The Unity Ruleset: Discussion

[Yink]

And Mekos I really don't see how you can say we should ban standing infinites like DK on Lucas just because it makes the match boring to watch when that's also a main factor of MK and say that he shouldn't be banned, that's just being hypocritical.

I guess "play to win" just doesn't matter. If DK wants to win and has an infinite, why can't he use it? Lol.

 

[Zankoku]

yer wrong. I have already overcame that. I said I learned I just need to run. U didn't comprehend that. I brought it up as to say I felt it wasn't healthy for the community. I'm like a super saiyan. I don't let things shut me down. I get stronger from experience. I already told u I have analyzed what to do from that infinite. That was the first time I played the best Dk.

Maybe you just missed this, I dunno.

On the contrary, I feel that the stigma the community has against "playing gay" is a negative thing, rather than the necessity of players to "play gay" in certain match-ups.

 

[Mekos]

I almost beat M2K too. But neither of us did. Until you do beat a top MK (as you are clearly a top Lucas), you can't throw around those "almost beat" situations like they're relevant.

I said that to show that he isn't as broken as people say he is. Or needs to be banned. Bizket the fact u almost beat him and I think I saw that vid...congrats lol. Anyways helps to say he shouldn't be banned!. I bet if u watch yer match u can see where u slipped up and almost had him my friend!!

 

[Ghostbone]

yer wrong. I have already overcame that. I said I learned I just need to run. U didn't comprehend that. I brought it up as to say I felt it wasn't healthy for the community. I'm like a super saiyan. I don't let things shut me down. I get stronger from experience. I already told u I have analyzed what to do from that infinite. That was the first time I played the best Dk.

lol so you running away in your matches is going to hurt the community somehow?

Oh and losing is losing, almost winning is losing, it doesn't mean anything.

 

[Mekos]

yea by helping brawl become a boring video-game. That is put simply

 

[Player-1]

yer wrong. I have already overcame that. I said I learned I just need to run. U didn't comprehend that. I brought it up as to say I felt it wasn't healthy for the community. I'm like a super saiyan. I don't let things shut me down. I get stronger from experience. I already told u I have analyzed what to do from that infinite. That was the first time I played the best Dk.

saying that you overcame something doesn't matter until you actually prove it.

 

[Mekos]

Player 1 - I'm talking about the mentality of what I need to do. I overcame that. I am not just crying over it and stuck mentally. U misunderstood. I'm not talking about overcoming the opponent.

 

[nLiM8d]

And be consistent with it

 

[Ghostbone]

Player 1 - I'm talking about the mentality of what I need to do. I overcame that. I am not just crying over it and stuck mentally. U misunderstood. I'm not talking about overcoming the opponent.

But
You are crying over it >.>

 

[Mekos]

lol so you running away in your matches is going to hurt the community somehow?

Oh and losing is losing, almost winning is losing, it doesn't mean anything.

I feel yer wrong. If mk is going around completely ****** everyone then I would agree. Ban him. But matches are close or u can see where the opponent just didn't take advantage of the opportunities. Yer logic is flawed IMO

 

[NearZzz]

Singles:
3: Dojop [Meta Knight]
5: Gnep [Diddy Kong]

i added the p if that works cause i ddint want anyone getting offended but look at that dojop who lives 8 hours from anyone manage to beat the guy who won mlg dallas and took 4th at genesis....like does get better stil apply here?

 

[Tesh]

Pretty selfish to want people to save your bad character but not other bad characters. You don't know the frustration of other low tier mains that try to get past the shortcomings of their character.

Fixing your character is good for the game but fixing other characters is silly? Sounds like you are only talking about what would be more fun for Mekos, not what would be better for the game.

 

[Bizkit047]

I said that to show that he isn't as broken as people say he is. Or needs to be banned. Bizket the fact u almost beat him and I think I saw that vid...congrats lol. Anyways helps to say he shouldn't be banned!. I bet if u watch yer match u can see where u slipped up and almost had him my friend!!

It doesn't show that he shouldn't be banned at all though. And figuring out where you "slip up" works both ways, as the opponent can do that for themselves as well.

 

[Ghostbone]

I feel yer wrong. If mk is going around completely ****** everyone then I would agree. Ban him. But matches are close or u can see where the opponent just didn't take advantage of the opportunities. Yer logic is flawed IMO

No
Almost winning is still losing.

 

[Yink]

yea by helping brawl become a boring video-game. That is put simply

Was money not on the line? Dude, you're Lucas. He doesn't care if it's boring. It's a way for him to get one step closer to that prize.

You just met with some misfortune. Boring shouldn't matter when you're "playing to win".

 

[Player-1]

so you agree it's possible to beat, and shouldn't be banned because it's too OPed, but you think it should be banned because in order to win it you have to play a boring style in order to win which is a problem for competitive gaming, but then you say MK should still remain legal when he is the centralizing force in boring games? That's called being a hypocrite

 

[Mekos]

Tesh we are over that discussion and it has been close. What are u talking about. And yer quesions have already been answered.

 

[Mekos]

Lol Most top mk's I see don't even play a pure campy style. Every character camps sometimes.

I think u guys are thinking ban M2k not ban Mk lolol

 

[NearZzz]

scroll up mekos and see what i posted

 

[Ghostbone]

Lol Most top mk's I see don't even play a pure campy style. Every character camps sometimes.

I think u guys are thinking ban M2k not ban Mk lolol

Except we're not.

 

[Mekos]

Singles:
3: Dojop [Meta Knight]
5: Gnep [Diddy Kong]

i added the p if that works cause i ddint want anyone getting offended but look at that dojop who lives 8 hours from anyone manage to beat the guy who won mlg dallas and took 4th at genesis....like does get better stil apply here?

I don't know Dojo's history and I've never met him. But Dojo is a beast. There is very few players who have dubs smarts and he has that. So that shows something special about him. The fact he lives far doesn't mean anything. People practice different ways. I don't have any humans near me really to practice alot with.

 

[NearZzz]

that was singles not dubz...and he doesnt play or pactice he just showed up so where does get better apply?

 

[Tesh]

The discussion isn't really over. You want to ban something simply because its bad for YOU, but you are against banning something thats bad for everyone. Hell you probably just like the MK keeps Marth from being relevant to the metagame.

You hit a roadblock, and instead of overcoming it on your own, you want someone else to fix it for you. But you wouldn't want the same done for mains of the other 30+ characters in the game?

 

[Mekos]

That would mean Gnes needs to get better. That's all. Dojo is great and probably definitly most likely warmed up. And quickly got his fingers fresh again. Bringing all his greatness back. I don't know his whole situation to tell u. But he is mad good.

 

[NearZzz]

omg lmao you gave the exact same response tyrant gave me.

tyrant:ay well i know u gave me proof i guess that just means hes ****.

mekos: ay wel i know you gave me proof i guess that just means hes beast

 

[Player-1]

@Mekos, then where in the brawl metagame is the campy boring playstyle to watch coming out of?

 

[Mekos]

haha. Well I know he is **** cuz of his dubs playstyle. That is a gift to have good team spacing and teamwork. I try to teach it to others. That can be seen here. I saw it in that Whobo 3 GF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieMjIbatoNw&feature=related

 

[Mekos]

@Tesh - u keep talking about the infinite. We are talking about mk now. ANd not just bad for me. All standing infinites. lol I'm not a selfish guy. imma nice guy
I already said that I will just run away if it isn't changed for unity.
I also, said that is what yall complain about mk doing.

 

[NearZzz]

Hi my name is mekos i wondoubles with the best mk in the world.

i clearly am the best dubz lucas/dubz god/dubz genuis/inui prodigy in the making because i won dubz with the best mk in the world.

and thank you mekos you literally gave me the exact same answers as everyone else when i presented them with those results.

we give you guys various reasons various results data statistics and u sing us the same song...

we out.

 

[Yink]

The discussion isn't really over. You want to ban something simply because its bad for YOU, but you are against banning something thats bad for everyone. Hell you probably just like the MK keeps Marth from being relevant to the metagame.

You hit a roadblock, and instead of overcoming it on your own, you want someone else to fix it for you. But you wouldn't want the same done for mains of the other 30+ characters in the game?

IMO, this is just another "all or none" situation for infinites. Ban all of them or none of them. Why should Ness/Lucas get special treatment?

Oh right, they shouldn't

 

[Mekos]

wth? Thanks for realizing that. But don't put words in my mouth lol. I wasn't even talking about myself being good in dubs. I was talking about Dojo.
And don't compare my dubs to inui lol.

 

[DeLux]

Congrats Mekos on your 1000th post.

I will reiterate we don't plan to change the infinite rule any time soon.

 

[Ghostbone]

Banning all infinites is ridiculous also.
What are you going to tell those IC mains? That their infinite is banned because Lucas has to run away from DK to win?

 

[Tesh]

So whats your solution Mekos? Ban Snake, Olimar,ICs, wario, Diddy kong and falco so MKs won't have to play so gay to win?

@ yink, its not just infinites, chaingrabs can be super devastating to bad characters, as can things like DDDs bair gimping, or falco/olimar projectile spam.

 

[Mekos]

1000 posts wow!

 

[NearZzz]

It was sarcasm hence the inui prodigy ect..u dum im leaving

 

[Yink]

So whats your solution Mekos? Ban Snake, Olimar,ICs, wario, Diddy kong and falco so MKs won't have to play so gay to win?

@ yink, its not just infinites, chaingrabs can be super devastating to bad characters, as can things like DDDs bair gimping, or falco/olimar projectile spam.

Oh I know, I was just agreeing. I firmly believe I chose Ness and have to live with limitations. If anything, it makes me more patient and cautious.

 

[Mekos]

oh like I can tell sarcasm over the internet perfectly. That's dumb. Cuz most people came at me like that on a serious note. Sorry I couldn't read yer mind.

 

[NearZzz]

Actually it was pretty obvious unless u actually think u r an inui prodigy

 

[Mekos]

lololololol okay okay. Not at all. Good point!