Tiers R' 4 Queers

[Jxe]

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What is the problem with tiers. People are using Meta Knight too much. Thanks to tiers people are using MK and he is a [insert rude name here]. I personally think MK is cool but sometimes he can be a [insert rude comment here]. I think the tiers should stop continuing. And remember Captain Falcon's motto "Any time not spent kneeing, is time better spent kneeing". I rest my case.

 

[brinboy789]

tiers EXIST. its a fact. can you compare MK to falcon? snake to ganon?

 

[Jxe]

tiers EXIST. its a fact. can you compare MK to falcon? snake to ganon?

Nope. But at least don't make them so ***s who like to use MK will stop so at least people will try different characters, not gay little, Meta Knight.

 

[Skrah]

Dude, tiers just measure the character's ability to do better. If people want to be tier-***s then its up to them. Honestly in melee I use link, which is like at the bottom tier, and idc that it is so low, cause I like link.

So if you hate MK's, just beat them, and show them that other characters can win too. Or evolve your character's metagame so they become better.

 

[Cinder]

Tiers only apply to competetive play...don't like 'em? Don't play competitively...can't resist? Then suck it up...

Besides, even if tiers didn't exist, people would figure out "oh, hey, Meta-Knight's REALLY good...I think I'll use him"...

 

[Jxe]

Tiers only apply to competetive play...don't like 'em? Don't play competitively...can't resist? Then suck it up...

Besides, even if tiers didn't exist, people would figure out "oh, hey, Meta-Knight's REALLY good...I think I'll use him"...

I think you mean QUEERS will figure out "oh, hey, Meta-Knight's REALLY good...I think I'll use him"...

 

[Vyse]

lol, complaining won't change the tiers.

Jxe, tiers don't make the character good. Players make the character good. The characters that do well in tournaments, will rank highly on the tier list.

If Captain Falcon started winning high level tournaments (meaning tournaments with notable players in attendance), then he would be very high on the tier list instead of rock bottom.

But the fact remains that Falcon is outclassed by the majority of characters in Brawl.

 

[Jxe]

lol, complaining won't change the tiers.

Jxe, tiers don't make the character good. Players make the character good. The characters that do well in tournaments, will rank highly on the tier list.

If Captain Falcon started winning high level tournaments (meaning tournaments with notable players in attendance), then he would be very high on the tier list instead of rock bottom.

But the fact remains that Falcon is outclassed by the majority of characters in Brawl.

SAKURAIIIIIIIII!!! Can you believe what he said about CF
"This time around, he’s bringing his pride and joy, the F-Zero machine called the Blue Falcon, to the brawl. This inclusion ought to boost his macho, tough-guy reputation significantly."

 

[Liex Link]

You got the saying from that gay video on Newgrounds, am I right?

 

[swordmaster592]

I don't care much for tiers. I use Captain Falcon anyway.

If the Tiers bother you, don't let em'. Their just numbers, and numbers can't top skill. You can beat MKs with CFs if you work hard enough.

In short, you have to ask yourself the question "WHO CARES?"

 

[justaway12]

If you don't like it don't listen to it but alot of people want to see how high their characters are and they're not getting rid of it so deal with it.

 

[Firus]

I think you mean QUEERS will figure out "oh, hey, Meta-Knight's REALLY good...I think I'll use him"...

*Sigh* You sound like an intense Brawl noob. Lurk moar or get off. FACTUALLY, tiers exist. FACTUALLY, MK is better than Captain Falcon. This is from tournament results and from overall gameplay. That's not to say that lower-tiered characters CANNOT be good; otherwise MK would consistently win tournies with few cases otherwise. But he is better than the other characters. If you want to live in ignorance with the rest of the Brawl noobs pretending to be cool by saying that idiotic, cliched phrase, good for you. Keep it off of here.

People who play to win might look to the fact that MK is at the top of the tier list to use him. I personally think it's stupid to default to the tier list for everything, but it's not bad to use as a reference, especially once it's been improved over time.

SAKURAIIIIIIIII!!! Can you believe what he said about CF
"This time around, he’s bringing his pride and joy, the F-Zero machine called the Blue Falcon, to the brawl. This inclusion ought to boost his macho, tough-guy reputation significantly."

I don't get what your point is here, but if you're HONESTLY trying to use Sakurai, of all people, as an argument for Captain Falcon not being as bad as tiers say, you are even more stupid than I thought. I don't care if he created the game or not. Sakurai likely plays on Rumble Falls with all items on, where it's impossible to tell who's actually better.

Not to mention that people who like Falcon are going to be less inclined to buy a game if he says "He's the worst character in the roster, he sucks!" C.F. was nerfed from Melee, if you deny it you probably didn't play Melee or are just plain ignorant.

This is exactly why '08ers got such a bad rep. Because there are idiots like you that have limited knowledge of Smash, and little to no knowledge about competitive Smash. And because of that, '08er hate won't just be a fad because '08ers were noobs. Thanks. Thanks a lot.

I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about competitive Smash myself, but at least I know where I don't know enough to shut up.

 

[Teran]

Idiots have been around since the dawn of time. It's just a **** shame a load of them had to join in 08 and f*** up the credibility of anything us intelligent ones say because of bulls*** like this. Firus, I feel your pain, but what are we to do?

 

[Jimnymebob]

tires don exits

I've always wanted to say that


Anyway, tiers aren't for queers. I could go into a debate with you now, but Firus has covered that.

I never liked Meta Knight, before and after I knew he was top tier, due tot the fact that he didn't suit my playstyle. After I got better, I realised that Jigglypuff now sucked, so I tried out, and found out he had similar aerial capabilities, but was less laggy, and could rack up damage quick, and with ease.

No matter what the tiers show, it's all based off personal preference.
We don't care if you main a low tier character in all honesty, people who do aren't "queers", which I am guessing you're using in the sense of strange and/or peculiar, not homosexual, as that would clearly highlight your already obvious arrogance.

 

[Clone Z]

There's a reason why people use high tier characters.

It's because they're good...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I stick with my Dedede, though he's only an A tier, mostly because I enjoy playing as him.

But I can assure you, the tiers do exist. Programmers can't perfectly balance as many characters that are in brawl while giving them all different movesets and stats. Even if they somehow can, people who buy the game can find ways of playing the character different than the programmers thought of, which shifts the balance.

 

[swordmaster592]

*Sigh* You sound like an intense Brawl noob. Lurk moar or get off. FACTUALLY, tiers exist. FACTUALLY, MK is better than Captain Falcon. This is from tournament results and from overall gameplay. That's not to say that lower-tiered characters CANNOT be good; otherwise MK would consistently win tournies with few cases otherwise. But he is better than the other characters. If you want to live in ignorance with the rest of the Brawl noobs pretending to be cool by saying that idiotic, cliched phrase, good for you. Keep it off of here.

People who play to win might look to the fact that MK is at the top of the tier list to use him. I personally think it's stupid to default to the tier list for everything, but it's not bad to use as a reference, especially once it's been improved over time.



I don't get what your point is here, but if you're HONESTLY trying to use Sakurai, of all people, as an argument for Captain Falcon not being as bad as tiers say, you are even more stupid than I thought. I don't care if he created the game or not. Sakurai likely plays on Rumble Falls with all items on, where it's impossible to tell who's actually better.

Not to mention that people who like Falcon are going to be less inclined to buy a game if he says "He's the worst character in the roster, he sucks!" C.F. was nerfed from Melee, if you deny it you probably didn't play Melee or are just plain ignorant.

This is exactly why '08ers got such a bad rep. Because there are idiots like you that have limited knowledge of Smash, and little to no knowledge about competitive Smash. And because of that, '08er hate won't just be a fad because '08ers were noobs. Thanks. Thanks a lot.

I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about competitive Smash myself, but at least I know where I don't know enough to shut up.

Are you aware that you sounded like a huge ******* when you said that?

I could only find one FACT among your list of insults towards him, the man who helped CREATE Brawl, and a slew of other people.

So if you want to be an arrogant prick and mock peoples intelligence
thinking your SOOO much smarter than them, good for you. Keep it off here.

 

[Grey Belnades]

tiers are for queers, anyone who believes a list that ranks your characters from top to bottom is just dumb, as for the comment about metaknight being better than c.falcon, it depends on who is using the character and how much skill that person has.

 

[Denzi]

To the OP:

People use MK because he's good. It's not teirs that make him good. Therefore, even if teirs didn't exist, people would still use Metaknight.

Your arguement is invalid.

Spoiler

Yeah logic the ****

 

[Ninjaneos]

tiers don't matter much, as long as your good with a character thats best for you then play as him/her.

Falconnnnn!!!!!!!! punch!!!!!!!!

 

[Dark Hart]

Are you aware that you sounded like a huge ******* when you said that?

I could only find one FACT among your list of insults towards him, the man who helped CREATE Brawl, and a slew of other people.

So if you want to be an arrogant prick and mock peoples intelligence
thinking your SOOO much smarter than them, good for you. Keep it off here.

Who cares how he said it if he got his point across. Besides, this guy deserves it. How many people who come here saying "TR4Q guys stop playing MK and choose Link!!!!!" aren't going to get flamed? All Firus is trying to do is get his point across and prove this Jxe guy wrong using the facts. Yeah, it's going to sound mean, but that's what happens when people argue things that have been argued before and been proven wrong before. Tiers exist, we all know it. Tires don exits has been argued before. Hell, I was about to say the exact same thing to Jxe until I saw that Firus had already done it.

 

[Dark Hart]

tiers are for queers, anyone who believes a list that ranks your characters from top to bottom is just dumb, as for the comment about metaknight being better than c.falcon, it depends on who is using the character and how much skill that person has.

Double post, but my 8 year old cousin who'd never played Brawl before beat my Captain Falcon with MK first time. 'nuff said.

 

[DemonFart]

tiers don't matter much, as long as your good with a character thats best for you then play as him/her.

Falconnnnn!!!!!!!! punch!!!!!!!!

well lets say that there is a expert MK and a expert falcon, even though they are both good with their character the MK has a bigger chance of winning because he is just a better character in general, i know many people hate tiers but too bad really, tier lists will continue to be made and life goes on, remember that its just a game.....

@swordmaster592: good job man, that firus guy really annoys me, he is way too stuck-up

 

[swordmaster592]

I think we should all just accept the fact that tiers exist, and if we don't like them, we ignore them. Do they really matter?


On a side note, whats with the whining about ppl saying the phrase "Tiers R for queers" I believe the phrase "THE BIG GAY DANCE" Is use a MILLION times more.

 

[The furosious robot has left]

Are you aware that you sounded like a huge ******* when you said that?

I could only find one FACT among your list of insults towards him, the man who helped CREATE Brawl, and a slew of other people.

So if you want to be an arrogant prick and mock peoples intelligence
thinking your SOOO much smarter than them, good for you. Keep it off here.

It's not that we're "SOOO" much smarter than them, it's that they're "SOOO" much dumber than us.Want another "FACT"? TIERS DO EXIST. litterally, competetively, and casually.

He is "SOOO" much smarter than they are.So am I. But you sir, are not.
Get your FACTS straight before you get your flame bait. Firus put it better than I did.

You know what?
Quote for truth:

I think you mean QUEERS will figure out "oh, hey, Meta-Knight's REALLY good...I think I'll use him"...

*Sigh* You sound like an intense Brawl noob. Lurk moar or get off. FACTUALLY, tiers exist. FACTUALLY, MK is better than Captain Falcon. This is from tournament results and from overall gameplay. That's not to say that lower-tiered characters CANNOT be good; otherwise MK would consistently win tournies with few cases otherwise. But he is better than the other characters. If you want to live in ignorance with the rest of the Brawl noobs pretending to be cool by saying that idiotic, cliched phrase, good for you. Keep it off of here.

People who play to win might look to the fact that MK is at the top of the tier list to use him. I personally think it's stupid to default to the tier list for everything, but it's not bad to use as a reference, especially once it's been improved over time.

SAKURAIIIIIIIII!!! Can you believe what he said about CF
"This time around, he’s bringing his pride and joy, the F-Zero machine called the Blue Falcon, to the brawl. This inclusion ought to boost his macho, tough-guy reputation significantly."

I don't get what your point is here, but if you're HONESTLY trying to use Sakurai, of all people, as an argument for Captain Falcon not being as bad as tiers say, you are even more stupid than I thought. I don't care if he created the game or not. Sakurai likely plays on Rumble Falls with all items on, where it's impossible to tell who's actually better.

Not to mention that people who like Falcon are going to be less inclined to buy a game if he says "He's the worst character in the roster, he sucks!" C.F. was nerfed from Melee, if you deny it you probably didn't play Melee or are just plain ignorant.

This is exactly why '08ers got such a bad rep. Because there are idiots like you that have limited knowledge of Smash, and little to no knowledge about competitive Smash. And because of that, '08er hate won't just be a fad because '08ers were noobs. Thanks. Thanks a lot.

I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about competitive Smash myself, but at least I know where I don't know enough to shut up.

 

[Pelikinesis]

tiers are for queers, anyone who believes a list that ranks your characters from top to bottom is just dumb, as for the comment about metaknight being better than c.falcon, it depends on who is using the character and how much skill that person has.

yummy ignorance.......

it's practically decadent.

 

[swordmaster592]

It's not that we're "SOOO" much smarter than them, it's that they're "SOOO" much dumber than us.Want another "FACT"? TIERS DO EXIST. litterally, competetively, and casually.

He is "SOOO" much smarter than they are.So am I. But you sir, are not.
Get your FACTS straight before you get your flame bait. Firus put it better than I did.

You know what?
Quote for truth:

Wow, It's like there's a guild of arrogant *******s on these forums.

We have explained a thousand times over that tiers exist and most have accepted it. You just want to flame some more, because your upset that you can't get in your last laugh.

There's a name fo people like you and Firus: Griefers.

Now I REALLY dont want to keep this conflict up, let's keep it clean here, pleas?

 

[kr3wman]

Of course it depends on the amount of the skill both person have.

But that's not what we're talking about in a tier list.

We're comparing characters to characters as if both opponents had equal experience in a tournament setting playing to win in high level of play.

YOU SEE THE PART ''WITH EQUAL EXPERIENCE''? OF COURSE YOU DON'T.

I USE LOGIC WITH MY ARGUMENTS.

GG.

 

[§leepy God]

Spoiler

TIERS DON EXIST

Are you making just tier threads Jxe?

 

[Firus]

Idiots have been around since the dawn of time. It's just a **** shame a load of them had to join in 08 and f*** up the credibility of anything us intelligent ones say because of bulls*** like this. Firus, I feel your pain, but what are we to do?

There's not much we can do except hope that most people will check more than just join date before they write people off. Not that I could blame them if they didn't.

Are you aware that you sounded like a huge ******* when you said that?

I could only find one FACT among your list of insults towards him, the man who helped CREATE Brawl, and a slew of other people.

So if you want to be an arrogant prick and mock peoples intelligence
thinking your SOOO much smarter than them, good for you. Keep it off here.

I don't think I'm so much smarter than most people except for him. Ironically, you're calling me a ******* when this guy is being a bigot by using the phrase "Tiers are for queers". And then acting as if being a "queer", or being homosexual, is something good to insult people with. Either that or he's just picked up on the trend of that stupid phrase and hasn't really considered what it MEANS.

Also, do you think I care that I insulted Sakurai? He did help create Brawl. He was the driving force behind everything it is. And I hate Brawl. Why should I hold off on a man who is basically a communist in is game perspective and ruined the game's fun for me? I respect the fact that he could create as massive a game as he did, but I do NOT respect the way he went about it.

Again. I don't think I'm that intelligent. I'm just pretty sure he's an ignorant Brawl noob. Brawl noobs are annoying. Call me an arrogant prick if you really want.

tiers are for queers, anyone who believes a list that ranks your characters from top to bottom is just dumb, as for the comment about metaknight being better than c.falcon, it depends on who is using the character and how much skill that person has.

It's not 100% accurate, but it is true to an extent. If a pro plays a Falcon versus someone who just picked up the game with MK, the pro can probably win. But if two equally skilled people play, the Falcon has very low odds of winning. The list wasn't compiled on a whim. The Smash BRoom came up with the tier list using tourney results and overall abilities of the character.

@swordmaster592: good job man, that firus guy really annoys me, he is way too stuck-up

You just think I'm stuck-up because I didn't find your stupid joke(/spam) blog funny.

Just because the blog section is slightly looser than the rest of the forums does NOT give you an excuse to spam. Unfortunately, the blogs have devolved into a lot of spamming.

Wow, It's like there's a guild of arrogant *******s on these forums.

If you're so offended by us, then why don't you leave?

There's a name fo people like you and Firus: Griefers.

I'm not a griefer. I just don't like ignorant people who think they're all that when they clearly don't know much about Smash. I don't pretend to be a genius on the subject but the "Tiers R 4 Queers" argument has been done to death. If you want to use an argument like that and have it be respected, go to GameFAQs. Not a competitive Smash site.

Now I REALLY dont want to keep this conflict up, let's keep it clean here, pleas?

You're right, just insult us and tell us to keep it clean. Ugh.

In retrospect, it would've been better to sit by the sidelines and laugh rather than get involved. There's no way I'm going to win this argument with you.

 

[DemonFart]

firus you annoy me because even though i tell you not to respond to the last comment i wrote, you did anyway saying "go away,blah blah blah" when i clearly told you to go away. its my opinion so if you annoying to me there really is nothing you can do about it.
please dont start a argument.
just dont reply to this.

 

[Firus]

firus you annoy me because even though i tell you not to respond to the last comment i wrote, you did anyway saying "go away,blah blah blah" when i clearly told you to go away. its my opinion so if you annoying to me there really is nothing you can do about it.
please dont start a argument.
just dont reply to this.

Believe it or not, you don't have supreme rule or any sort of authority over me whatsoever. So the fact that you told me not to reply to you after you said to go away (when, by the way, I told you to go away before that, in case you honestly think you can validly complain against me for that) doesn't matter, nor does it matter that you told me not to reply to this. Don't tell people who don't agree with you who annoy you to not reply. If you don't want them to correspond, don't speak to them in the first place.

I don't give a crap what your opinion about me is. I don't want to do anything about you thinking I'm annoying. I have no desire to. I'm just saying that you've really got no legitimate reason to think I'm annoying other than the fact that I called you out on a stupid, spammy blog. And then you proceeded to post comments on my profile and got irked when I replied.

 

[swordmaster592]

You know what? Shut up. All of you just shut up. I should shut up too because this getting way out of hand. This isn't a thread, It's a flame war. We should all just shut the hell up, drop the argument, and resume with our foruming. Isn't that whata forum is about? To be part of a community?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to leave before all your Prickery and my own Prickery drives me over the edge.

 

[The furosious robot has left]

firus you annoy me because even though i tell you not to respond to the last comment i wrote, you did anyway saying "go away,blah blah blah" when i clearly told you to go away. its my opinion so if you annoying to me there really is nothing you can do about it.
please dont start a argument.
just dont reply to this.

Flame Bait.

Well, if it is your opinon, than don't go trotting around and claiming it to be factual.

PSeople of higher intelligence (Or in this case, people not lacking intelligence) have DEBATES. DEBATES use facts and proof. arguments are where you say "Tiers Are For Queers" as if That is a reasonable insult. True, I am weary of homosexuals, but If somebody called me Queer, I could Just prove them false. But somebody like you would try to think Queer as some form of stupidy of ignorance. You don't need to be queer to be stupid. you reinforce this rather well.

Edit:Facepalm @ moron above me.
that last statement was quite hypocritical as well as idiotic.

 

[DemonFart]

what the hell?!
dude just stop, its over
lets just stop spamming this thread now.

 

[SkylerOcon]

firus you annoy me because even though i tell you not to respond to the last comment i wrote, you did anyway saying "go away,blah blah blah" when i clearly told you to go away. its my opinion so if you annoying to me there really is nothing you can do about it.
please dont start a argument.
just dont reply to this.

If you post an opinion where anybody can read it, then they have a right to comment on it. You don't really expect the world to be all roses, sunshine, and la-la-la-la-lets-all-get-along-with-DemonFart do you?

 

[Lawz.]

just forget it

 

[Firus]

You know what? Shut up. All of you just shut up. I should shut up too because this getting way out of hand. This isn't a thread, It's a flame war. We should all just shut the hell up, drop the argument, and resume with our foruming. Isn't that whata forum is about? To be part of a community?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to leave before all your Prickery and my own Prickery drives me over the edge.

Good for you.

Flame Bait.

Well, if it is your opinon, than don't go trotting around and claiming it to be factual.

PSeople of higher intelligence (Or in this case, people not lacking intelligence) have DEBATES. DEBATES use facts and proof. arguments are where you say "Tiers Are For Queers" as if That is a reasonable insult. True, I am weary of homosexuals, but If somebody called me Queer, I could Just prove them false. But somebody like you would try to think Queer as some form of stupidy of ignorance. You don't need to be queer to be stupid. you reinforce this rather well.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Lawz.]

Flame Bait.

Well, if it is your opinon, than don't go trotting around and claiming it to be factual.

PSeople of higher intelligence (Or in this case, people not lacking intelligence) have DEBATES. DEBATES use facts and proof. arguments are where you say "Tiers Are For Queers" as if That is a reasonable insult. True, I am weary of homosexuals, but If somebody called me Queer, I could Just prove them false. But somebody like you would try to think Queer as some form of stupidy of ignorance. You don't need to be queer to be stupid. you reinforce this rather well.

Edit:Facepalm @ moron above me.
that last statement was quite hypocritical as well as idiotic.

nobody in this thread had FACTUAL crap anyway. don't act like an innocent little goody goody two shoe. you kinda have a hypocritical statement too pal. this thread had no debates either so be quiet

 

[DemonFart]

allright great. just end this and dont post again and hopefully it gets closed.