The Ultimate Grab Release Thread!

[WITH]

Awesome thread, but BOO INFINITES. I didn't like them when it was DDD on Bowser and I don't like them when it's Bowser on others. I can definately see chaingrabbing to the edge then tilting for KO being useful though.

 

[MrEh]

UPDATES!!!!

-Jump release Fair, Klaw and Fire Breath works on DK!
-Chaingrabs added for Diddy and Zelda!
-Jump Release Chaingrabs added for Ganondorf and Falco!
-Deathgrabs added for META KNIGHT and FALCO!!!!!!!

 

[Bowser King]

Those deathgrabs sound pretty fun. Not super useful but seeing the faces of MK and falco players after it must be pretty funny

 

[Vex Kasrani]

UPDATES!!!!

-Jump release Fair, Klaw and Fire Breath works on DK!
-Chaingrabs added for Diddy and Zelda!
-Jump Release Chaingrabs added for Ganondorf and Falco!
-Deathgrabs added for META KNIGHT and FALCO!!!!!!!

Jump release neutral b doesnt work on any characters, lol. also the idea of merging threads sounds ok, but no offense, I have like, so much more information, thats what happens when u do 10 hours of testing from scratch :D

 

[MrEh]

Jump release neutral b doesnt work on any characters, lol.

I know it doesn't combo, it's just difficult to get out of.

also the idea of merging threads sounds ok

Having all this information in one organized place helps people a lot.

but no offense, I have like, so much more information

None taken. I don't have as much time as of late to test all these things, so it's good that there's someone else testing this.

 

[Z1GMA]

I hope they make this one "sticky" !

I like it better than the other one even though you missed the arieals.

 

[DanGR]

Ok, how does this go unnoticed for so long. Is bowser that unpopular?

Also, is the infinite on Olimar completely unavoidable?

 

[chimpact]

one more reason to "not get grabbed". is there a way you can ensure a jump grab or a grounded grab? If not then how does your opponent decide if it is grounded or jumped?

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Ok, how does this go unnoticed for so long. Is bowser that unpopular?

Also, is the infinite on Olimar completely unavoidable?

What infinite?

 

[Flayl]

Ok, how does this go unnoticed for so long. Is bowser that unpopular?

Also, is the infinite on Olimar completely unavoidable?

I appealed to bowser players back in june on these forums but nobody made an effort. I couldn't do extensive research because I don't have anybody to play with offline.

In short, I guess bowser players are just plain lazy?

 

[Vex Kasrani]

I appealed to bowser players back in june on these forums but nobody made an effort. I couldn't do extensive research because I don't have anybody to play with offline.

In short, I guess bowser players are just plain lazy?

Except me? :D, Bowser is an amazing character, just very underused in tournament play.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Amazing? Not really. Good grab options doesn't necesarrily mean having a good grab game. Bowser has problems to approach a lot of opponents...

 

[Flayl]

Except me? :D, Bowser is an amazing character, just very underused in tournament play.

You never visited the forums until a few days ago...

 

[-Kagato-]

Looks like I have a whole new game to develop. I knew this existed when I tried it on Lucas a while ago, but I never really thought about it or expanded on it. This thread gives me new ideas and I thank the TC for it.

Time to do some 'splorin!

 

[brinboy789]

campachu...so true LOL

 

[Naucitos]

Awesome to know about this, everyone loves grab release shennanigans, even better to know that us yoshis are pretty much the only ones who don't have to worry about it much XD

 

[~ Gheb ~]

*sigh*

You still don't know yet, just how much use Bowser can make of this stuff!!111oneoneone

 

[Flayl]

Bowser's grab range sucks, and he can't combo his jab into a grab.

 

[GimR]

I'm pretty sure D-tilt can be shielded by every character. test it out and see.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

I'm pretty sure D-tilt can be shielded by every character. test it out and see.

Grab release dtilt? no it can't, the timing is just VERY hard.

You never visited the forums until a few days ago...

The point is I put alot of time into bowser's grab release game, and I'm still testing things out.

 

[Flayl]

The point is I put alot of time into bowser's grab release game, and I'm still testing things out.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying you're lazy, far from it, but what I said only applies to the bowser players that posted here since june. It took 3 months for someone to finally step up.

 

[brinboy789]

i tried this but it didnt work. the opponent just like...idk but not chaingrab. i grab + pummel few times till they release. then grab. no profit. am i doing something wrong? (((((

 

[Vex Kasrani]

i tried this but it didnt work. the opponent just like...idk but not chaingrab. i grab + pummel few times till they release. then grab. no profit. am i doing something wrong? (((((

Thats the point, Grab jabs, they ground escape, regrab, do more grab jabs, depending on the opponent if they air escape you can follow with a fair.

 

[Crzy]

^That's an awesome sig........





And I'm still finding it hard to get the timings down and remembering what I can do on each character. XD Then again I'm learning them by trial and error in friendlies.

 

[DanGR]

What infinite?

The OP says Bowser has a grab release infinite on Olimar.

Is it unavoidable?

 

[Vex Kasrani]

The OP says Bowser has a grab release infinite on Olimar.

Is it unavoidable?

He has no infinite on olimar, only wario.

 

[Toby.]

This is an amazing thread.

*Applause*

 

[Snail]

Just a quick note, Olimar is male. <_<

 

[GimR]

I'm glad you guys have actually tried to learn this instead of just writing it off like Overswarm(Which made everyone else write it off) in the thread I made in Tactical Discussion, 3 months back.

GOOD STUFF

PS: Bowser can do this in MELEE also! It's easier to escape though. LOL

 

[PKNintendo]

Im confused.

Jab
Bowser can jab Ness right out of a grab release. This will work 100% of the time.

Ftilt
The Ftilt works! As long as you can pull it off fast enough, Bowser should be able to punch Ness before he can recover.

Dtilt
Bowser's awesome Dtilt works too!

The Klaw
The Klaw works! Use it for damage, KOing, or even a Bowsercide attempt!

THE EFFING BOWSER BOMB!!!!!!
Poor Ness. He's cursed with the same stun that Lucas has. That pretty much means that you can do almost anything to him after a grab release, even a Bowser Bomb. Go forth and abuse it!

CHAINGRAB!!!!!!
Yes, Bowser can changrab Ness. Once again, we have Ness's huge amounts of grab release stun to thank for that. In order to do it, all you have to do is grab Ness, pummel him until he breaks out, then use your dashing grab to grab him again. Of course, if Ness does a jump break, then the chaingrab will end.




Link

Jab
Bowser can jab Link right out of a grab release. This will work 100% of the time.

Ftilt
The Ftilt works! As long as you can pull it off fast enough, Bowser should be able to punch Link before he can recover.

Dtilt
Bowser's awesome Dtilt works too!

The Klaw
The Klaw works! Use it for damage, KOing, or even a Bowsercide attempt!

THE EFFING BOWSER BOMB!!!!!!
Yup, Bowser can use the Bowser Bomb on Link as well! As long as you can use the Bomb immediately after the grab release, it should work. The timing isn't all that difficult either.

CHAINGRAB!!!!!!
Another chaingrab for Bowser! When Link breaks out, use your dashing grab to grab him again. The timing is pretty easy.


Ness and Link have near identical chain grab problems. Yet you said ''poor Ness''
and not ''poor link'' Does Ness have it worse than Link?

You even said that Ness can jump break to escape the CG, while Link cannot. So is Link really worse off than Ness or am I...

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Im confused.


You even said that Ness can jump break to escape the CG, while Link cannot. So is Link really worse off than Ness or am I...

Every character can jump escape Bowser's grab release with correct timing.