The Wall - Game End.... no one wins?

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Working on a possible surprise. Give me a second.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Wow this is peculiar. Interesting. Give me a second.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

WOW I forgot. Waller was used on me tonight. That's 2 modvotes ffs.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I knew WTT wasn't mafia;

How ?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

It's hilarious to me that my cleared town slot was made unlynchable.
Because obviously i was first in line to be lynched

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Thanks, that confirms what I thought. And it's relieving to see your slot doing things.

I don't really see anything between Raz and July or Kantrip. The bulk of this is a gut read on Marshy's part, I'm the wordsmith. I have my observations, and what I feel is decent meta. Do you think it's likely that Raz has simply been bullied into inactivity? You have more experience with him.

Anyway, I need a claim from Raz.

"Die before endgame. If you survive to endgame, you lose. MODkills do not count towards this win condition. Keep in mind you still have to beat your global win condition to win"

This is Dark Horse's win condition.

Here's the peculiar thing;

Keep in mind you still have to beat your global win condition to win

Dark Horse said he had another win condition that wasn't a town one, but I should get all win conditions (sans globals) when I investigate someone. I confirmed this with Overswarm when I investigated July.

This leads me to believe that his other global win condition is not a town one. He wouldn't hint towards it this specifically, otherwise, right?

My first wincon is to die (sans modkill.) Unless I fufill my other wincon, if I make it to endgame, I lose. (DH's most recent post)

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Thanks, that confirms what I thought. And it's relieving to see your slot doing things.

I don't really see anything between Raz and July or Kantrip. The bulk of this is a gut read on Marshy's part, I'm the wordsmith. I have my observations, and what I feel is decent meta. Do you think it's likely that Raz has simply been bullied into inactivity? You have more experience with him.

Anyway, I need a claim from Raz.

Dark Horse said he had another win condition that wasn't the town global one***

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

My targets are in the wall posts, btw. I am playerslot number 7. Lucky number. All my crumbs have a reference to luck.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

So seph is some sort of win-con cop.

That is ****-ing legit.

I apologize for hating on your slot at some points this game. (if this is legit)

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Now i want to find kantplays and DH's claims to see if they mentioned this other wincon , plsu DH was just stumbling yesterday on what Exactly his win-con pertained to.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Wow.

@Seph: what were July's wincons then?

and you definitely get all of their non-global wincons?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

Yes. Investigated July.
Luck springs forth, persistent through changed seasons.
Changing seasons, "spring", becomes summoner. July. Farfetched, but if it came down to a wall post mass claim, it would be a good enough explanation and others wouldn't have let me go.

No Hetero
Someone got lucky enough to get me in bed...
full homo

Kary
Old England was lucky enough to be blessed by my presence.

Dark House (referring to me/Xonar's nickname for him)
You'd be lucky to find a light switch in here.



SEPH'S WINCON: SOLVE WALL PUZZLE 4 TOWN // THIS GAME I SWEAR, MAKES ME FROWN // MASSCLAIM? // KILL NH?

This is weird, who found this? I completed my wincon btw.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

"Die before endgame. If you survive to endgame, you lose. MODkills do not count towards this win condition. Keep in mind you still have to beat your global win condition to win"

This is Dark Horse's win condition.

Here's the peculiar thing;

Keep in mind you still have to beat your global win condition to win

Dark Horse said he had another win condition that wasn't a town one, but I should get all win conditions (sans globals) when I investigate someone. I confirmed this with Overswarm when I investigated July.

This leads me to believe that his other global win condition is not a town one. He wouldn't hint towards it this specifically, otherwise, right?

My first wincon is to die (sans modkill.) Unless I fufill my other wincon, if I make it to endgame, I lose. (DH's most recent post)

Underlined : Traitor wincon would make perfect sense "die" as in get recruited by scum fufils that, and then he has to beat his global win-con of being at a point to be unlynchable (i.e the standard mafia win-con).

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Might as well sat that wall post wasn't me, i had the time to slam scum wall post from last night

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Oh joy.

Yeah, I've got an altenate wincon: Be at L-2 two days in a row without a hammer on me. I've mentioned this before, and I don't know why seph didn't get it.

Underlined : Traitor wincon would make perfect sense "die" as in get recruited by scum fufils that, and then he has to beat his global win-con of being at a point to be unlynchable (i.e the standard mafia win-con).

What? How does "dying" mean "get recruited by scum?."

And no, the standard mafia wincon is not to be unlynchable.

And third, dying is my first INDIVIDUAL wincon, not global. Global wincons are like the town standard wincon.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Alright DH, who's scum ?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

Yes I'm 100% sure I get all win conditions. Overswarm confirmed this. I'll send him another PM to be sure.

July had to hammer someone within 48 hours of deadline. She claimed it was to be on Kary's lynch and something else, iirc.



@FML: read my mind.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Seph. Ok, cool.

what's my wincon?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

"You must save at least one person that isn’t you from being lynched. When that person is L-3, you must openly proclaim they shouldn’t be lynched and vote for a different player; as long as that person isn’t lynched that Day phase you will have completed your win condition. Do not be ambiguous."

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Should tell us NH's too if you can Seph.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

"Use your ability on someone, then have them lynched that Day."

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Hmm.

That is of questionable scumminess.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

Not really. The only wincon that I encountered thus far that is purely pro-town is mine. The rest are all not-necessarily-pro-town-but-not-really-pro-scum-either.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

That's kind of what i meant.

I also don't recall what JTB claimed he needed to do, i think it was something to do with hammering.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

NH, can you unvote so I can be the start of the wagon? My wincon requres me to begin the wagon or hammer atleast one scum this game

There we go

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah.

And third, dying is my first INDIVIDUAL wincon, not global. Global wincons are like the town standard wincon.

"Die before endgame. If you survive to endgame, you lose. MODkills do not count towards this win condition. Keep in mind you still have to beat your global win condition to win"

It specifically refers to ONE GLOBAL WIN CONDITION. You are saying that your L-2 is an INDIVIDUAL win con. Why would it refer to your global win condition when L-2 is your individual one? Also, even if it was a global one (even though I have no idea how getting to L-2 twice is global, except if indy/traitor), why would it refer to the singular "global win condition"?

Even if I don't get all win conditions, your claims don't line up.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@FML, gorfdammit can you please stop posting your train of thought.

so Seph is a legit wincon cop, or has knowledge of people's wincons. cool.


This is weird because I too am a wincon cop; that wallpost in ALL CAPS? that's me

trying to think through this now.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

hurrah.

Vote: Dark House

Kary, you made all the caps wall posts. Elaborate.

Mass claim wall posts. Mass claim roles can wait for now. bbl possibly

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Kary win-con cop Seph right now then

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

confirm it.

welp
that was a nice ninja

So, crumbs?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

The Vote of Absolute Certainty



It's time to strap our boots on,
This is a perfect day to die,
Wipe the blood out of our eyes.
In this life there's no surrender.


Ghebs fav activity as scum is to bus the **** out of his partners.
justsayin
inb4 Julys wincon really dealt with that.


All aboard the kary train

Time to Slam Scum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yLBa...eature=related

All of my writings

 

[#HBC | Kary]

dear god slow down

and don't quickvote :/

and i may elaborate in a minute- clearly i have an ability that lets me learn seph's wincon

and my wallposts are the all caps ones, and always have been

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

It specifically refers to ONE GLOBAL WIN CONDITION. You are saying that your L-2 is an INDIVIDUAL win con. Why would it refer to your global win condition when L-2 is your individual one? Also, even if it was a global one (even though I have no idea how getting to L-2 twice is global, except if indy/traitor), why would it refer to the singular "global win condition"?

Getting to L-2 Twice is my alternative INDIVIDUAL wincon, not a global one.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Well, hurrah. Raz self-hammering should confirm it.

Can't wait to see the results from the clear/condemn investigation. Throne is a very strong townread to us now, I'll explain more toMorrow.

Getting to L-2 Twice is my alternative INDIVIDUAL wincon, not a global one.
Then WHY does your "die" win condition refer to having to complete your global win condition?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Because it's referring to the fact that town has to win for me to complete that wincon.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

because he's not a jester?



@DH you received both of these individual wincons in your role pm, you weren't 'given' a wincon?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I got the two wincons and my global wincon in the same role PM.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Ok, grand.

So either Seph's lying/wrong about getting all individual wincons,

or you're lying about having more than one.

"yay"

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Kary, you claim to be a wincon cop. Mind eleborating on it?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

DH, please claim your wallposts.

Seph, what's your role name and the name of your ability?