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The Wall - Game End.... no one wins?

Inferno3044

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I did not target you. July is scum and I am positive. If july is town I will be surprised/pissed. Im still willing to be townbros with you for now if that's ok. I want to lynch her and plan from there.

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Inferno3044

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Also don't like FML. They're play today isn't very good and one line they said annoyed me. Something along the lines of them saying they will vote Soup to make sure there's not a no lynch. That sounds exactly what I said to lynch a town read of mine in MMX mafia (I was scum in that game).

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FullMetalLynch

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Also don't like FML. They're play today isn't very good and one line they said annoyed me. Something along the lines of them saying they will vote Soup to make sure there's not a no lynch. That sounds exactly what I said to lynch a town read of mine in MMX mafia (I was scum in that game).

:phone:
pretty sure Rake side didnt say this so could you quote it ?

And meh i'll take that as meaning you dont buy that i'm bussing but dont think I'm town either.

Or whats up Inferno , talk to me about your reads post possible July-town flip
 

No Hetero

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Don't break eye contact, hun. You know that's one of my pet peeves.

Guys, can we NOT have Inferno talk about his reads? We want stances from useless/dumb/scum people not ****ing obvious Town Inferno.

FML, are you Town? Why should I think you're town?
Or are you playing with my heart?
 

Inferno3044

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I think that you might be scum and said you would vote to make a lynch happen. Ill look for it when im at a computer.

If July flips town I will be mad at her. However i would take a look at Kary, how wagons on July were made, and when people jumped on.

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FullMetalLynch

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Yeah we're town

You should think we are town because even though Seph is trying to push that we are scum bussing July, you can tell he's really stretching his points , probably because he wants to believe we are scum that badly.

Beyond that i trust you to use your better judgement when reading my slot. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to convince you I am town beyond telling you that me and Orbo have been pursuing / trying to substantiate our reads and that we intend to follow them in the future and discuss them with each other to make sure they are legit.

Take that as you will.
 

July

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I don't buy this at all. I can't imagine a competent game mod saying "lynch this slot" for a wincon at all. I can only understand "Find this role/character and lynch him "
I don't actually know if OS is the one who came up with the stupid individual wincon or if there is some faction/scum role or something else that can force individual wincons onto players.

@July; is that your only personal win condition?
No it's not.

Also, @July: YOUR WINCON IS OBVIOUSLY VERY SCUMMY, how do you respond to this?
That it's not MY wincon, it's not the one that was in my role pm, it was the one that was forced upon me D1 by someone and it does not seem like it was done by OS.

mfw Kary doesn't listen to me about July lying about her wincon

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That's because it's not MY individual wincon I was originally given. Does "Predict the player in the Night phase who will be lynched during the next Day phase" sound more like the wincon you thought I was lying about when I claimed (even though I was pretty clear that wasn't my OS given wincon but whatevs)? Still not a great wincon but it is what it is. Also, I picked myself as the lynch for toDay, so I'll end up fulfilling that individual wincon even if I am lynched.
 

No Hetero

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Want an idea of where to push on a July scumflip.
Sweetie, I would LOVE an idea of where your head is at with regards to this.

Razzypoo, can you please do a brief analysis of July's latest post and if you are able to conclude anything out of it?

Also, I am 99.9% sure that Macman used his lie detector ability on one of Raz/Throne/Hando.
 

Handorin

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Eww @ july's last post. Did he post in black, or do I just see the scum in his post?

@Raz- what do you think about FML's last post? (1166) do you feel his appeal to emotion is townie or a scum last resort?

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FullMetalLynch

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I don't actually know if OS is the one who came up with the stupid individual wincon or if there is some faction/scum role or something else that can force individual wincons onto players.



No it's not.



That it's not MY wincon, it's not the one that was in my role pm, it was the one that was forced upon me D1 by someone and it does not seem like it was done by OS.



That's because it's not MY individual wincon I was originally given. Does "Predict the player in the Night phase who will be lynched during the next Day phase" sound more like the wincon you thought I was lying about when I claimed (even though I was pretty clear that wasn't my OS given wincon but whatevs)? Still not a great wincon but it is what it is. Also, I picked myself as the lynch for toDay, so I'll end up fulfilling that individual wincon even if I am lynched.
What is your OS given individual one then ? From the looks of this post you still have not revealed that.

Also, why lie about the imposed one making it sound scummier than needed ?
 

No Hetero

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Where should we be looking? What's your read on Hando?
You've now claimed both of your wincons, correct? And you have to satisfy both of them?


What does Seph have to do with your alignment? (1166)


Also known as Dark Horse
Did Kantrip claim his character?
What's your read on Hando? On WtT?


Where in the double chocolate fudge is he?


:hanenbow:
I'm gonna get so fat...
 

Inferno3044

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NH talk to me about the riddle. According to WtT's clue, the answer is hidden within this section.

There are puzzles to be solved!

There are rewards to solving them, maybe for you or maybe for your alignment or... maybe to let you win the game.

Some are easy, some are hard. But not too hard, I'd imagine, for a group such as yourself if you put your heads together.

Should no one solve the riddle, mafia and only mafia can solve through the Night. This gives them an advantage, as they can also solve during the day! But they only get the advantage if you LET them.

If you have any questions about the riddle, forget it. If you have any questions about the process of answering, feel free to PM me.
I see little things in here about how the riddles are important and that if we work together we can solve them but I can't think of much more right now.

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No Hetero

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"If you have any questions about the riddle, forget it."


"Since every riddle needs a question mark:

Riddle #1:
What's the answer to this riddle?"


These are the important and related lines IMO.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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I've sent in a guess too. I guessed "My reward".

There are rewards to solving them, maybe for you or maybe for your alignment or... maybe to let you win the game.
It's a shot in the dark and I really have no idea what either of our guesses have to do with Fibonacci, but I'd rather eliminate options from that paragraph to help town advance.

Commencing mini-catch-up.
 

No Hetero

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If you want to bring Fibonacci into it, there are five lines between the picture and the double linebreak. Including 0, 3 would be the fifth Fibonacci number. So the answer could be 5.

But as the Fibonacci numbers probably have nothing to do with it at all, I wouldn't worry about that.

I assume someone has tried "What". Someone should try "Forget it".
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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Seph, your reads are ***. Sorry bro. There's a reason they hit Macman and not you. Anyway Nabes got some good stuff on da way.
No Hetero, your reads are ***. sorry bro. There's a reason tehy hit Macman and not you.

Why do you keep looking for these goddamn pissing contests with me?

What do you think of the Soup wagon yesterDay, and can I interest you in doing a little analysis on it?
Mhm. I'll give it a second look and post my findings here.

Yeah we're town

You should think we are town because even though Seph is trying to push that we are scum bussing July, you can tell he's really stretching his points , probably because he wants to believe we are scum that badly.
Word? Show me where. I'm not letting you discredit me like that.

Also, I picked myself as the lynch for toDay, so I'll end up fulfilling that individual wincon even if I am lynched.
>July picks herself for lynch
>FML goes balls deep on her

yeah guys
though...
What is your OS given individual one then ? From the looks of this post you still have not revealed that.

Also, why lie about the imposed one making it sound scummier than needed ?
This makes me pause for a minute.

Meh. NH/WtT needs to talk to me about FML. Why is he dummy over scummy?

Be back later with actual content.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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If you want to bring Fibonacci into it, there are five lines between the picture and the double linebreak. Including 0, 3 would be the fifth Fibonacci number. So the answer could be 5.

But as the Fibonacci numbers probably have nothing to do with it at all, I wouldn't worry about that.

I assume someone has tried "What". Someone should try "Forget it".
No no no. The mod confirmed it as being a hint :glare:
We just need to figure it out.

I tried "Indeed it is" on day one, which is basically the same as "what", but I think that one was tried before too.
 

JTB

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Hi guys, sorry for not being around, been trying to work on another game. Should be caught up either today or tomorrow.

What do we know about the puzzle so far besides the Fibonacci business?

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Overswarm

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Puzzle #3!









This puzzle is simple and straightforward. You don't even have to get the optimal solution! It just has to be better than anyone else's. Whoever has the best result sent in to me by the end of the next Night phase wins.

Your goal is to place as many white and black queens onto the board as possible (alternating colors with no more than 1 more of a color) without any of the queens having the ability to attack one of the opposing color.

To add some spice, each player may add exactly ONE "blocked out" squared that will work as a wall; this will prevent queens from attacking through it. This can be signified however you like, just as long as it is obvious and isn't a queen space.

If two people tie, whoever has the first correct answer wins.

I highly suggest you upload your solutions to imgur before PMing me them. Once you send in your suggested answer, you cannot change that answer if you get a better solution.

Good luck!
 

FullMetalLynch

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Also don't like FML. They're play today isn't very good and one line they said annoyed me. Something along the lines of them saying they will vote Soup to make sure there's not a no lynch. That sounds exactly what I said to lynch a town read of mine in MMX mafia (I was scum in that game).

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Responding to other stuff but you're using Your meta to call ]i]us scum[/i]
That os just the worst kind of thing I have ever seen.
 

WatchTheThrone

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Fibonacci Number 3 was confirmed to be a hint. The PM we got said we won a hint, or two, I guess, since you have the solution to the puzzle. Paraphrased.

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July

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For everyone who keeps questioning my individual wincons, I have TWO (2) INDIVIDUAL WINCONS:

The first one is the one I received in my role pm, and it requires that I accurately predict during the Night phase the person who will be lynched during the next Day phase. THIS IS THE INDIVIDUAL WINCON OS GAVE ME AT THE START OF THE GAME. As I said, last Night I chose myself as the person most likely to be lynched toDay.

The second one I received after D1 started; I was informed that I had been given another individual wincon, and this was to lynch Kary by D3. I remember Kary going in hard on Kantrip early on D1 and thinking maybe Kary had a individual wincon to take out Kantrip like I did on Kary. There has to be some reason Kary is a target for someone, I just don't know what.
 

July

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Ohh I see now, all the quotes being marked as belonging to Kary threw me off

Where should we be looking? What's your read on Hando?
You've now claimed both of your wincons, correct? And you have to satisfy both of them?
I want to look at WTT, Kantrip, Raziek and Hando right now.

As I said earlier in the Day, WTT has shown they have bravado but they haven't used it to accomplish anything. YesterDay they talked a big game at first but they didn't push anywhere or really try to accomplish anything until toDay when they've decided to go after me.

I still think there is something off about Kantrip and his claim, and my first instinct when I saw how him and Kary interacted was that the individual wincon I received could have been from him; there's something about their interactions that really makes me think they're individual wincons/roles are tied to each other somehow, and I also don't fully believe Kantrip's claim since I don't see a role that would counterbalance it yet (I thought there would be a vig to balance his role tbh). As for Kary, I don't like his play, but my wincon points to him being either indy or town rather than mafia faction. I still kinda need him dead though for my wincon but whatevs, we'll figure that out eventually.

Raziek didn't do anything other than fencesit yesterDay, and toDay he went off on No Hetero for saying that Macman was probably killed because his reads were on track. Raziek got super defensive because he was one of Macman's scumreads, but if he's not scum he shouldn't be so concerned about No Hetero wanting to look into Macman's suspects.

Finally, Hando's jump on my wagon is for all the wrong reasons; he's trying to outguess the mod and outguess OS wrt my individual wincons instead of looking at my play. It looks like it was an easy way to just jump on my wagon with very little substantiation.

JTB has also been inactive so he's someone who needs to either post or die, becuase currently he's a straight null.

And yes, I have now claimed all my wincons, and I have to satisfy both of them.
 

July

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Completing both parts of my wincon is going to be a pain in the ***. Unless Kary is the lynch toMorrow and I predict that toNight, there's no quick and easy way for me to complete them so I've switched my focus to just scumhunting and putting my individual wincons on the backburner for now because not much good can come from them.
 

#HBC | Kary

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just hardbodied that chess puzzle
:embarrass:

to answer you, i've been skimming today and need to read it in more detail. Re-read Day 1 before it ended so don't think I'll learn any more from looking at that, really.

@July:
hmmm

your wincon to have me lynched is still broken in my opinion
or you're scum

In addition, I am surprised at the way you went about trying to get me lynched. It seems, perhaps, unlike you and not optimal to just attack me Day 1 in the way you did.
 

No Hetero

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See you soon.

Seph, how anyone can have Raz or Throne as town truly astounds me in ways I will never understand.

FML, can you vote for July on your next post? I'm aware that your vote will be stuck on her for the rest of this dayphase. I am PERFECTLY fine with that.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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I don't have Throne as town. Raz is a town-lean because his reads line up mine. Note: lean. Either way he can stay alive.

Agreed with the July vote.

I've been doing this puzzle for the past couple hours. :(
 
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