Tier list alternative - Rate the characters! (experienced players only)

[NixxxoN]

lol you guys get some weed and calm down... and of coure dont get off topic

 

[Superstar]

Pikachu - 10

Fox - 9.25
Kirby - 9.0

Mario - 7,5
Jigglypuff - 7,25
Falcon - 7

Yoshi - 5
Luigi: 4.5
Ness: 4.25

DK - 4
Link - 3.75
Samus - 3.5

Maybe part of the reason he is ragging on you is that you put Falcon below Mario. Heck, I main Mario and even I, given the inevitable bias, knows that Falcon > Mario.

And I play keyboard...but I can't DI. Also, johnz can be valid [you kickboxed me in the face], they're still johns.

And Surri, your examples were scrubbing, not johns.

 

[chinson]

lol you guys get some weed and calm down... and of coure dont get off topic

Don't promote marijuana.

 

[Daedatheus]

Heck, I main Mario and even I, given the inevitable bias, knows that Falcon > Mario.

But **** is it hard to juggle that freaking plumber with Falcon!

 

[B Link]

ness needs to be way lower
dk needs to be higher

has anyone even played a decent DK? especially on dreamland?

dreday makes ness look good but actually he sucks =(

sam is definitely low, and link

pikachu and kirby are up there no questions asked

the rest is debateable

 

[NixxxoN]

Don't promote marijuana.

I promote flamewar stopping

And I play keyboard...but I can't DI.

lulz, just do button mashing, in which direction you think its better.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Don't promote marijuana.

Shut up.

 

[chinson]

Shut up.

I knew i would get this response from you.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Being politically correct online is pointless

 

[Daedatheus]

Being politically correct online is pointless

That, and the posters on the 64 boards are (almost ) all old enough to make choices for themselves...

Back on topic, shall we?

 

[chinson]

you forgot about DK who's a ten

After getting ***** by isai's dk, i agree.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

i call you stupid because you are in fact stupid, stop bringing up smash games to try and prove otherwise...look at MATTS! i bet you he beats lots of people i guess he is smart too.....

i am in pps because i am a good player, and refering me to virus, thats just awesome.
(mind you last time me and him played i beat his pika 3-0, 1-3 stock each match and thats WITH the even more ****ed DI then KB)

as for Johns...a John would be "you grab to much" &" laser spam is stupid"
"you can escape combos that normally would be inescapable" is not a john its a reason


allmost every time you post you say something even more stupid then the next...

"still in PpS is because of your show in that crew battle and the fact that you like me do well in doubles"

Teams??? WTF i don't even ever play teams if you knew half of what you where talking about you'd be dangerous

First about that intelligence post: "i call you stupid because you are in fact stupid, stop bringing up smash games to try and prove otherwise...look at MATTS! i bet you he beats lots of people i guess he is smart too.....".....I graduated within the top 20 percent of my class at my high school (of the people who got ranked above me, more than half are going to one of the top 20 schools in the country). I know what the f*** I am talking about. And why do you bring about intelligence in non-smash. This is a smash based board. Did you even read the name of board on what you post?

Learn to combo against people who DI. I am guessing from your response that if you play some person offline and he DI's with an n64 controller like Matt does with keyboard or Virus does with a gamecube controller, you will john to that person that you can only combo vs people who don't DI....as in level 9 cpus.

 

[Daedatheus]

I graduated within the top 20 percent of my class at my high school (of the people who got ranked above me, more than half are going to one of the top 20 schools in the country). I know what the f*** I am talking about.

I get this nagging feeling that some people on Smashboards have never actually lived in the real world outside of Smash games. "I gotz gud marks in skool" haha too good

you will john to that person that you can only combo vs people who don't DI....as in level 9 cpus.

Actually L9 CPUs do DI... they just do the same thing all the time and kinda suck at it.

Now will you two stop flaming before anyone makes an even BIGGER fool of themselves?!?

 

[Gammelnorsk]

craiigg edit.

 

[TokiDoki]

it's over 9000?

 

[Surri-Sama]

First about that intelligence post: "i call you stupid because you are in fact stupid, stop bringing up smash games to try and prove otherwise...look at MATTS! i bet you he beats lots of people i guess he is smart too.....".....I graduated within the top 20 percent of my class at my high school (of the people who got ranked above me, more than half are going to one of the top 20 schools in the country). I know what the f*** I am talking about. And why do you bring about intelligence in non-smash. This is a smash based board. Did you even read the name of board on what you post?

Learn to combo against people who DI. I am guessing from your response that if you play some person offline and he DI's with an n64 controller like Matt does with keyboard or Virus does with a gamecube controller, you will john to that person that you can only combo vs people who don't DI....as in level 9 cpus.

omg i never knew you went to school, **** how could i argue, i am just an inbred newfie D:

no i didn't read the name i was directed here by mistake when i was looking up Dr.Phil

and if you don't know...the whole POINT of why i say your DI is the reason i lose/do worse, is because you CANT get that DI on console, I've seen the top players play, I've kept track of their DI and they don't get out of things like, the first hit of Pikas Fair, 1-2 Utilts from pika, Falcon Uair combos (basic ones) yet you do.

Stop adding in facts (like school grades, book smarts is not the only part of intelligence im afraid, actually knowing what your talking about would help you greatly) that have no relevance. they don't help your argument, they make you look like a ****** xP

Now will you two stop flaming before anyone makes an even BIGGER fool of themselves?!?

meh

 

[Blackshadow]

Can we not go 4 pages without some flame war appearing? Seriously, take it to PM's.

 

[Roche_CL]

Pikachu - 10
Kirby - 9.5
Falcon - 9.5
Fox - 9.0
Ness - 8.5
Mario - 8.5
Jigglypuff - 8.5
DK - 8.0
Luigi - 7.5
Yoshi - 7.0
Link - 6.5
Samus - 6.5

i think falcon should be higher than fox
and also i think is easier to play good falcon than good fox
pika should have 20 xD
c ya

 

[Surri-Sama]

Pikachu - 10
Kirby - 9.5
Falcon - 9.5
Fox - 9.0
Ness - 8.5
Mario - 8.5
Jigglypuff - 8.5
DK - 8.0
Luigi - 7.5
Yoshi - 7.0
Link - 6.5
Samus - 6.5

i think falcon should be higher than fox
and also i think is easier to play good falcon than good fox
pika should have 20 xD
c ya

i can agree with most of this, cept link should be higher then samus, Luigi should be lower and yoshi higher

 

[Daedatheus]

i think falcon should be higher than fox
and also i think is easier to play good falcon than good fox

Tiers aren't decided on who's easier to play as.
Fox should definitely be above Falcon for a multitude of reasons.

 

[†¹Ãgøn¥¹†]

If you talk about levels then let's put it this way:

Fox is better then falcon at the same level, but if you put it the way that a noob falcon is better then a noob fox then yes, it's true. But, a good fox vs a good falcon, Fox got this.

I don,t know if you get it. Simply what i mean is that: It's harder to be good with fox but when you're good with him he's better then a good falcon. Don't know if it's better, lol.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

the actual specific reason why I give fox a higher tier than falcon is due to all of his approach tactics. Fox's lasers, aerials, and throws allow fox to approach a whole lot better than falcon. The only main way for falcon to approach is up smash, short hop aerials, and in certain circumstances throw, Falcon has incredible combos but is so easy to gimp and has no projectile play. Falcon also besides down air combos and random up b's has problems killing characters if he can't 0 to death them. after a while, the up smash and the throw has almost no combos

 

[z33ke]

Pikachu - 10
Fox - 9
Jigglypuff - 9
Kirby - 8
Falcon - 8
Samus- 7
Ness - 7
Mario - 7
Yoshi - 7
DK - 6
Luigi- 6
Link - 6

yes jiggs before kirby and falcon jiggs ROX
and i personally find samus to be better than everyone i put her above, she is by far the most underrated character... shes clearly not the best... but too many people drop her to the bottom of their lists... shes pwns...

I didnt use decimals, i just clumped characters together with the same number to be about the same general skill (depending on whose hands they are in) and the ones that come first in a category i find are slightly better... and thats my list

 

[chinson]

Samus doesn't "pwn" because of her crap recovery and lack of combos whatsoever. Falcon is much better than jiggs because he is incredibly easy to pull off crazy combos with.

 

[Tigerb0mbz]

geez..so many fuktards..yallz arent even good/pro status...da *** outta here

 

[memphischains]

yoshi > pikachu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsd_3hf-QfE

 

[†¹Ãgøn¥¹†]

^ Where does yoshi wins in this vid? Or is it a wrong link? =P

 

[Surri-Sama]

If you talk about levels then let's put it this way:

Fox is better then falcon at the same level, but if you put it the way that a noob falcon is better then a noob fox then yes, it's true. But, a good fox vs a good falcon, Fox got this.

I don,t know if you get it. Simply what i mean is that: It's harder to be good with fox but when you're good with him he's better then a good falcon. Don't know if it's better, lol.

i dont know about this.

Fox does have a way better approach, but his versatility is not even close to that of falcon in higher levels...

Falcon has massive amounts of 0-deaths on fox, on every stage, and in almost every situation, fox does not.

Fox also uses a Drill which makes most of his combos a lot more escape able then falcons.

Falcons spike is also a factor when it comes to finishers, they both have strong ground based finishers, but Falcon has a finisher for almost every combo situation Aerial or Ground based

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

hmmm

i dont know about this.

Fox does have a way better approach, but his versatility is not even close to that of falcon in higher levels...

Falcon has massive amounts of 0-deaths on fox, on every stage, and in almost every situation, fox does not.

Fox also uses a Drill which makes most of his combos a lot more escape able then falcons.

Falcons spike is also a factor when it comes to finishers, they both have strong ground based finishers, but Falcon has a finisher for almost every combo situation Aerial or Ground based

but this is saying specifically for falcon vs. fox. and fox has a multitude of finishers from back air to down smash. and at a higher level, fox's only need a n-air, and up air, a wall, or just a laser combo to fully combo an opponent while falcon has to rush to the opponent.

Also, the tier list doesn't just go for specific matchups but encompasses the entire matchups. falcon does worse vs kirby and pikachu than fox does.

 

[Zantetsu]

Fox has better matchups then falcon imo. Falcon struggles with lightweight characters.

 

[memphischains]

yoshi is the highest tier,

the yoshi i posted in the vid is playing isai, so wtf do you expect.
ifc you can get in contact with isai himself, he would agree with me

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

falcon CAN do okay vs pika, but he's trash against kirby

 

[Dash_Fox]

falcon CAN do okay vs pika, but he's trash against kirby

Fox also sucks vs Kirby. Gimped recovery's man.

 

[†¹Ãgøn¥¹†]

Falcons 0 death combo can be escaped with DI. It's pretty rare that you will get hit by the last hit of the combo such as spike or falcon punch, but the problem is after that with your recovery, now there is a chance to get spiked or gimped by anything.

 

[MattNF]

Fox also sucks vs Kirby. Gimped recovery's man.

LOL no way, Fox ***** Kirby.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Falcons 0 death combo can be escaped with DI. It's pretty rare that you will get hit by the last hit of the combo such as spike or falcon punch, but the problem is after that with your recovery, now there is a chance to get spiked or gimped by anything.

falcons combos are a lot harder to DI out of then Fox's, that's not even an debate xP

 

[NixxxoN]

LOL no way, Fox ***** Kirby.

Don't think he ***** kirby but he definitely does better than Falcon. Kirby is owned by Ness tho.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

if we want to argue about fox and falcon's matchups.....just group them as tied, it will solve all people's problems Lol

 

[TehBo49]

Pikachu-10
Kirby-9.5
Fox-9
Ness-9
Captain Falcon-8.75
Jigglypuff-8.25
Mario-8
Yoshi-7.75
Donkey Kong-7.25
Luigi-7
Link-6
Samus-6

 

[Zantetsu]

if we want to argue about fox and falcon's matchups.....just group them as tied, it will solve all people's problems Lol

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