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It is indeed possible to footstool MK out of his glide, it is a devastating option. MK should try to do the reverse shuttle loop from under the stage imo.
What actually changed here is that you can now conditionally not pass through platforms during an aerial teleport by releasing the downwards input within a certain timeframe. The old rules about not being able to teleport through platforms while standing on them still apply, sadly. It also puts you into the super laggy grounded landing animation when you land on said platform, so... yeah. Edge cancel shenanigans maybe, if somebody actually puts in work on Mewtwo's tech in 3.5.
If you're talking about using the reverse hit, that sounds much harder than footstooling him (which is already fairly difficult against an intelligent Yoshi who is playing around it). If you talking about just raw upBing into him...eh. Probly would knock him too high to be an effective kill option, and could potentially leave Roy very vulnerable afterwards.@Sethlon
You're trying to footstool metaknight and I'm busy wondering why you don't use up-B to hit Yoshi out of his doublejump instead of footstool
What are you doing
But it isnt a wild guess if you combo into a footstool. Like Pikachu can uair hitconfirm into footstool, Roy can do like uair > footstool > dair, Yoshi has uair footstool down B, just cool little footstool combos. I think footstools are still super underdeveloped,
Could, but when I do it that normally doesn't happen. It seems like the followup hits of upB only happen if you start the upb from below him, but if you are inside, slightly above, or to the left or right of him, it usually tends to work I think. With that amount of space it's kind of... easier than footstooling, and upB moves faster than his doublejump anyway so you're going to get ledge first if you start at the same time and miss. But Yoshi's recovery is pretty two-dimensional, if he's high up he's gonna egg roll or egg throw, if he's low down he's gonna doublejump. Not much choice for him there.
They are definitely underdeveloped, and your combo examples seem legit. A problem can be that if you want to implement the tech too much you could be sometimes missing more basic and more effective punishes.
Comboing into footstool is pretty easy tbh, you just have to know what leads into it. And knowing when and where to use it is up to the person performing the footstool. It shoots he opponent downwards and sets up for a tech chase, depending on how good you are at following up your footstools the reward can be pretty big.
I won't believe that this works unless I see proof. I feel like they would hit the ground before you could dair them after the footstool. I know ganon down-b after footstool works, but that's a lot faster. That's why wario is so good with footstool, he doesn't have to wait to get ot hte peak of jump then fastfall, he just dairs downward.
I also play more Mewtwo in 3.5 than in 3.02.
http://smashboards.com/threads/qna-...and-watch-thread.331698/page-39#post-18265835
Ness hit the ground, though, and could have teched.
Strawman pls. Here's what I said.
Then he posted a video, and I said
Having a tech chase or a missed tech in a combo doesn't make it not a combo, it makes it not a true combo. Tech chases are great, but you generally want to extend the combo as long as you can when possible. If footstool actually linked to dair, it would be much strong of an option than just footstool leading to a tech chase.
No, it's an analogy.
It's both.
It's a strawman because I never said it wasn't a combo lol.
Keenly aware of this. Just because he can do it doesn't necessarily make it a solid approach option like it was in 3.0, especially against an opponent like ICs with good coverage, a low profile, relative safety against Mewtwo's pressure game, and a tendency to remain grounded in neutral. Hence my emphasis on using teleport (and telehover) for the purpose of positioning.
This post is a strawman.
Actually it would be a Fallacy Fallacy to say it was wrong because it was a strawman, not a strawman to say it was wrong because it was a strawman. No I didn't type fallacy twice accidentally. I think that's what you were getting at anyways. If you think literally "it's a strawman to call something a strawman", then you don't really know what a strawman is
