The ULTIMATE Probable Playable Characters In Brawl Analysis Topic!(1 week til Brawl!)

[ChronoBound]

Fire Emblem will not be represented by 3 sword users. I just wanted to point that out.

If it is, then I'll throw Sakurai off a building WITHOUT yelling "You must recover!".

You fail at understanding the history of Fire Emblem. Most of the lords in the series use swords.

 

[Demon Kirby]

You fail at understanding the history of Fire Emblem. Most of the lords in the series use swords.

That would only stand to make sense.

Still, I can't see FE being reresented entirely by swords.

 

[Super-dude]

I didn't try to be funny.

Representing FE with 3 sword users would be like representing Zelda with 3 links (2 is enough).

i wasnt referring to the first line

 

[adumbrodeus]

That would only stand to make sense.

Still, I can't see FE being reresented entirely by swords.

Historically swords are the most-used and most versitile weapon, fullfilling almost every possible melee combat role.

Because of such wide possibilities it lends itself to a lot of completely unique character designs, hence it's prevalence.

 

[Demon Kirby]

I have nothing against swords. I do dislike seeing a series with multiple options being represented in a not-so-diverse way.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I have nothing against swords. I do dislike seeing a series with multiple options being represented in a not-so-diverse way.

As I just pointed out, swords are inherently diverse unless you use the same type of sword over and over again, which is very doubtful.

Just because they're blades with a handle doesn't make them remotely similar.

 

[Demon Kirby]

As I just pointed out, swords are inherently diverse unless you use the same type of sword over and over again, which is very doubtful.

Just because they're blades with a handle doesn't make them remotely similar.

I know that, but like I said, 3 Links. They're all different, but at the same time they are all the same.

 

[ChronoBound]

I know that, but like I said, 3 Links. They're all different, but at the same time they are all the same.

Applying that logic, Cloud, Sephiorth, and Crono are all the same and all have the same fighting style because they all use swords.

 

[IsmaR]

I know that, but like I said, 3 Links. They're all different, but at the same time they are all the same.

.....did he really use that as an argument?

 

[626key]

I do agree that there are many different things that can be done with a sword, but marth and link are somewhat simaler in the way they fought in melee, and I know sakuri could easily change it, but I'm willing to bet that there is at least one event mode events that puts two fighters in the same ring because they have swords

 

[adumbrodeus]

I know that, but like I said, 3 Links. They're all different, but at the same time they are all the same.

No, they're all completely different.


dagger=/=flamberg=/=rapier=/=falchion.

They're just completely different, "sword" is an incredibly wide weapon category and beside some minor visual similarities, they have little in common with each other.

Spears have a good deal in common, axes have a good deal in common, swords are extremely different.

 

[Demon Kirby]

Applying that logic, Cloud, Sephiorth, and Crono are all the same and all have the same fighting style because they all use swords.

Yeah . . . you misnterpreted what I said.

Hmm . . . I guess 3 sword users from FE wouldn't be as severe 3 Links, but I still would feel a bit sad if hat was what we got.

Let's end this discussion before further misinterpretation.

Edit: I know swords are different dang it.

 

[ChronoBound]

Yeah . . . you misnterpreted what I said.

Hmm . . . I guess 3 sword users from FE wouldn't be as severe 3 Links, but I still would feel a bit sad if hat was what we got.

Let's end this discussion before further misinterpretation.

Marth, Sigurd, and Ike are all the most popular lords in Japan, yet they are all blue-haired sword-users. There is a reason for that.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Applying that logic, Cloud, Sephiorth, and Crono are all the same and all have the same fighting style because they all use swords.

No, too similar, think classic DnD Theif, Cloud, and a Fencer.

 

[626key]

I say we move into ether pokemon, star fox, or wario ware

 

[adumbrodeus]

Yeah . . . you misnterpreted what I said.

Hmm . . . I guess 3 sword users from FE wouldn't be as severe 3 Links, but I still would feel a bit sad if hat was what we got.

Let's end this discussion before further misinterpretation.

Edit: I know swords are different dang it.

The point is, you don't seem to realize exactly how different.

Any two spears are quite similar, any two axes are less so but still.

Swords... some swords are similar but you end up with the degree of similarity between a whip and a quarter-staff in practical terms with swords, they're just WAY too dissimilar on average.

No reason to limit character selection based on adherence to such a wide category.

 

[Demon Kirby]

Marth, Sigurd, and Ike are all the most popular lords in Japan, yet they are all blue-haired sword-users. There is a reason for that.

I didn't know that. Thank you for pointing that out. /sarcasm off

I say we move into the topic of Lucario vs Mewtwo.

Edit: the sword is my favorite weapon. I know how different they are. A rapier is far different from a claymore.

 

[626key]

Lucario has more chance due two the facts 1: he is the 4 generation flag charecter 2: he has had a movie recently 3: mewtwo was one of the brawlers Sakuri said should be used with items, lucario wouldn't

 

[ChronoBound]

I didn't know that. Thank you for pointing that out. /sarcasm off

I say we move into the topic of Lucario vs Mewtwo.

Edit: the sword is my favorite weapon. I know how different they are. A rapier is far different from a claymore.

Lucario is basically unopposed as representative for the fourth Pokemon generation. Heck, Darkrai was just deconfirmed as being a pokeball Pokemon at the Whobby event. I would be surprised if Lucario did not show up as a playable character in Brawl.

 

[Demon Kirby]

Hmm. Come to think of it, what was Mewtwo known for other than being the "villain" of Pokemon?

 

[ChronoBound]

Hmm. Come to think of it, what was Mewtwo known for other than being the "villain" of Pokemon?

Mewtwo is still a very well-known and popular Pokemon, and was the original ultimate legendary. It would be a shame if he decided to cut Mewtwo simply because he was a poor character in Melee.

 

[Demon Kirby]

Mewtwo is still a very well-known and popular Pokemon, and was the original ultimate legendary. It would be a shame if he decided to cut Mewtwo simply because he was a poor character in Melee.

I still think Mew was the ultimate legendary . . . too bad he does nothing except drop CDs.

 

[626key]

I still think Mew was the ultimate legendary . . . too bad he does nothing except drop CDs.

he might do more this time, sakuri didn't really go into detail

 

[Rick88]

Mewtwo is still a very well-known and popular Pokemon, and was the original ultimate legendary. It would be a shame if he decided to cut Mewtwo simply because he was a poor character in Melee.

I agree, I'd still prefer Mewtwo before Lucario, but that's only because I stopped watching Pokemon after the 3rd season and stopped playing the games after Silver and Gold. Lucario wouldn't be a bad choice though.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I still think Mew was the ultimate legendary . . . too bad he does nothing except drop CDs.

Power-wise, no, mewtwo was stronger, though I think Mew was better in the competitive metagame.

Arceus is stronger then them all though power-wise, and so was Ho-oh I believe.

 

[Johnknight1]

Why argue over Mewtwo vs. Lucario? We can have 5 Pokémon reps, EASILY! After 160 million plus units sold (only topped by Mario's 200 million + units sold), it definitely deserves 5 roster spots. >_<

And Mewtwo, Ho-oh, Lugia, Rayzuaza, and Arceus are the strongest stat-wise (tied). However, Mewtwo can learn the most attacks out of all of them. Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Groudon, Kyrogue, and maybe a few more legendary Pokémon are tied for second strongest.

 

[RandomGuy42]

I'm having de-ja-vu over the topic title.

 

[ChronoBound]

I'm having de-ja-vu over the topic title.

Yeah, that was the topic title last week. The delay sent us back. Now we have to endure one more full week of "prophets: until we get to the week of leaks, which has been postponed to the fifth week in January.

 

[XACE-K]

Why argue over Mewtwo vs. Lucario? We can have 5 Pokémon reps, EASILY! After 160 million plus units sold (only topped by Mario's 200 million + units sold), it definitely deserves 5 roster spots.

Exactly. Pokemon can have 5 reps and is there a where does it say Darkrai is pokeball Pokemon?

 

[ChronoBound]

Exactly. Pokemon can have 5 reps and is there a where does it say Darkrai is pokeball Pokemon?

According to someone who attended Whobby yesterday, Darkrai was a Pokeball Pokemon. I believe its on Brawl Central.

 

[XACE-K]

There is some new info from Whobby and if anybody wants to see it click the link. http://www.brawlcentral.com/whobby_updates.php

 

[ChronoBound]

According to some Japanese review, there will be 48 playable characters in Brawl:

Can somebody translate it to see if it really does say 48 characters in Brawl?

 

[IkexMarth]

Nya is wrong! Ness appears as a background character in Onett.

Its at brawl central.

 

[ChronoBound]

Nya is wrong! Ness appears as a background character in Onett.

Its at brawl central.

What? Really? I find this hard to believe, a lot of the credible prophets said that Ness would return as a playable character.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What? Really? I find this hard to believe, a lot of the credible prophets said that Ness would return as a playable character.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c283/fallingstarlane/IMG_0869.jpg

Apparently that says it

 

[ChronoBound]

Hmmm, looks like Ness might really be deconfirmed then, along with NyaseNya, ChaosZero, and ShadowXOR (I trusted him). Ness is the true "prophet" slayer.

 

[IkexMarth]

I'm glad. 35 characters? What a joke. I belived in thealmightgoat more before he admitted he was fake.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Hmmm, looks like Ness might really be deconfirmed then, along with NyaseNya, ChaosZero, and ShadowXOR (I trusted him). Ness is the true "prophet" slayer.

It's not confirmed, apparently people are saying it's not the right translation...

 

[ChronoBound]

It's not confirmed, apparently people are saying it's not the right translation...

Ah the saga continues...

What I am more interested in though is the screenshot of that Japanese review. It supoosedly mentions that there are 48 playable characters in Brawl.

 

[Zinfandel]

It's not confirmed, apparently people are saying it's not the right translation...

Yups, and now it doesn't say anything about him not appearing in Brawl.