hazard?

 

[Delzethin]

I wouldn't be surprised if a few (red) enemy units showed up sometimes.

 

[Reginleif]

Robin should know Rally Spectrum . blind the opponents with rainbows

 

[IronFish]

Robin should know Rally Spectrum . blind the opponents with rainbows

I think it would be a self buff like WFT's deep breathing

 

[jaytalks]

I just liked it for showing Elijah Burke.

For the coliseum, it would be cool if we got different level of enemies. Like we got a level 1 enemy that dies immediately, a level 10 enemy that takes a bit of time, and a level 20 enemy that it's best to avoid, but still beatable.

 

[Delzethin]

For the coliseum, it would be cool if we got different level of enemies. Like we got a level 1 enemy that dies immediately, a level 10 enemy that takes a bit of time, and a level 20 enemy that it's best to avoid, but still beatable.

Going off that, they could use the three base weapon classes: a Soldier (weak), a Fighter (medium), and a Swordmaster (strong). They could use the enemy designs from Radiant Dawn, since it's the most recent console Fire Emblem, the character models are the most detailed, and because the Swordmasters in that game looked badass as hell. >_> Maybe they could even mix things up a little occasionally and give one of the Fighters a Hand Axe or one of the Swordmasters a Storm Sword to let them attack from a distance.

 

[Drakonis]

Not counting palettes, what kind of costumes would everyone like to see?

Grandmaster?

Dark Mage?

Well, my choice would be hooded, unhooded for both genders and grandmaster for both genders.
Add in different hairstyles/colours and I think we're pretty much at the limit of what we can do. Especially if we'd have to switch through all the recolored options with the x and y buttons again. Don't wanna sift through 20 or more options just to find the one I like.

 

[IronFish]

Completely relevant

 

[Snagrio]

Yeah! I'm in the 100th page club!